Joe Ofahengaue #240

[hodgo]

People are crazy we literally gots at least 100000 for a player we wanted gone thats a win.

 

[2041]

We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved.

I genuinely don't understand why people think this. The Tigers said they weren't going to just release Aloiai without a replacement. Such a replacement became available, and they were able to use the cash they were going to spend on Aloiai to secure him.

Pick an option:
A) Stick Aloiai in reserves and don't replace him on the first grade roster, to make a point that we won't be pushed around.
B) Stick Aloiai in reserves and sign another prop, using money that could have been used to strengthen the squad elsewhere.
C) Decline to release Aloiai until a suitable replacement can be found, find one, sign him and then release Aloiai to free up cap space for said signing - thus making a like-for-like swap.

You're totally welcome to believe Ofahengaue isn't a good replacement for Aloiai. You might be right. But if the club thinks he is, using Aloiai's money to get him is clearly the best outcome for the 2021 roster.

 

[boonboon]

@POM - If we get Laurie whats the plan for Mbye. He might be on too much money but he has 2 years left and def is first grade quality ? Could we see him at 14 ?

 

[AJ1]

Can’t disclose the amount but is 6 figures.
Now the plan is to throw part of that at Panthers in a bid to release Laurie.
Laurie is the next priority so we can have a full off season with future spin.
Musgrove also offered new 2 year deal.

Now that's some smart decision making! Nobody saw that twist.

I did
https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31671/joe-ofahengaue-next/335?_=1606632689357

 

[avocadoontoast]

Can’t disclose the amount but is 6 figures.
Now the plan is to throw part of that at Panthers in a bid to release Laurie.
Laurie is the next priority so we can have a full off season with future spin.
Musgrove also offered new 2 year deal.

Now that's some smart decision making! Nobody saw that twist.

I did
https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31671/joe-ofahengaue-next/335?_=1606632689357

Big ⭐️ For you

 

[OzLuke]

Can’t disclose the amount but is 6 figures.
Now the plan is to throw part of that at Panthers in a bid to release Laurie.
Laurie is the next priority so we can have a full off season with future spin.
Musgrove also offered new 2 year deal.

Thanks Pom. Happy enough with that

be a fantastic off season if we re-sign musgrove and add Laurie with cash we never had....
that would mean we've added
Tamou
Roberts
Joe O
Laurie

Doesn't look like weak management to me....looks like astute business while improving our club....

 

[AJ1]

Can’t disclose the amount but is 6 figures.
Now the plan is to throw part of that at Panthers in a bid to release Laurie.
Laurie is the next priority so we can have a full off season with future spin.
Musgrove also offered new 2 year deal.

Now that's some smart decision making! Nobody saw that twist.

I did
https://weststigersforum.com/topic/31671/joe-ofahengaue-next/335?_=1606632689357

Big ⭐️ For you

Not blowing my trumpet, it seemed the logical move for recruitment to make. Laurie in 2021 is more important to the club than forcing a swap between Sirro and Garner

 

[JD Tiger]

We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved.

I genuinely don't understand why people think this. The Tigers said they weren't going to just release Aloiai without a replacement. Such a replacement became available, and they were able to use the cash they were going to spend on Aloiai to secure him.

Pick an option:
A) Stick Aloiai in reserves and don't replace him on the first grade roster, to make a point that we won't be pushed around.
B) Stick Aloiai in reserves and sign another prop, using money that could have been used to strengthen the squad elsewhere.
C) Decline to release Aloiai until a suitable replacement can be found, find one, sign him and then release Aloiai to free up cap space for said signing - thus making a like-for-like swap.

You're totally welcome to believe Ofahengaue isn't a good replacement for Aloiai. You might be right. But if the club thinks he is, using Aloiai's money to get him is clearly the best outcome for the 2021 roster.

Joe O is not a replacement for Aloiai. There was plenty of room and funds for both. I don't watch Broncos except for when we play them, so I don't know much about our new player. I'm hoping for good things though.

Gaining Joe and losing Josh are two unrelated events.

The problem here is we said we would not release Josh A unless we received a financial advantage. That was a very public statement. And now WT have said we received a payment for Josh A (good to hear) but we're not disclosing how much, WT just wants us to trust them. Maybe it was a high enough amount, and really if the figure was publicised, only WT are in a position to adequately judge whether the figure meets their criteria or not for it being a 'good enough' amount.

It is just very unfortunate that there was no deterrent for players stitching us up again. And a lot of us said this last time with Matterson. So who's next? Nofa? Twal? Mikaele? Talau? Liddle? I'm guessing it's more than one next time. Wonder how that will go down.

 

[clontarfkid]

We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved.

I genuinely don't understand why people think this. The Tigers said they weren't going to just release Aloiai without a replacement. Such a replacement became available, and they were able to use the cash they were going to spend on Aloiai to secure him.

Pick an option:
A) Stick Aloiai in reserves and don't replace him on the first grade roster, to make a point that we won't be pushed around.
B) Stick Aloiai in reserves and sign another prop, using money that could have been used to strengthen the squad elsewhere.
C) Decline to release Aloiai until a suitable replacement can be found, find one, sign him and then release Aloiai to free up cap space for said signing - thus making a like-for-like swap.

You're totally welcome to believe Ofahengaue isn't a good replacement for Aloiai. You might be right. But if the club thinks he is, using Aloiai's money to get him is clearly the best outcome for the 2021 roster.

Joe O is not a replacement for Aloiai. There was plenty of room and funds for both. I don't watch Broncos except for when we play them, so I don't know much about our new player. I'm hoping for good things though.

Gaining Joe and losing Josh are two unrelated events.

The problem here is we said we would not release Josh A unless we received a financial advantage. That was a very public statement. And now WT have said we received a payment for Josh A (good to hear) but we're not disclosing how much, WT just wants us to trust them. Maybe it was a high enough amount, and really if the figure was publicised, only WT are in a position to adequately judge whether the figure meets their criteria or not for it being a 'good enough' amount.

It is just very unfortunate that there was no deterrent for players stitching us up again. And a lot of us said this last time with Matterson. So who's next? Nofa? Twal? Mikaele? Talau? Liddle? I'm guessing it's more than one next time. Wonder how that will go down.

That is so true..were now a serial a soft touch whomever we improve who decides to bail mid contract...oh its ok..we'll find someone else to replace you...go rite ahead.
And compensation..well,thats a secret
Not the way to run a business

 

[mctiger]

We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved.

I genuinely don't understand why people think this. The Tigers said they weren't going to just release Aloiai without a replacement. Such a replacement became available, and they were able to use the cash they were going to spend on Aloiai to secure him.

Pick an option:
A) Stick Aloiai in reserves and don't replace him on the first grade roster, to make a point that we won't be pushed around.
B) Stick Aloiai in reserves and sign another prop, using money that could have been used to strengthen the squad elsewhere.
C) Decline to release Aloiai until a suitable replacement can be found, find one, sign him and then release Aloiai to free up cap space for said signing - thus making a like-for-like swap.

You're totally welcome to believe Ofahengaue isn't a good replacement for Aloiai. You might be right. But if the club thinks he is, using Aloiai's money to get him is clearly the best outcome for the 2021 roster.

Joe O is not a replacement for Aloiai. There was plenty of room and funds for both. I don't watch Broncos except for when we play them, so I don't know much about our new player. I'm hoping for good things though.

Gaining Joe and losing Josh are two unrelated events.

The problem here is we said we would not release Josh A unless we received a financial advantage. That was a very public statement. And now WT have said we received a payment for Josh A (good to hear) but we're not disclosing how much, WT just wants us to trust them. Maybe it was a high enough amount, and really if the figure was publicised, only WT are in a position to adequately judge whether the figure meets their criteria or not for it being a 'good enough' amount.

It is just very unfortunate that there was no deterrent for players stitching us up again. And a lot of us said this last time with Matterson. So who's next? Nofa? Twal? Mikaele? Talau? Liddle? I'm guessing it's more than one next time. Wonder how that will go down.

That is so true..were now a serial a soft touch whomever we improve who decides to bail mid contract...oh its ok..we'll find someone else to replace you...go rite ahead.
And compensation..well,thats a secret
Not the way to run a business

We had a disgruntled employee that we “sold” to another club and we recruited arguably a better more experienced player in return that comes on board knowing what is expected. I think it’s exactly the way to do business in this instance....

 

[BAGNF05]

Can’t disclose the amount but is 6 figures.
Now the plan is to throw part of that at Panthers in a bid to release Laurie.
Laurie is the next priority so we can have a full off season with future spin.
Musgrove also offered new 2 year deal.

Thank you, I think the fact WT aren't disclosing the amount we got from manly is a big mistake. It makes us look weak, because it looks like we aren't announcing how much we got from Manly because if we announced it everyone would know we were weak. We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved. We even tried to stand tough, Leo coming out and talking tough, and then in less than a week it's all hush hush sort it out behind closed doors.

Lesson we hopefully learned here;
1. Leo needs to not say things in public and then go back on them. He should NOT have said that rubbish about being tough on Aloiai and the comment about mowing lawns and painting sheds. Now he looks like a liar.

Lessons we did not learn here;
1. Letting Aloiai go for "x" amount of money will NOT deter a player from trying it again in the future at our club. It was a poor effort, there is absolutely no deterrent to prevent a player doing it again in the future. You can pretty much guarantee they will within the next 12 months. Disappointed we are still soft.

The irony is that we were screwed over by Aloiai the scummy and Manly, and the pittance we did get now we will try to use legitimately to get our man early, which may or may not work.

Nice guys finish last. Or ninth. Or this year 11th.

Laurie arriving in 21’, Just another thing to get our hopes up about only for us to fail. WT for life. ?

 

[Tiger5150]

We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved.

I genuinely don't understand why people think this. The Tigers said they weren't going to just release Aloiai without a replacement. Such a replacement became available, and they were able to use the cash they were going to spend on Aloiai to secure him.

Pick an option:
A) Stick Aloiai in reserves and don't replace him on the first grade roster, to make a point that we won't be pushed around.
B) Stick Aloiai in reserves and sign another prop, using money that could have been used to strengthen the squad elsewhere.
C) Decline to release Aloiai until a suitable replacement can be found, find one, sign him and then release Aloiai to free up cap space for said signing - thus making a like-for-like swap.

You're totally welcome to believe Ofahengaue isn't a good replacement for Aloiai. You might be right. But if the club thinks he is, using Aloiai's money to get him is clearly the best outcome for the 2021 roster.

Joe O is not a replacement for Aloiai. There was plenty of room and funds for both. I don't watch Broncos except for when we play them, so I don't know much about our new player. I'm hoping for good things though.

Gaining Joe and losing Josh are two unrelated events.

The problem here is we said we would not release Josh A unless we received a financial advantage. That was a very public statement. And now WT have said we received a payment for Josh A (good to hear) but we're not disclosing how much, WT just wants us to trust them. Maybe it was a high enough amount, and really if the figure was publicised, only WT are in a position to adequately judge whether the figure meets their criteria or not for it being a 'good enough' amount.

It is just very unfortunate that there was no deterrent for players stitching us up again. And a lot of us said this last time with Matterson. So who's next? Nofa? Twal? Mikaele? Talau? Liddle? I'm guessing it's more than one next time. Wonder how that will go down.

Seriously all the *****"WAH WAH WAH we want to know how much"***** rubbish so self centred and ridiculous. There are MANY commercial reasons not to disclose even not considering the obvious contractual ones. Maybe Manly dont want it disclosed or as POM alluded to earlier, if we are using that money as an enticement for Penrith to let Laurie go early, why the hell would you let them know how much we got? Would totally destroy any negotiations.

 

[BAGNF05]

Undisclosed 6 figure amount = $100, 000.00 anyone else thinking the same?

 

[TigerWest]

Undisclosed 6 figure amount = $100, 000.00 anyone else thinking the same?

Well that has to be the minimum

 

[BAGNF05]

Undisclosed 6 figure amount = $100, 000.00 anyone else thinking the same?

Well that has to be the minimum

Considering manly are paying overs for JA I’d assume it’s the maximum too

 

[cochise]

Undisclosed 6 figure amount = $100, 000.00 anyone else thinking the same?

Well that has to be the minimum

Considering manly are paying overs for JA I’d assume it’s the maximum too

They were dumb to pay that much.

 

[JD Tiger]

We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved.

I genuinely don't understand why people think this. The Tigers said they weren't going to just release Aloiai without a replacement. Such a replacement became available, and they were able to use the cash they were going to spend on Aloiai to secure him.

Pick an option:
A) Stick Aloiai in reserves and don't replace him on the first grade roster, to make a point that we won't be pushed around.
B) Stick Aloiai in reserves and sign another prop, using money that could have been used to strengthen the squad elsewhere.
C) Decline to release Aloiai until a suitable replacement can be found, find one, sign him and then release Aloiai to free up cap space for said signing - thus making a like-for-like swap.

You're totally welcome to believe Ofahengaue isn't a good replacement for Aloiai. You might be right. But if the club thinks he is, using Aloiai's money to get him is clearly the best outcome for the 2021 roster.

Joe O is not a replacement for Aloiai. There was plenty of room and funds for both. I don't watch Broncos except for when we play them, so I don't know much about our new player. I'm hoping for good things though.

Gaining Joe and losing Josh are two unrelated events.

The problem here is we said we would not release Josh A unless we received a financial advantage. That was a very public statement. And now WT have said we received a payment for Josh A (good to hear) but we're not disclosing how much, WT just wants us to trust them. Maybe it was a high enough amount, and really if the figure was publicised, only WT are in a position to adequately judge whether the figure meets their criteria or not for it being a 'good enough' amount.

It is just very unfortunate that there was no deterrent for players stitching us up again. And a lot of us said this last time with Matterson. So who's next? Nofa? Twal? Mikaele? Talau? Liddle? I'm guessing it's more than one next time. Wonder how that will go down.


Seriously all the *****"WAH WAH WAH we want to know how much"***** rubbish so self centred and ridiculous. There are MANY commercial reasons not to disclose even not considering the obvious contractual ones. Maybe Manly dont want it disclosed or as POM alluded to earlier, if we are using that money as an enticement for Penrith to let Laurie go early, why the hell would you let them know how much we got? Would totally destroy any negotiations.

I am pretty fed up with how people read something and interpret it how they want. I didn't say I want to know how much, I never did. I even said, only WT could judge on whatever the amount was as to it's worth.

I have said on here repeatedly that this all about making a stand to prevent players trying it on us in the future. We even had some players for crying out loud apparently backing Josh A's comments on social media, that's certainly not a good sign for our future.

I'll be clear, I don't care how much we received in compensation, I don't want to know. It was all about trying to discourage players from trying us again in the future, and in that we failed. Maybe we'll do better next time, because I guarantee you there'll be a next time now.

 

[Rusty]

Undisclosed 6 figure amount = $100, 000.00 anyone else thinking the same?

Give $25 grand to pennies panthers let's say a "settlement agreement" and call it a day. Hello Mr Laurie...

 

[THE_POM]

Can’t disclose the amount but is 6 figures.
Now the plan is to throw part of that at Panthers in a bid to release Laurie.
Laurie is the next priority so we can have a full off season with future spin.
Musgrove also offered new 2 year deal.

Thank you, I think the fact WT aren't disclosing the amount we got from manly is a big mistake. It makes us look weak, because it looks like we aren't announcing how much we got from Manly because if we announced it everyone would know we were weak. We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved. We even tried to stand tough, Leo coming out and talking tough, and then in less than a week it's all hush hush sort it out behind closed doors.

Lesson we hopefully learned here;
1. Leo needs to not say things in public and then go back on them. He should NOT have said that rubbish about being tough on Aloiai and the comment about mowing lawns and painting sheds. Now he looks like a liar.

Lessons we did not learn here;
1. Letting Aloiai go for "x" amount of money will NOT deter a player from trying it again in the future at our club. It was a poor effort, there is absolutely no deterrent to prevent a player doing it again in the future. You can pretty much guarantee they will within the next 12 months. Disappointed we are still soft.

The irony is that we were screwed over by Aloiai the scummy and Manly, and the pittance we did get now we will try to use legitimately to get our man early, which may or may not work.

Nice guys finish last. Or ninth. Or this year 11th.

Part of the legal agreement with Manly is the fact it isn’t “officially” disclosed which is a normal condition. Wouldn’t be surprised it comes out in the media soonish ?

 

[TigerWest]

Can’t disclose the amount but is 6 figures.
Now the plan is to throw part of that at Panthers in a bid to release Laurie.
Laurie is the next priority so we can have a full off season with future spin.
Musgrove also offered new 2 year deal.

Thank you, I think the fact WT aren't disclosing the amount we got from manly is a big mistake. It makes us look weak, because it looks like we aren't announcing how much we got from Manly because if we announced it everyone would know we were weak. We had a chance here to stand up to these players, and instead we caved. We even tried to stand tough, Leo coming out and talking tough, and then in less than a week it's all hush hush sort it out behind closed doors.

Lesson we hopefully learned here;
1. Leo needs to not say things in public and then go back on them. He should NOT have said that rubbish about being tough on Aloiai and the comment about mowing lawns and painting sheds. Now he looks like a liar.

Lessons we did not learn here;
1. Letting Aloiai go for "x" amount of money will NOT deter a player from trying it again in the future at our club. It was a poor effort, there is absolutely no deterrent to prevent a player doing it again in the future. You can pretty much guarantee they will within the next 12 months. Disappointed we are still soft.

The irony is that we were screwed over by Aloiai the scummy and Manly, and the pittance we did get now we will try to use legitimately to get our man early, which may or may not work.

Nice guys finish last. Or ninth. Or this year 11th.

Laurie arriving in 21’, Just another thing to get our hopes up about only for us to fail. WT for life. ?

First I have heard of this, would be good if it happened, we are still 3 short on our roster