Jordan Kahu & contractual obligations

@Snide said:
@anderson silva said:
well he wont sign a contract beyond 2010 obviously so why hold onto him for a year when he doesnt want to play.

Do you understand that the Broncos actions in offering a larger amount to a contracted player that in any way encourages that player to breach their extant contract with another party is in breach of all common law contractual principles and would be actionable for major damages in any court within the Westminster system????

Ummmmm…....The Westminster System is our system of Government (legislature) not our legal system.....

@Snide said:
**NO!!** And on that basis stop telling us that Jason Cayless has signed because you clearly have no idea about contractual law.

And on that basis it's clear that you are no lawyer either…...

Glenn
 
I've been following this one too Snide. I don't like it at all.
From the outside looking in it seems to me that this young fella would be down here in a flash if brisbane didn't approach him at the last minute. All of a sudden he has a more attractive offer - beit because of the locality and his family, beit the dream of playing for the Broncos, beit more money.
Unfortunately he is obligated and if his father wanted to set him on the right course early in his life, he should be encouraging him to meet his obligations. He has many a contract to sign in his career. 2 or 3 years is nothing. If he was my son I'd be giving him a good lesson in life and the suggesting the right moral basics to follow.

Wouldn't be a good start to a promising career to be carrying on like a Sonny Bill or Mason.
 
Rolling over to Brisbane(& the kid)both set very bad precedents,& encourage similiar behaviour going forward.
Id like to think an exposure to WTs mite encourage him to lock his future in with us
After investing considerable $$ & resources in him to date, I'd enforce his committment to WTs & let fate take its course in 2011.
 
@clontarfkid said:
Rolling over to Brisbane(& the kid)both set very bad precedents,& encourage similiar behaviour going forward.
Id like to think an exposure to WTs mite encourage him to lock his future in with us
After investing considerable $$ & resources in him to date, I'd enforce his committment to WTs & let fate take its course in 2011.

Wests Tigers in all probability would have paid some school fees for a couple of years and put him on a $1,000 contract a year ….now they are just taking up their $10,000 - $15,000 option on him.
The salary cap for the NYC comp is $250,000 so that makes the average contract $12,500.

I wouldn't refer to that as considerable $$ & resources...but maybe he was a different case...I don't know.

In the meantime of course Brisbane has probably come up with a $15,000 - $20,000 contract...and he gets to stay near his family.

Wests Tigers sign up about 30 new kids each year on $500 - $1000 contracts...with an option clause in favour of Wests .. when they turn 17- 18 Wests can take up that option.
 
i've heard it is done and dusted… he's going to brisbane.
i don't know whether the tigers have been compensated for this or not.
 
@Blackandwhite said:
@clontarfkid said:
Rolling over to Brisbane(& the kid)both set very bad precedents,& encourage similiar behaviour going forward.
Id like to think an exposure to WTs mite encourage him to lock his future in with us
After investing considerable $$ & resources in him to date, I'd enforce his committment to WTs & let fate take its course in 2011.

Wests Tigers in all probability would have paid some school fees for a couple of years and put him on a $1,000 contract a year ….now they are just taking up their $10,000 - $15,000 option on him.
The salary cap for the NYC comp is $250,000 so that makes the average contract $12,500.

I wouldn't refer to that as considerable $$ & resources...but maybe he was a different case...I don't know.

In the meantime of course Brisbane has probably come up with a $15,000 - $20,000 contract...and he gets to stay near his family.

Jeez,when youre recruiting "20 or 30 kids each year",as you say,with the knowledge & expectation that only a few at most may emerge to go to the next level,thats quite an investment in resources to identify that one or two.
When one of those does happen to stand out only to get cherry-picked by another club ,that feels a lot like a waste of a large chunk of our investment for that particular year.
Weve done all the hard work only for Brisbane,with ironically one of the largest nurseries in NRL,to pick the eyes out of our juniors.
Unless the kid is suffering severe psychological problems fron being away from his familly,
Id take a hard line against such opportunists
 
@angeman said:
i've heard it is done and dusted… he's going to brisbane.
i don't know whether the tigers have been compensated for this or not.

![](http://i45.tinypic.com/sxyurr.jpg)

Well looks as if you heard right…....although it's not on their 'Official website"

This is very dissapointing....Bronco's hey.....$$$$ out of their cap.....would be nice........
 
@Geo. said:
@angeman said:
i've heard it is done and dusted… he's going to brisbane.
i don't know whether the tigers have been compensated for this or not.

![](http://i45.tinypic.com/sxyurr.jpg)

Well looks as if you heard right…....although it's not on their 'Official website"

This is very dissapointing....Bronco's hey.....$$$$ out of their cap.....would be nice........

Whats that wispy thing under his nose?
 
@clontarfkid said:
Jeez,when youre recruiting "20 or 30 kids each year",as you say,with the knowledge & expectation that only a few at most may emerge to go to the next level,thats quite an investment in resources to identify that one or two.
When one of those does happen to stand out only to get cherry-picked by another club ,that feels a lot like a waste of a large chunk of our investment for that particular year.
Weve done all the hard work only for Brisbane,with ironically one of the largest nurseries in NRL,to pick the eyes out of our juniors.
Unless the kid is suffering severe psychological problems fron being away from his familly,
Id take a hard line against such opportunists

They should stop recruiting from Keebra Park…Unfortunately most of these kids know if they are good enough someone close to home will make a better offer and they are just having an each way bet.

Of course the kid now has 25,000($) reasons to be close to his family....Why would he want to leave and why force him?

So we got Benji Marshall 2003, Rangi Chase 2004, Ben Teo 2005 and now Robert Lui from Keebra. In the meantime in the Campbelltown area St Greg's alone produces 2 or 3 NRL players each year.

I just think we need a more professional unit be it scouts or recruitment manager or both who work hard to find these kids mainly in the Liverpool Campbelltown Group 6 areas, even if it is at 12/13 years of age.

I find it nonsensical to go looking in Queensland and leaving the talent in our own backyard to be taken by others.

"JARRYD HAYNE, Israel Folau and Krisnan Inu - the three emerging superstars who grew up together in Minto"
 
That is a massive shame… Just my gut feeling , but I reckon this kid is going to be a gun fullback and will be playing for Queensland in 2012.
 
@Blackandwhite said:
"JARRYD HAYNE, Israel Folau and Krisnan Inu - the three emerging superstars who grew up together in Minto"

Future stars who were coming through the system yes, one who moved away and the other two whose parents may not have been all that keen for their kids to be Wests Tigers when examining the garbage that has happened off field in the lead up to their junior rep careers.
 
Pathetic effort on all parts. First by the kid not honouring his contract and second by the Tigers on enforcing it. Rolling over to the Broncos who always get what they want really is something that gets up my nose.
 
Club is run as a business so should our books, if someone isn't happy and is going to stand firm and not put the boots on for us what really do we gain by keeping him off the field for a year? A bad rep with young kids who have self doubts at times especially if they are away from family like alot of the kids are these days anyway? or do we cut our loss and gain something from the Broncos in doing so?

How do we know he had NRL all over him? Whats to say Mullaney who already proved his worth in NYC and has another 2yrs to go in the grade wouldn't be a better option anyway? Its not as though fullback is an area we are screaming out for players anyway with Brown, Lote, Tomato, Moltzen and co all able to fit in at the back not mentioning any of the kids.
 
@AmericanHistoryX said:
let him go i say and good riddance.
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we want kids with tiger hearts.

And there are plenty of those kids in our own backyard…forget Queensland kids.

@Mighty Tiger said:
Club is run as a business so should our books, if someone isn't happy and is going to stand firm and not put the boots on for us what really do we gain by keeping him off the field for a year? A bad rep with young kids who have self doubts at times especially if they are away from family like alot of the kids are these days anyway? or do we cut our loss and gain something from the Broncos in doing so?

How do we know he had NRL all over him? Whats to say Mullaney who already proved his worth in NYC and has another 2yrs to go in the grade wouldn't be a better option anyway? Its not as though fullback is an area we are screaming out for players anyway with Brown, Lote, Tomato, Moltzen and co all able to fit in at the back not mentioning any of the kids.

Your right nothing to be gained by enforcing the contract and the Jordan Kahu's of this world know that all to well.

Mullaney will be 20 next year so 2010 will be his last year….and he is the exact opposite of Kahu....Thank God !
 
the last fullback to win the peter sterling medal was tipped to be 'the next darren lockyer'

his name was beau champion

being a good schoolboy doesnt mean you will be a good first grader
 

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