Jason Taylor ...THREAD...
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stevied
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Wow, things have really hit the fan and no wonder. I can see no reason at all to persist with Taylor. He's hampering the young players' development and impeding the potential of the squad. There is no light what so ever at the end of the tunnel and he has to go…..but is it possible?
stevied
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Ok, we all want to see the back of Taylor for the following reasons;
1\. Poor and ineffective game plans
2\. Inability to motivate players
3\. Lack of leadership
4\. Failure to bring players to account for poor performance
5\. Ludicrous team selections and use of the bench
6\. Playing favorites
7\. Lame post game addresses
8\. Failure to acknowledge and address problems with team structures
Have I forgotten anything?
Things are a complete and utter shambles after 18 months of his coaching. We definitely need a new coach but is it possible to get one that is a proper, qualified, no nonsense style leader? What will it cost us financially to punt Taylor and is it possible to lure Toovey or Cleary to the basket case that is the Wests Tigers? Surely, the club must make moves if there are no player sackings and we get pasted by Souths.
And by the way, who would you drop from the team? I'd start with two of the untouchables, Brooks and Sironen, followed by Rankin and Millone.
:deadhorse:
1\. Poor and ineffective game plans
2\. Inability to motivate players
3\. Lack of leadership
4\. Failure to bring players to account for poor performance
5\. Ludicrous team selections and use of the bench
6\. Playing favorites
7\. Lame post game addresses
8\. Failure to acknowledge and address problems with team structures
Have I forgotten anything?
Things are a complete and utter shambles after 18 months of his coaching. We definitely need a new coach but is it possible to get one that is a proper, qualified, no nonsense style leader? What will it cost us financially to punt Taylor and is it possible to lure Toovey or Cleary to the basket case that is the Wests Tigers? Surely, the club must make moves if there are no player sackings and we get pasted by Souths.
And by the way, who would you drop from the team? I'd start with two of the untouchables, Brooks and Sironen, followed by Rankin and Millone.
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Taylor has lost the players …...
Is anyone seriously surprised ?
When all hell broke loose last year with the Farah stuff, it became a coach vs Farah issue that a lot of people didn't understand the overall impact that incident would have.
Whoevers fault it was, which ever side you sat on or supported - the real issue or concern was - the way the situation was handled and managed. It was poor and exposed the coach as completely lacking the management skills needed to run a club.
The truth is, JT had lost a lot of support when he began to axe club legends that were involved with the team, coaching staff that had enormous respect from the current players and the basic manner in which he addressed players and staff.
Fast forward to the Farah incident, the line in the sand stance and then the embarrassing backflip..... Very little respect was in left, if any.
It was never said publically but the fact that players were delaying resigning was a very clear message, regardless of how much some people want to deny it or debate their worth etc
Fast forward again to the moment the ceo overrides the coach and again, we have less and less support for the coach being shown by the club, in their actions
Today, yes the players dropped the ball, showed no fight whatsoever, embarrassed themselves ..... But to see the coach at half time presenting himself to the team by starring at the floor, not knowing what to say or do.....showed everyone what some of us always knew. What could he say that the players would listen to or respond to.
Nothing
Absolutely nothing
Is anyone seriously surprised ?
When all hell broke loose last year with the Farah stuff, it became a coach vs Farah issue that a lot of people didn't understand the overall impact that incident would have.
Whoevers fault it was, which ever side you sat on or supported - the real issue or concern was - the way the situation was handled and managed. It was poor and exposed the coach as completely lacking the management skills needed to run a club.
The truth is, JT had lost a lot of support when he began to axe club legends that were involved with the team, coaching staff that had enormous respect from the current players and the basic manner in which he addressed players and staff.
Fast forward to the Farah incident, the line in the sand stance and then the embarrassing backflip..... Very little respect was in left, if any.
It was never said publically but the fact that players were delaying resigning was a very clear message, regardless of how much some people want to deny it or debate their worth etc
Fast forward again to the moment the ceo overrides the coach and again, we have less and less support for the coach being shown by the club, in their actions
Today, yes the players dropped the ball, showed no fight whatsoever, embarrassed themselves ..... But to see the coach at half time presenting himself to the team by starring at the floor, not knowing what to say or do.....showed everyone what some of us always knew. What could he say that the players would listen to or respond to.
Nothing
Absolutely nothing
I demand the pasty faced one's "HEAD ON A SILVER PLATTER"!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely the most disgraceful performance by any Weststigers Team in the 16years of this Club's existence.
Get rid of JT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark O'neill we know you read these forum's & you must rid this great Club of the z grader coach 7 all his z grader selections before it becomes even more embarrassing.
SACK HIM NOW.SACK HIM NOW,SACK HIM NOW!!!
We the fan's demand action now or you are just as bad MO!!!!!!
Absolutely the most disgraceful performance by any Weststigers Team in the 16years of this Club's existence.
Get rid of JT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark O'neill we know you read these forum's & you must rid this great Club of the z grader coach 7 all his z grader selections before it becomes even more embarrassing.
SACK HIM NOW.SACK HIM NOW,SACK HIM NOW!!!
We the fan's demand action now or you are just as bad MO!!!!!!
stevied
Well-known member
Agree with all of that!
@coopy said:
That comment is way too sensible and reasoned, Coopy. You don't seem to have any bitter vendettas against a player or coach. You don't even have the guts to blame someone for the position that we're in.
Obviously you know who to blame and who has to be sacked or dropped or flogged publicly but you've taken three sentences of space on this forum and not named them!
How are things going to improve for our team if Taylor and selectors don't get some insights into fixing the problem from forum posters like you? You've exposed the soft underbelly of this forum, Coopy. I demand magpiecol come over and sort you out before you think of producing such rubbish again!
Mighty_Tiger
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@Eddie said:
Not to mention Milone standing infront of Lawerance forna forard pass on a normal backline movement.
Rankin is also out of position and guess what we were carved up again down that side.
I don't feel sorry for Taylor, you could see the team werent motivated from kick off for a game the Raiders were always going to be pumped up for. That is Taylors role to motovate the team. At halftime seeing him sitting down hunched over looking at the ground whilst sandercock was adressing said it all for me. Taylor has lost the team and isnt pulling the strings anymore. His time is up.
@tigerap said:
I too am so disappointed in how we are playing this season, (and the one before and the one before that) :smiling_imp:
is it the players,
is it the coach,( is it that we are uncoachable) :question:
is it the players running the show, someone is not listening, surely we aren't this bad.
Yesterday I was hopeful that we would turn the corner soon, we always do well down in Canberra, but last night - that score is simply ATROCIOUS :blush: and embarrassing :blush:
We have been quite terrible in defence for about 5 years now, is that how long David Kidwell has been the "defensive" coach, anyway after this extremely poor showing SOMEONE HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE :bash
glebe_tiger
New member
Agree it starts at board level and that coaching and player changes need to be made urgently. But our hands are tied unfortunately with some selections due to cap. I'd like to punt half the team.
At the moment a win doesn't look like being in our vocabulary. I just think this team for all its faults, inexperience whatever has topped out in terms of efforts and abilities. We've capitulated against titans then lose rest up until yesterday by 8, 8, 2, 1\. Mentally we've folded and can't keep in the fight and it showed against raiders.
At the moment a win doesn't look like being in our vocabulary. I just think this team for all its faults, inexperience whatever has topped out in terms of efforts and abilities. We've capitulated against titans then lose rest up until yesterday by 8, 8, 2, 1\. Mentally we've folded and can't keep in the fight and it showed against raiders.
@tigeress said:
Tigress,you don't have to look far to see who is accountable…the overhyped,overpriced and overrated players that the club sends out to play football and represent this club...that's as far as I will look...its obvious to me that they all think they are NRL stars on big money to be there,problem is,they have to EARN the right to be called NRL stars,inept performances from players this club has supported and stuck by for very little return..
innsaneink
Well-known member
Realistically I don't think much can or will change… Possibly a few more nrl debutante... Not that that will do much imo.
Not much future at this club that I can see.
I keep reading elsewhere players tanking... Says a lot about THEM if true
Not much future at this club that I can see.
I keep reading elsewhere players tanking... Says a lot about THEM if true
1_4_chicken_chips
New member
I was willing to accept Taylor because our squad is simply not up to nrl standard but after tonight and his response he should be shown the door immediately .to say the raiders were just too big and strong tells me he has put the cue back into the rack …what will the good sides do to us ? We look like the Wests sides of the late 90 s but as bad as they were ,they always tried their guts out but were simply outclassed .
We must not sign another rookie coach .farah has to go and it's not because of his form .we need 4 big name first graders to steer these young guys around the park .malone is not a first grader and he showed tonight just how much he isn't .the Tigers losing used to pee me off big time ,but with the current squad I get over a loss very quickly because I do not expect a win .ill never lose faith in the club I follow but until we sign a fairy god father who can pay these third party agreements we will conti ie to struggle .we are so far away from the top squads and that's the problem ...
We must not sign another rookie coach .farah has to go and it's not because of his form .we need 4 big name first graders to steer these young guys around the park .malone is not a first grader and he showed tonight just how much he isn't .the Tigers losing used to pee me off big time ,but with the current squad I get over a loss very quickly because I do not expect a win .ill never lose faith in the club I follow but until we sign a fairy god father who can pay these third party agreements we will conti ie to struggle .we are so far away from the top squads and that's the problem ...
1_4_chicken_chips
New member
JT has to go ,that's simple .so does Farah and not because of his form .he simply takes up too much of the cap .replacing JT will not change much whilst we have the same squad .we need two good centres ,we have plenty of wingers to cover.two good props and two good back rowers .we can't blame out halves when the engine room cannot win the ruck .please do not sign a rookie coach .we need somebody who will attract some nrl standard players
