John Bateman #268

The best thing we can do now for forum sanity is to let Johny fade into a dim memory, hope the heat up there doesn't waste him down to half his weight, he whinged about it from the time he arrived, good stuff.
Perhaps for sanity we the forum should forget him but the club internally should be investigating his time here.
Why did he and multiple other rep forwards fail to play anywhere near their best?
How accurate are his claims that juniors aren't being developed appropriately?
And what is being done to rectify this?
 
Perhaps for sanity we the forum should forget him but the club internally should be investigating his time here.
Why did he and multiple other rep forwards fail to play anywhere near their best?
How accurate are his claims that juniors aren't being developed appropriately?
And what is being done to rectify this?
Look only what happens going forward will answer the junior's suggestion and Richo is here now so the lack of senior form would be addressed, I think they had a look at the Bateman situation and the result is he's gone, when a player leaves and post some stupid image as a parting shot when he's been paid good money what's that say about his character, sorry mate but it's a good riddance from me.
 
The Article in the Sun Herald this morning by Christian Nicolussi "Silence of Marshall 'bizarre': Bateman"..... is simply "bizarre" in itself, claiming he was made the scapegoat for another disappointing Tigers season sounds more like paranoia to me. Then citing Brooks as a similar example of poor treatment by the club is a ridiculous comparison when you consider the relative contributions made by each to the club.
For a player of his experience, the the discipline he exhibited last season was extremely disappointing before he was overshadowed by his younger less experienced team mates. Yet the article goes on to say "Bateman was concerned about the development of the Tigers younger players, saying "I wanted the kids to learn. They have a great bunch of kids there. At times, I didn't fell like they were learning how I wanted them to learn and I wanted them to get better". Well John, you had the opportunity to do that for two seasons and for the greater part of that time, you failed miserably.
This article is totally one sided, someone is clearly deluded here and it's not the club, nor Benji. We really are better off with this guy is out of Sydney on that point at least we all agree!!
Yep. Everyone fired or let go from an organization will find a way to spin the narrative away from them. There was certainly a reason why John would have been nudged away from the club.
 
Look only what happens going forward will answer the junior's suggestion and Richo is here now so the lack of senior form would be addressed, I think they had a look at the Bateman situation and the result is he's gone, when a player leaves and post some stupid image as a parting shot when he's been paid good money what's that say about his character, sorry mate but it's a good riddance from me.
While wearing Wests Tigers colours he very rarely run the ball hard, very rarely tackled hard, yet wanted to fight everyone.
That says it all to me as you ONLY earn the right to be a hard man by running the ball hard and tackling hard.
 
While wearing Wests Tigers colours he very rarely run the ball hard, very rarely tackled hard, yet wanted tn fight everyone.
That says it all to me as you ONLY earn the right to be a hard man by running the ball hard and tackling hard.
The churping mouth, the stare downs and aggro are all signs of you are past it or frustrated with your own form.
 
The Article in the Sun Herald this morning by Christian Nicolussi "Silence of Marshall 'bizarre': Bateman"..... is simply "bizarre" in itself, claiming he was made the scapegoat for another disappointing Tigers season sounds more like paranoia to me. Then citing Brooks as a similar example of poor treatment by the club is a ridiculous comparison when you consider the relative contributions made by each to the club.
For a player of his experience, the the discipline he exhibited last season was extremely disappointing before he was overshadowed by his younger less experienced team mates. Yet the article goes on to say "Bateman was concerned about the development of the Tigers younger players, saying "I wanted the kids to learn. They have a great bunch of kids there. At times, I didn't fell like they were learning how I wanted them to learn and I wanted them to get better". Well John, you had the opportunity to do that for two seasons and for the greater part of that time, you failed miserably.
This article is totally one sided, someone is clearly deluded here and it's not the club, nor Benji. We really are better off with this guy is out of Sydney on that point at least we all agree!!
You’ve missed the point.
It’s those who claim he was toxic and fighting with the coaches that have scapegoated him.
The club has done neither. The club isn’t the source of all this crap. Media and people with an axe to grind initiated it and then disillusioned fans have taken it as gospel and run with it.
 
Whilst this article is purely from Batemans side of things is anyone not concerned by this:

Apart from losing, Bateman was concerned about the development of the younger players, and said: “I wanted the kids to learn, they have a great bunch of kids there. At times, I didn’t feel like they were learning how I wanted them to learn, and I wanted them to get better.

“I refer back to [former Tigers’ halfback] Luke Brooks. The period I thought ‘Brooksy’ should have been playing State of Origin and for Australia, he got caught in that trap of being there, and he didn’t pick anything else up, and he was made the scapegoat for years and years.

Forgetting the last part is referring to Brooks, the inference is very clear about lack of development. I hope this has been rectified.
This actually gives a little of bit of weight to the rumour that he was upset about the senior players bearing the brunt of criticism from Marshall while the younger guys were let off easy. Part of the development of younger players is holding them responsible for their stuff ups so they learn from their mistakes. He may have been upset that this wasn't happening.
 
The Article in the Sun Herald this morning by Christian Nicolussi "Silence of Marshall 'bizarre': Bateman"..... is simply "bizarre" in itself, claiming he was made the scapegoat for another disappointing Tigers season sounds more like paranoia to me. Then citing Brooks as a similar example of poor treatment by the club is a ridiculous comparison when you consider the relative contributions made by each to the club.
For a player of his experience, the the discipline he exhibited last season was extremely disappointing before he was overshadowed by his younger less experienced team mates. Yet the article goes on to say "Bateman was concerned about the development of the Tigers younger players, saying "I wanted the kids to learn. They have a great bunch of kids there. At times, I didn't fell like they were learning how I wanted them to learn and I wanted them to get better". Well John, you had the opportunity to do that for two seasons and for the greater part of that time, you failed miserably.
This article is totally one sided, someone is clearly deluded here and it's not the club, nor Benji. We really are better off with this guy is out of Sydney on that point at least we all agree!!
Bateman was no scapegoat. He was simply shit the whole time he was here. He offered nothing other than giving away shit penalties at bad times during the game and how dare Marshall call him on it. We will be better of without his cancerous attitude, in particular our juniors.
 
Bateman was no scapegoat. He was simply shit the whole time he was here. He offered nothing other than giving away shit penalties at bad times during the game and how dare Marshall call him on it. We will be better of without his cancerous attitude, in particular our juniors.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
 
Bateman didn't get on with Ricky, Hastings and Benji. There is a common theme here. He strikes me as someone who doesn't take accountability for his own performance.
 

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