It is quite difficult for a player to draw attention to his ability when he is playing Stae Cup in some minor suburban ground which only attracts a few hundred spectators at best. The Under 20's prelude the 1st grade match and the match is often shown direct on Foxtel. The attention is certainly with the Under 20's. Their is certainly a problem in nurturing and keeping young players who have good potential but don't qualify for Under 20's because of their age. Theirin lies a very large problem for the NRL but nobody seems to want to address it.
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@stryker said:
Good appraisal of his strengths and weaknesses, with his initial contact in defence an area that needed fine tuning, but certainly more willing than dozens of players already in first grade. Our backline stats were woeful, with the only guy capable of attacking the line preferring to maintain his inside, cut, midfield bomb routine. The arrival of Koro only emphasized how much penetration we lacked. He'll play Super XV, Oz 7's and hopefully move forward
In the meantime, for all of those who continue to rant about soft Union players, perhaps you could theorize why, with the exception of Brad Thorn, not one RL forward has moved to RU? Bigger, tougher, faster, fitter, they're Supermen aren't they?
AmericanHistoryX
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I never saw nothing in this guy anyway.
Watched him play a few games on the tube ABC - he sure knew how to bomb a try.
Yeh - he's fast - nobody can deny that.
He became famous because of one race. thats it.
however i must say - at least he gave it a shot.
He wasnt the bad guy - he was a contender.
"I could of been someONE" - Marlon BraNDO - oN tHE wATEFRONT
Watched him play a few games on the tube ABC - he sure knew how to bomb a try.
Yeh - he's fast - nobody can deny that.
He became famous because of one race. thats it.
however i must say - at least he gave it a shot.
He wasnt the bad guy - he was a contender.
"I could of been someONE" - Marlon BraNDO - oN tHE wATEFRONT
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@cktiger said:
And there you see in two short sentences, the sum total of your average RL fans Rugby knowledge. Nothing wrong with that, but if you're going to criticise and make dismissive remarks, you might at least be coming of some basis of understanding
hybrid_tiger
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Thanks god, we now don't have to put up with 50 threads ever week calling him to play first grade.
innsaneink
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He was 500's to make it…really ....from club rugby to NRL, no chance,...just another factor that is the boys club Humphreys holds court over
Glad hes gone
You wont hear of him again...maybe he should take up haberdashery
What clubs he gone to>?
Glad hes gone
You wont hear of him again...maybe he should take up haberdashery
What clubs he gone to>?
Fade_To_Black
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@Citizen Tiger said:
To be honest, maybe they don't wanna switch to a code that is boring. There is definately no doubting the toughness of Union forwards (some of the backs are another matter).
Whenever I try to get excited about Union (mainly Aus vs NZ), normally after 10 minutes of baffling referee's decisions, penalty goals and kicking the ball back to the opposition or into touch as soon as you receive it I turn off the telly.
IMO it is a very technical game but just getting more boring by the year, maybe that is why not many League blokes make the switch, you need to be interested in what you do
innsaneink
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Not a bad game to play, but Id rather watch Big Brother …or my fingernails growing...than a game of union, that said I'll probably watch the bloodyslow cup tomorro...beats harry potter
@Citizen Tiger said:
fitter? Faster? R u watching the same game? They are bigger (fatter) aka dunning. They r all like George rose who is a fatty in league. also just because they ruck n maul don't make them tough, league u can use ur shoulder, half the unions dudes blokes get up if on the end of a real big.
I mean, sbw is a forward in league but a back in union? Says it all
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Fade_To_Black
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@dermo said:
Sonny Bill????? He seems to dominate in Union…not bad for an ex-Leaugie I would say
tigermaniac
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From what I saw of him, he won't be missed at the WT or in the NRL. Good luck in the future anyway Johnny.
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Prime difference is Union has contested scrums. You want your forwards to be big to win the scrum, you want your 2nd row to be tall for the line outs.
Mobility is less of a factor in union since ruck play is essential to the game - pick and drive etc to eventually give it to the backs.
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@Fade To Black said:
They don't switch because they wouldn't last five minutes. The line out is a contest, the scrum is a contest, most importantly the breakdown is a contest. In attack, the support player needs to secure possession, in defence players need to contest possession. This is not hands on the hips, watch your mate cart it up and then set as a possible receiver, nor is it adjusting to protect your particular channel in defence. The work rate is substantially higher than that of your RL forward, must as the mythologists will disagree. RL forwards might be big, tough, strong and imposing, but no one in their right mind would pitch them into a game of Rugby, if for no other reasons than the risk of serious injury at the breakdown and scrum
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@mtd said:
No, what is says is that he couldn't play in the forwards because technically he's rubbish and no coach could be bothered spending two years giving him some skills. Don't get yourself in a tangle over SBW, he was a benchwarmer for the AB's and only started in the absence of Conrad Smith
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Different skill set, alot of technicalities in each sport that require some serious instinct only bought about by years in the sport.
Pretty simple equation.
Pretty simple equation.
Citizen_Tiger
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League is a simple game, it's been progressively 'dumbed down' since the sixties, there are no contests for possession anymore, the landscape has been cleared of any obstacles that might inhibit the forward progress of the ball. To suggest it is game with lots of technicalities is just wrong. Forwards have very limited job descriptions and are coached not to take risks. Offloads are the exception rather than the rule for instance. Set piece moves are a rarity, the game has become one of committing defenders in order to create space, with the decoy now playing the major role in attacking moves. Occasionally a Benji or a Barba pop up and break all the house rules, but intrinsically you know what you're going to get.
