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I repeat every club has explayers in coaching mentoring positions.
Rookie coach Keiran Foran aiming to bring premiership winning team mate Brett Stewart on board with his new coaching team.
Some people actually believe that is what builds culture in a club having players that have had success wearing the jersey and remain connected to the club.
 
I repeat every club has explayers in coaching mentoring positions.
Rookie coach Keiran Foran aiming to bring premiership winning team mate Brett Stewart on board with his new coaching team.
Some people actually believe that is what builds culture in a club having players that have had success wearing the jersey and remain connected to the club.
Thats all well and good ...and I agree but there comes a point i think where a line should be drawn....whats the ultimate goal.here?
Getting some positive, succesful working attacking footy being played or
A team that cant score but has a good culture....
NIRZA* has been a problem for a while.now

*no.idea red zone attack
 
Thats all well and good ...and I agree but there comes a point i think where a line should be drawn....whats the ultimate goal.here?
Getting some positive, succesful working attacking footy being played or
A team that cant score but has a good culture....
NIRZA* has been a problem for a while.now

*no.idea red zone attack
No problem with anyone being replaced if they fail but all clubs build "culture" on the back of players that are connected to the club.
This "boys club" tag (specifically aimed at the 2005 players our only successful squad) as if it's a problem is not unique to this club and I would suggest that other supporters of clubs like to see their ex players associated with the club.
Success is built on the back of clubs developing and retaining talented players - WTs has failed miserably at that since 2011.
Our problem is continual failure for a myriad of reasons taking aim at the one lot blokes that were successful does not build culture.
 
I repeat every club has explayers in coaching mentoring positions.
Rookie coach Keiran Foran aiming to bring premiership winning team mate Brett Stewart on board with his new coaching team.
Some people actually believe that is what builds culture in a club having players that have had success wearing the jersey and remain connected to the club.
You’re right, this does happen in many clubs. Manly has been fairly successful in the last 20 years and can afford to implement that strategy. We however have a really small sample of success which suggests we should pick another strategy.
 
Thats all well and good ...and I agree but there comes a point i think where a line should be drawn....whats the ultimate goal.here?
Getting some positive, succesful working attacking footy being played or
A team that cant score but has a good culture....
NIRZA* has been a problem for a while.now

*no.idea red zone attack
Can’t believe they aren’t changing attack by the looks of things. Clearly was our biggest issue
 
Can’t believe they aren’t changing attack by the looks of things. Clearly was our biggest issue
I understand the thinking in not making mass coaching changes and theyre probably thinking with Luai gone and hopefully a settled spine with Latu featuring along with the attack of Averillo...theyre probably gambling on the attack improving.
If we can.avoid off field distractions...might help as well...Twal admitted the Luai stuff did play a part
 
Let's hope that Luai can do the same and provide lots of distractions with his mid season PNG obligations and shit on field form for the Parra-sites next season and then stink it up real bad in the land of the head hunters the year after.
 
I repeat every club has explayers in coaching mentoring positions.
Rookie coach Keiran Foran aiming to bring premiership winning team mate Brett Stewart on board with his new coaching team.
Some people actually believe that is what builds culture in a club having players that have had success wearing the jersey and remain connected to the club.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that having successful ex-players involved is a bad thing. Every club does it, and there’s obviously value in having people around who understand the jersey, the history and what success looks like.

The point is that simply bringing back former players doesn’t automatically create a winning culture. Culture comes from the standards being set now - coaching, recruitment, development, accountability and performance. If Brett Stewart can genuinely add to that, then great for Manly, bring him in.

But there’s a massive difference between using successful ex-players to help build the future and constantly looking backwards hoping past success will somehow recreate itself. The best clubs can respect their history without being trapped by it.

Culture isn’t a reunion tour. It’s built through elite standards, smart recruitment, accountability and winning.

Respect the past, absolutely. But if “building culture” means constantly digging through the old boys’ phone book trying to recreate the glory days, that’s not culture - it’s nostalgia.

Winning clubs build forward. They hire the best people for the job, not the best people from the scrapbook.

The past should be something you’re proud of, not something you keep resurrecting because the present gives you nothing to celebrate.
 
successful ex-players = Brett Hodgson and Chris Heighington.

Benji just needs to surround himself with at least one but perhaps two good people. The wider issue for WTs is a significant increase in funding for pathways, recruitment officers, development officers and recruitment, identification and retention of the best juniors.
 

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