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@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264042) said:
@weststigerman said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264032) said:
The McIntyre news confirms why we’re interested. We’re struggling to fill roster spots and we’ll take anyone.

If I was in McIntyre ‘s position, waiting for my future to be sorted while the people doing the sorting are publicly having coffee with rejects from other clubs. I would definitely take a higher offer from a club which has purpose and success written all over its recruitment strategy. This is another player who will play out of his skin when Tigers play Titans.


Oops wrong thread
 
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264048) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264042) said:
@weststigerman said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264032) said:
The McIntyre news confirms why we’re interested. We’re struggling to fill roster spots and we’ll take anyone.

If I was in McIntyre ‘s position, waiting for my future to be sorted while the people doing the sorting are publicly having coffee with rejects from other clubs. I would definitely take a higher offer from a club which has purpose and success written all over its recruitment strategy. This is another player who will play out of his skin when Tigers play Titans.


Oops wrong thread

Doesn’t matter as all threads are the same ...
 
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264042) said:
@weststigerman said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264032) said:
The McIntyre news confirms why we’re interested. We’re struggling to fill roster spots and we’ll take anyone.

If I was in McIntyre ‘s position, waiting for my future to be sorted while the people doing the sorting are publicly having coffee with rejects from other clubs. I would definitely take a higher offer from a club which has purpose and success written all over its recruitment strategy. This is another player who will play out of his skin when Tigers play Titans.

Team culture isn't it. Play out of your skin as the club and coach hope and be rewarded with a good offer, from another club!
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263776) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263764) said:
@Russell said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263495) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263403) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263387) said:
@gallagher said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263288) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263285) said:
Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

One more time.......PASCOE DOES NOT DECIDE WHO WE SIGN!!!!!!

Cleary was given Cart Blanche by the board - it is all on the Bus Drivers head.

Farah was an oversight, not trying to cheat the cap, Pascoe and the club paid the penalty. It was Greenturd getting at us as usual, didn't go after other clubs, just us. The club has decided to keep him on because he is want they want as a CEO.

So do I - blame him for all the things he is responsible for Mate, not for things he isn't.


The last bit made little sense - but u can read between the lines.
The way i read it is if he is meeting with Players (Roberts) he is one of 3 that have a say and has the final sign off.
Cleary signings i don't buy into that the CEO still signed off otherwise he is doing nil due diligence with our cap part of one of his KPI's,

The role of CEO involves managing the entire Operation of the business including the football Department. Pascoe has overseen failure after failure after failure within the football Department and I for one won’t be supporting his involvement in the club going forward. I can only act by not going to games and spending my hard earned elsewhere until he is replaced.

I respect the opinions of his supporters but cannot see how you can be satisfied with his work.

I'm very satisfied and will be going to the games - but you'll still watch on TV right?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263635) said:
@TillLindemann said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263634) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263622) said:
@TillLindemann said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263620) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263587) said:
The image of WT can be reflected in it’s recruitment strategy. I thought we were on track with adding players like Momo and Matterson. Talking to the likes of Laurie, Burton etc. these are talented footballers who are looking for an opportunity. That’s the limitless image of expectation we should be projecting. We want to be seen as a place on the up. Not the “retirement home” or “the last chance saloon.” I just feel the image we project around our recruitment behaviour can go a long way to making the job easier. I would like us to be known as the club which offers opportunity to rising stars. Is that too much to ask?

I get what you are saying, but there are only so many Lauries and Burtons on the market, and you need to fill a squad. The Jimmy the Jet rumour mentioned a figure of 130k or something like that. It's completely unrealistic to expect someone better than Jimmy the Jet on anything like that kind of money.
We have a lot of talented youth coming through, which is great, but you have to sprinkle that with a bit of experience (and you can do worse than Tamou and Mansour) otherwise you end up like this year's Broncos.

Mansour may be past his prime, but he's still by any measure an upgrade on Robert Jennings!

I'd be happy to be like the Broncs. They will finish ahead of us next year. Their good young players have all been given a taste of the NRL and will know how hard they have to work in the off season.

I don't think repeated demoralising 50 point thrashings is a good first taste of NRL.

But we all know the Broncs will be back bigger and better next year. Will we be?

Broncos are in a lot of trouble. Their star coach signing is gone in less than one season, they have players signed to long-term deals that they can't move, they have some players dreadfully out of form, some real dopes like TPJ and some of their best players have been shopping themselves around.

Their new coach is not a first-choice selection; even Tigers passed on Kevvie Walters.

Tom Dearden is a fine young player and I know the Tigers think highly of him, Kotoni Staggs is a clear star, as is Payne Haas. But Fifita is gone and the rest of their forward pack is treading water. They don't know what to do with Milford. They lack a halves partner for Dearden and Cory Paix has not yet come on in the hooker role. They lack experience in key areas.

Maybe they will come on better in 2021 but there's no particular indicator in 2020 pointing that the Broncos will have improved in 15 weeks from now.
 
@cochise said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263687) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263681) said:
@Earl said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263678) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263655) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263629) said:
@TillLindemann said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263620) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263587) said:
The image of WT can be reflected in it’s recruitment strategy. I thought we were on track with adding players like Momo and Matterson. Talking to the likes of Laurie, Burton etc. these are talented footballers who are looking for an opportunity. That’s the limitless image of expectation we should be projecting. We want to be seen as a place on the up. Not the “retirement home” or “the last chance saloon.” I just feel the image we project around our recruitment behaviour can go a long way to making the job easier. I would like us to be known as the club which offers opportunity to rising stars. Is that too much to ask?

I get what you are saying, but there are only so many Lauries and Burtons on the market, and you need to fill a squad. The Jimmy the Jet rumour mentioned a figure of 130k or something like that. It's completely unrealistic to expect someone better than Jimmy the Jet on anything like that kind of money.
We have a lot of talented youth coming through, which is great, but you have to sprinkle that with a bit of experience (and you can do worse than Tamou and Mansour) otherwise you end up like this year's Broncos.

Mansour may be past his prime, but he's still by any measure an upgrade on Robert Jennings!


You can’t dovetail Mansour into a group including James Tamou. Tamou is a prop, captain of a gf team. He could prove the buy of the decade.

He could, but so could any new signing, I am happy to trust the process.

All the complaints to me just don't seem to reflect reality. The club to me is going after the right players. We just aren't getting the big fish like Latrell and JAC. We also don't seem to have any good signings coming up but I fail to see who we can get. Maybe we just have to see what happens next season when a lot more players are off contract.

It is my understanding from an article on here a while back, that Adam Hartigan has employed a player analysis team (or something to that effect) to look at players and assess there value, I assume that was why they didn't go more on JAC and the process has started.
Like the Moneyball movie🙂

We have employed Scoot Woodward, who was a Performance Analytics Consultant at the Storm, as our Recruitment & List Analyst who works with Adam Hartigan and provides him with data of pretty much every elite player in the country.

As far as I am aware Tigers have become very strict on what the roster "needs" and how much they are willing to pay to obtain those needs. I have seen the point made by some analysts that you should be buying for future output not historical output, i.e. track record is great but you need a specific result from every player in your roster.

Decisions are very data-driven and the committee decides, rather than an individual. Tigers keen to avoid recruitment mistakes of the past.
 
458 pages based on Tigers meeting with Jimmy Jet, about which we have no idea of the discussion or outcome. Actually the media report that "broke" the story said "Tigers unlikely to make Roberts an offer".

Yet all this energy poured out on how bad a decision it is and how incompetent everyone is. Revisit if he actually signs on.
 
@jirskyr said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264247) said:
458 pages based on Tigers meeting with Jimmy Jet, about which we have no idea of the discussion or outcome. Actually the media report that "broke" the story said "Tigers unlikely to make Roberts an offer".

Yet all this energy poured out on how bad a decision it is and how incompetent everyone is. Revisit if he actually signs on.

458 pages or posts? lol
 
@jirskyr said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264247) said:
458 pages based on Tigers meeting with Jimmy Jet, about which we have no idea of the discussion or outcome. Actually the media report that "broke" the story said "Tigers unlikely to make Roberts an offer".

Yet all this energy poured out on how bad a decision it is and how incompetent everyone is. Revisit if he actually signs on.

Hair
 
@jirskyr said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264245) said:
@cochise said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263687) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263681) said:
@Earl said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263678) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263655) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263629) said:
@TillLindemann said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263620) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263587) said:
The image of WT can be reflected in it’s recruitment strategy. I thought we were on track with adding players like Momo and Matterson. Talking to the likes of Laurie, Burton etc. these are talented footballers who are looking for an opportunity. That’s the limitless image of expectation we should be projecting. We want to be seen as a place on the up. Not the “retirement home” or “the last chance saloon.” I just feel the image we project around our recruitment behaviour can go a long way to making the job easier. I would like us to be known as the club which offers opportunity to rising stars. Is that too much to ask?

I get what you are saying, but there are only so many Lauries and Burtons on the market, and you need to fill a squad. The Jimmy the Jet rumour mentioned a figure of 130k or something like that. It's completely unrealistic to expect someone better than Jimmy the Jet on anything like that kind of money.
We have a lot of talented youth coming through, which is great, but you have to sprinkle that with a bit of experience (and you can do worse than Tamou and Mansour) otherwise you end up like this year's Broncos.

Mansour may be past his prime, but he's still by any measure an upgrade on Robert Jennings!


You can’t dovetail Mansour into a group including James Tamou. Tamou is a prop, captain of a gf team. He could prove the buy of the decade.

He could, but so could any new signing, I am happy to trust the process.

All the complaints to me just don't seem to reflect reality. The club to me is going after the right players. We just aren't getting the big fish like Latrell and JAC. We also don't seem to have any good signings coming up but I fail to see who we can get. Maybe we just have to see what happens next season when a lot more players are off contract.

It is my understanding from an article on here a while back, that Adam Hartigan has employed a player analysis team (or something to that effect) to look at players and assess there value, I assume that was why they didn't go more on JAC and the process has started.
Like the Moneyball movie🙂

We have employed Scoot Woodward, who was a Performance Analytics Consultant at the Storm, as our Recruitment & List Analyst who works with Adam Hartigan and provides him with data of pretty much every elite player in the country.

As far as I am aware Tigers have become very strict on what the roster "needs" and how much they are willing to pay to obtain those needs. I have seen the point made by some analysts that you should be buying for future output not historical output, i.e. track record is great but you need a specific result from every player in your roster.

Decisions are very data-driven and the committee decides, rather than an individual. Tigers keen to avoid recruitment mistakes of the past.

that's all well and good, but it doesn't factor in the human element of the sport
 
@cochise said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264249) said:
@jirskyr said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264247) said:
458 pages based on Tigers meeting with Jimmy Jet, about which we have no idea of the discussion or outcome. Actually the media report that "broke" the story said "Tigers unlikely to make Roberts an offer".

Yet all this energy poured out on how bad a decision it is and how incompetent everyone is. Revisit if he actually signs on.

458 pages or posts? lol

Posts. It will be 458 pages eventually.
 
@OzLuke said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264254) said:
@jirskyr said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264245) said:
@cochise said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263687) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263681) said:
@Earl said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263678) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263655) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263629) said:
@TillLindemann said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263620) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263587) said:
The image of WT can be reflected in it’s recruitment strategy. I thought we were on track with adding players like Momo and Matterson. Talking to the likes of Laurie, Burton etc. these are talented footballers who are looking for an opportunity. That’s the limitless image of expectation we should be projecting. We want to be seen as a place on the up. Not the “retirement home” or “the last chance saloon.” I just feel the image we project around our recruitment behaviour can go a long way to making the job easier. I would like us to be known as the club which offers opportunity to rising stars. Is that too much to ask?

I get what you are saying, but there are only so many Lauries and Burtons on the market, and you need to fill a squad. The Jimmy the Jet rumour mentioned a figure of 130k or something like that. It's completely unrealistic to expect someone better than Jimmy the Jet on anything like that kind of money.
We have a lot of talented youth coming through, which is great, but you have to sprinkle that with a bit of experience (and you can do worse than Tamou and Mansour) otherwise you end up like this year's Broncos.

Mansour may be past his prime, but he's still by any measure an upgrade on Robert Jennings!


You can’t dovetail Mansour into a group including James Tamou. Tamou is a prop, captain of a gf team. He could prove the buy of the decade.

He could, but so could any new signing, I am happy to trust the process.

All the complaints to me just don't seem to reflect reality. The club to me is going after the right players. We just aren't getting the big fish like Latrell and JAC. We also don't seem to have any good signings coming up but I fail to see who we can get. Maybe we just have to see what happens next season when a lot more players are off contract.

It is my understanding from an article on here a while back, that Adam Hartigan has employed a player analysis team (or something to that effect) to look at players and assess there value, I assume that was why they didn't go more on JAC and the process has started.
Like the Moneyball movie🙂

We have employed Scoot Woodward, who was a Performance Analytics Consultant at the Storm, as our Recruitment & List Analyst who works with Adam Hartigan and provides him with data of pretty much every elite player in the country.

As far as I am aware Tigers have become very strict on what the roster "needs" and how much they are willing to pay to obtain those needs. I have seen the point made by some analysts that you should be buying for future output not historical output, i.e. track record is great but you need a specific result from every player in your roster.

Decisions are very data-driven and the committee decides, rather than an individual. Tigers keen to avoid recruitment mistakes of the past.

that's all well and good, but it doesn't factor in the human element of the sport

Actually it does. You attempt to quantify as many elements as you can, assign weightings to the importance of each element.

Because there is a human element in 100% of human creations - sport, politics, economics, health, entertainment, gambling... and they all have to attempt to use data to drive decision-making.
 
@OzLuke said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264254) said:
@jirskyr said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264245) said:
@cochise said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263687) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263681) said:
@Earl said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263678) said:
@TigerWest said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263655) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263629) said:
@TillLindemann said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263620) said:
@twentyforty said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263587) said:
The image of WT can be reflected in it’s recruitment strategy. I thought we were on track with adding players like Momo and Matterson. Talking to the likes of Laurie, Burton etc. these are talented footballers who are looking for an opportunity. That’s the limitless image of expectation we should be projecting. We want to be seen as a place on the up. Not the “retirement home” or “the last chance saloon.” I just feel the image we project around our recruitment behaviour can go a long way to making the job easier. I would like us to be known as the club which offers opportunity to rising stars. Is that too much to ask?

I get what you are saying, but there are only so many Lauries and Burtons on the market, and you need to fill a squad. The Jimmy the Jet rumour mentioned a figure of 130k or something like that. It's completely unrealistic to expect someone better than Jimmy the Jet on anything like that kind of money.
We have a lot of talented youth coming through, which is great, but you have to sprinkle that with a bit of experience (and you can do worse than Tamou and Mansour) otherwise you end up like this year's Broncos.

Mansour may be past his prime, but he's still by any measure an upgrade on Robert Jennings!


You can’t dovetail Mansour into a group including James Tamou. Tamou is a prop, captain of a gf team. He could prove the buy of the decade.

He could, but so could any new signing, I am happy to trust the process.

All the complaints to me just don't seem to reflect reality. The club to me is going after the right players. We just aren't getting the big fish like Latrell and JAC. We also don't seem to have any good signings coming up but I fail to see who we can get. Maybe we just have to see what happens next season when a lot more players are off contract.

It is my understanding from an article on here a while back, that Adam Hartigan has employed a player analysis team (or something to that effect) to look at players and assess there value, I assume that was why they didn't go more on JAC and the process has started.
Like the Moneyball movie🙂

We have employed Scoot Woodward, who was a Performance Analytics Consultant at the Storm, as our Recruitment & List Analyst who works with Adam Hartigan and provides him with data of pretty much every elite player in the country.

As far as I am aware Tigers have become very strict on what the roster "needs" and how much they are willing to pay to obtain those needs. I have seen the point made by some analysts that you should be buying for future output not historical output, i.e. track record is great but you need a specific result from every player in your roster.

Decisions are very data-driven and the committee decides, rather than an individual. Tigers keen to avoid recruitment mistakes of the past.

that's all well and good, but it doesn't factor in the human element of the sport

The human elements are important too, the data is really used as a starting point to then allow you to look at the players more closely to see if those other aspects you are looking for are there as well.
 
@Telltails said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263942) said:
It's a last chance for Roberts. The contract would come with clauses that would allow for instant dismissal. The risk is low if the deal is cheap and the contract has get outs. Then it is all up to Roberts.

I agree Telltails. If the contract is done correctly, in the club's favour, then this can be win win for us and Roberts. I'm sure we will not be paying overs on a long term contract. Low risk - I would take him on.
 
@Russell said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264180) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263776) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263764) said:
@Russell said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263495) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263403) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263387) said:
@gallagher said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263288) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263285) said:
Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

One more time.......PASCOE DOES NOT DECIDE WHO WE SIGN!!!!!!

Cleary was given Cart Blanche by the board - it is all on the Bus Drivers head.

Farah was an oversight, not trying to cheat the cap, Pascoe and the club paid the penalty. It was Greenturd getting at us as usual, didn't go after other clubs, just us. The club has decided to keep him on because he is want they want as a CEO.

So do I - blame him for all the things he is responsible for Mate, not for things he isn't.


The last bit made little sense - but u can read between the lines.
The way i read it is if he is meeting with Players (Roberts) he is one of 3 that have a say and has the final sign off.
Cleary signings i don't buy into that the CEO still signed off otherwise he is doing nil due diligence with our cap part of one of his KPI's,

The role of CEO involves managing the entire Operation of the business including the football Department. Pascoe has overseen failure after failure after failure within the football Department and I for one won’t be supporting his involvement in the club going forward. I can only act by not going to games and spending my hard earned elsewhere until he is replaced.

I respect the opinions of his supporters but cannot see how you can be satisfied with his work.

I'm very satisfied and will be going to the games - but you'll still watch on TV right?

Hoping Pascoe wakes up one morning soon and realises his resignation would be appropriate. That would take that decision out of my hands.

Look what Mal is getting done at Titans. We need a Mal, not Barney Gumble in a suit.
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264270) said:
@Russell said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1264180) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263776) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263764) said:
@Russell said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263495) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263403) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263387) said:
@gallagher said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263288) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263285) said:
Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

One more time.......PASCOE DOES NOT DECIDE WHO WE SIGN!!!!!!

Cleary was given Cart Blanche by the board - it is all on the Bus Drivers head.

Farah was an oversight, not trying to cheat the cap, Pascoe and the club paid the penalty. It was Greenturd getting at us as usual, didn't go after other clubs, just us. The club has decided to keep him on because he is want they want as a CEO.

So do I - blame him for all the things he is responsible for Mate, not for things he isn't.


The last bit made little sense - but u can read between the lines.
The way i read it is if he is meeting with Players (Roberts) he is one of 3 that have a say and has the final sign off.
Cleary signings i don't buy into that the CEO still signed off otherwise he is doing nil due diligence with our cap part of one of his KPI's,

The role of CEO involves managing the entire Operation of the business including the football Department. Pascoe has overseen failure after failure after failure within the football Department and I for one won’t be supporting his involvement in the club going forward. I can only act by not going to games and spending my hard earned elsewhere until he is replaced.

I respect the opinions of his supporters but cannot see how you can be satisfied with his work.

I'm very satisfied and will be going to the games - but you'll still watch on TV right?

Hoping Pascoe wakes up one morning soon and realises his resignation would be appropriate. That would take that decision out of my hands.

Look what Mal is getting done at Titans. We need a Mal, not Barney Gumble in a suit.

‘Mal’ is lucky he can put two sentences together. He rides on reputation only.
 
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@gallagher said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263288) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Jimmy the jet??](/post/1263285) said:
Gee I’m glad our coaching staff don’t take much notice of what some rocket scientist on here come up with.
If I was coach and had some young players with nothing more than potential on the roster (like we have) and players such as Roberts and Mansour are available on the cheap than I would definitely take a risk and sign them.
Yes 2 year max, and let’s face it if they can’t handle it they are both only one breakdown away from medical retirement so very low risk.
These Guys are first grade ready and alternative option to fill our roster with large % of young & untried at first grade level players is fine but don’t expect any great team improvement short term.

You want to buy blokes you know are one injury away from retirement? One that had been shown the door at every club he's been at?
Low ceiling mate

To be fair, every player in the league could be one injury away from retirement
Tuiaki and Dwyer both great players and young but retired due to injury
It can happen to anyone
But signing a player who has had repetitive injuries to the same area such as continually tearing calf muscles or chronic shoulder injuries is a different story
Nether Roberts or Mansour fall into this category
The issue with Roberts is wether he has his mind in the game or elsewhere
That is something that the club MUST consider very carefully
If they sign Roberts and he lets us down of the field, then heads in the front office must roll
They need to make dam sure he is ready for football
Why doesn’t the club call Bennett for his opinion on signing Roberts
Its quite interesting if you think about it
Does Bennett put a good word in for him, and by doing so could disprove the reason for a souths release
Or does he say stay away because his head is not in it


So where has the heads rolled when we signed the following,
Mybe, Reynolds, Packer???? (Admin Wise)
Pascoe has been here since 2015 and looking like has learned nothing when it comes to recruiting.

All these players above were signed on these $ on his watch???
Then he cost us $675k Salary cap over 2 years with the Robbie Farah ambassador role???? The issue is at the top if we sign these type of players.

**Pascoe Signing story.**

It had taken the Tigers three months to find their man, however club chair Marina Go described Pascoe as the best candidate for the job.

"Justin's experience both here in Australia and overseas across a number of positions means that he brings a unique set of skills to Wests Tigers," she said.

"And we look forward to him joining the club and working with us to achieve the lofty goals set out in our strategic plan.

"The appointment of Justin is another step that the club has made towards building a winning culture that is focused on performance outcomes.

"We are committed to building a successful club that will compete for premierships."

Appointment in 2015, how have we fared.....?????

One more time.......PASCOE DOES NOT DECIDE WHO WE SIGN!!!!!!

Cleary was given Cart Blanche by the board - it is all on the Bus Drivers head.

Farah was an oversight, not trying to cheat the cap, Pascoe and the club paid the penalty. It was Greenturd getting at us as usual, didn't go after other clubs, just us. The club has decided to keep him on because he is want they want as a CEO.

So do I - blame him for all the things he is responsible for Mate, not for things he isn't.


The last bit made little sense - but u can read between the lines.
The way i read it is if he is meeting with Players (Roberts) he is one of 3 that have a say and has the final sign off.
Cleary signings i don't buy into that the CEO still signed off otherwise he is doing nil due diligence with our cap part of one of his KPI's,

The role of CEO involves managing the entire Operation of the business including the football Department. Pascoe has overseen failure after failure after failure within the football Department and I for one won’t be supporting his involvement in the club going forward. I can only act by not going to games and spending my hard earned elsewhere until he is replaced.

I respect the opinions of his supporters but cannot see how you can be satisfied with his work.

I'm very satisfied and will be going to the games - but you'll still watch on TV right?

Hoping Pascoe wakes up one morning soon and realises his resignation would be appropriate. That would take that decision out of my hands.

Look what Mal is getting done at Titans. We need a Mal, not Barney Gumble in a suit.

‘Mal’ is lucky he can put two sentences together. He rides on reputation only.

Haha being a rugby league immortal gets you a reputation and an aura and a whole lot of respect. - And the ability to attract rugby league stars. - All things WT leaders have not one bit of at the moment.
 
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