John Bateman #268

I just can’t get this paying $300 plus to get rid of him and no one looks like coming in , we are undermanned in the backrow as it is , so we are down $300 plus and down a tackler with no replacement mentioned other than a bunch of raw kids who would not tackle in NSW cup this year , we have a great looking back line. But again we don’t have a pack to beat 3/4 s of the other teams , we just never get a balance good forwards NO backs , good backs NO forwards , can’t see us getting into the top 8 next year with our pack
 
I just can’t get this paying $300 plus to get rid of him and no one looks like coming in , we are undermanned in the backrow as it is , so we are down $300 plus and down a tackler with no replacement mentioned other than a bunch of raw kids who would not tackle in NSW cup this year , we have a great looking back line. But again we don’t have a pack to beat 3/4 s of the other teams , we just never get a balance good forwards NO backs , good backs NO forwards , can’t see us getting into the top 8 next year with our pack
What don't you like about our pack be specific.
 
What don't you like about our pack be specific.
I think our front row is good and has dept , hooker is very good .
Lock is a major problem , no one stands out at all .
Samual is our really only backrower with class , seyfarth is a good on his day but over all is not a starting player , porter played a few good games but again not a starting player .
None of the kids even looked like they belonged in 1st grade
I hope that answers ur question, just my take on our pack , others will have there thoughts , cheers
 
46 games played....Us 24 them 22
It seems to go in clusters i.e. us for a few years and then them for a few, but over all we are very even
the last few years the games have been chaotic. last year at Leichhardt was nuts. 2023 needs to introduction. the soft whistle of 2022 also comes to mind. never a dull moment.

this year's the 20 year anniversary of 2005 at Leichhardt on a Sunday arvo. it's going to be much like the ones previous.
 
I just can’t get this paying $300 plus to get rid of him and no one looks like coming in , we are undermanned in the backrow as it is , so we are down $300 plus and down a tackler with no replacement mentioned other than a bunch of raw kids who would not tackle in NSW cup this year , we have a great looking back line. But again we don’t have a pack to beat 3/4 s of the other teams , we just never get a balance good forwards NO backs , good backs NO forwards , can’t see us getting into the top 8 next year with our pack
The way I see it is the club is far better off losing $300k per year and not having him around than using $650-700k of the cap (plus top 30 spot) on a player who imo added very little on the field and is obviously not wanted by the club.

While definitely not a fan of him as a player, to me it became untenable as soon as he talked back to Marshall.

Of course, we can only speculate, but it seems pretty likely the pair had a heated exchange after a game in front of the whole team.

In my view, you simply can't have any player - let alone a senior one - undermine the coach and his authority like that; I doubt he would've let his emotions get the better of him if he were on the receiving end of a spray from Bennett or Bellamy.

Particularly because of his age and inexperience, Marshall just can't allow that to happen - for his own sake as a coach and the club's for setting standards.
 
I just can’t get this paying $300 plus to get rid of him and no one looks like coming in ,

Same.... It's idiocy!!

We started paying players to play elsewhere in 2012 with Gibbs and Fifita.
(I don't know that we've ever stopped - even now)
- Anyone care to remember how we've gone in this time?

If we were to replace him with a 'Brandon Tumeth' for argument sake....
We're effectively Paying Brandon Tumeth 450k+ to play Back Row, And saving 200k...

For that 200k (That buys another nothing),
I'd be looking to make it work with Bateman.
 
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