Jordan Kahu & contractual obligations

[Buckets_of_blood]

the last fullback to win the peter sterling medal was tipped to be 'the next darren lockyer'

his name was beau champion

being a good schoolboy doesnt mean you will be a good first grader

But Beau Champion is a good first grader, whats your point?

No one here knows the real story to whats gone on the entire thread is mere speculation and guessing

 

[Blackandwhite]

Lockyer was never selected in any Australian schoolboys teams…yet he is the only current player to make the list of Australia's 100 Greatest Players...so maybe that theory works in reverse as well !

 

[clontarfkid]

Club is run as a business so should our books, if someone isn't happy and is going to stand firm and not put the boots on for us what really do we gain by keeping him off the field for a year? A bad rep with young kids who have self doubts at times especially if they are away from family like alot of the kids are these days anyway? or do we cut our loss and gain something from the Broncos in doing so?

How do we know he had NRL all over him? Whats to say Mullaney who already proved his worth in NYC and has another 2yrs to go in the grade wouldn't be a better option anyway? Its not as though fullback is an area we are screaming out for players anyway with Brown, Lote, Tomato, Moltzen and co all able to fit in at the back not mentioning any of the kids.

What we achieve by enforcing contractual comittments (like any other "business" does)is to send a very clear signal to others(both the young players and rival clubs) that self indulgent & opportunistic behaviour isnt on, that the animals arent running the zoo & that the Tigers arent going to be a doormat for the Broncos or anyone else.
If that takes a year on the sidelines,so be it.
In the absence of any other facts,I believe our actions with this kid are wimpy soft & quite likely to have future repercussions
Im dissapointed

 

[fergiefurr]

the last fullback to win the peter sterling medal was tipped to be 'the next darren lockyer'

his name was beau champion

being a good schoolboy doesnt mean you will be a good first grader

But Beau Champion is a good first grader, whats your point?

No one here knows the real story to whats gone on the entire thread is mere speculation and guessing

champion is average as, we have about 7 or 8 outside backs better then him

 

[alien]

i sure hope we got compensated

 

[Mystery]

the last fullback to win the peter sterling medal was tipped to be 'the next darren lockyer'

his name was beau champion

being a good schoolboy doesnt mean you will be a good first grader

But Beau Champion is a good first grader, whats your point?

No one here knows the real story to whats gone on the entire thread is mere speculation and guessing

champion is average as, we have about 7 or 8 outside backs better then him

Ohh big call… He definately would be starting in our best line up

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

What we achieve by enforcing contractual comittments (like any other "business" does)is to send a very clear signal to others(both the young players and rival clubs) that self indulgent & opportunistic behaviour isnt on, that the animals arent running the zoo & that the Tigers arent going to be a doormat for the Broncos or anyone else.
If that takes a year on the sidelines,so be it.
In the absence of any other facts,I believe our actions with this kid are wimpy soft & quite likely to have future repercussions
Im dissapointed

Theres being wimpy and being logical and cutting our loss before causing other side effects within the club for the future, I think without knowing all the facts alot of assumptions can be made be them healthy or to some unhealthy.

We have alot of kids at the club that aren't juniors, we have a great relationship with Keebra Park, the last thing we want to do is cause friction amongst those areas, sure we need to be given respect with our competitors but if adequate compensation has been arranged what exactly is our loss? Its not as though we spent a fortune developing this player anyway?

 

[Marshall_magic]

I'm not too fussed about this decision. Under 20s isn't all about trophies, it's also about junior development. Is it worth holding this kid for a year if he's going to bugger off back to Brisbane in 12 months? Maybe in the NRL it would, but if we let him go now, we can blood someone else in that position instead.

 

[Buckets_of_blood]

the last fullback to win the peter sterling medal was tipped to be 'the next darren lockyer'

his name was beau champion

being a good schoolboy doesnt mean you will be a good first grader

But Beau Champion is a good first grader, whats your point?

No one here knows the real story to whats gone on the entire thread is mere speculation and guessing

champion is average as, we have about 7 or 8 outside backs better then him

Your point seemed to be that good schoolboys dont always make good first graders…..that is actually common knowledge.
The example you used was a very very poor one, Beau Champion no matter what your opinion of him has proved YOU wrong, he is a regular first grader , and quite a good one at that. Hes made it to the top where 80-90% drop off at every new level they reach.
It sounds like you dont know what your point is, it also sounds personal.

 

[Geo]

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I think the Elite School Boys often go on to have First grade careers….Kahu could be one of those.....

Geez when I look through the list of some 200 Australian Schoolboys I wouldn't say 80 to 90 % drop off...........more like only 10% don't make first grade....Quite a few are in the current Australian team.........

 

[Buckets_of_blood]

I wasnt talking about _elite_ schoolboys, you are

Peter Sterling medal winners was mentioned….as was Beau Champion.

The eight previous winners of this award, before Champion:

1996 Chris Smith John Paul II, Marayong
1997 Greg Keary Parramatta Marist High
1998 Peter Rose Erindale College
1999 Christian Orsini Terra Sancta College
2000 Riley Mullins St Gregory's Campbelltown
2001 Mat Brown Palm Beach Currumbin
2002 Aaron Lewis Wavell State High
2003 Michael Carl St Dominics College

.....household names, just like Beau Champion.

 

[Geo]

What about these guys…....

1978 Peter Sterling Patrician Brothers, Fairfield
1979 Ben Elias Holy Cross College, Ryde
1980 Ivan Henjak St Gregory's, Campbelltown
1981 Ben Elias Holy Cross College, Ryde
1982 Paul Langmack Patrician Brothers, Fairfield
1983 Greg Alexander Patrician Brothers, Fairfield
1984 Paul Osborne Christian Brothers, Lewisham

 

[Buckets_of_blood]

What about them?

 

[Geo]

Household names who have won the Peter Sterling medal…....

Just cause the last ten years hasn't seen many kick on..doesn't mean it cant happen.......

I'd say more tha half that have won this particular medal have gone on to be very good first graders or higher.....

 

[Buckets_of_blood]

Sort of like what I was saying, ie: Beau Champion.

 

[crouching_tiger]

THE Gold Coast's Keebra Park State High has experienced an agonising defeat in the Arrive Alive Cup national final, beaten 20-10 by Endeavour Sports High.
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The result hung in the balance until the dying seconds when Endeavour centre Chase Stanley sealed the match with a try after the siren to send the school's fans into raptures.

For former Dragons and Steelers star, now Endeavour coach Jeff Hardy, the win was especially sweet.
"These players have just been great all year. I've loved working with them. The passion they showed and the hard work they did was just great," Hardy said.

"I'm just ecstatic, the boys played phenomenal football. I didn't think they'd get this far, but they just played so well against a really good team, they were just sensational."

The biggest call of the match came with 10 minutes remaining when Keebra trailed 16-10 and five-eighth Dane McDonald appeared to send Bodene Thompson on his way for a possible equaliser, only to be cruelly called back for a forward pass by referee Alan Shortall.

Replays suggested the pass may have been fine, much to the dismay of Keebra coach Greg Lenton.
"One call goes the other way and it's a different ball game," Lenton
said.

"But I'm extremely proud of the boys to get this far and to compete against a team that has rolled over the top of plenty of great schools.

"We have a lot of young players who will be back next year and we hope to go one better."

**Keebra's Ben Te'o capped an otherwise sad occasion by winning the prestigious Peter Sterling Medal for Player of the Year.\
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Te'o performed extremely well in a beaten side and thoroughly deserved the accolade.**

"It's a great honour to win the medal, it's just a shame we couldn't win today. I'm really proud of the boys to make the final and hopefully we can kick on from this," Te'o said.

Endeavour had the majority of possession and territory in the early stages and it appeared winger Luke Hume had opened the scoring after four minutes, only to be denied by touch judge Scott Murphy for a Marc Russell forward pass.

After holding out the reigning champions, Keebra Park marched downfield to start the scoring when second-rower Te'o attacked the short side and crashed over the defence in the 10th minute for an early 4-0 lead.

But Endeavour hooker Daniel Ezekiel wrestled the lead back for his side just four minutes later with a scintillating individual try featuring a clever dummy and some light stepping.

The try, plus halfback Mat Seamark's conversion gave Hardy's team a 6-4 lead.

But Keebra weren't fazed by the set back and snatched the lead back in the crucial moments leading up to half-time.

Thompson streaked over on the right edge from a super cut-out pass to give the Queensland champions a 10-6 lead at the break.

The lead was only short-lived when just two minutes after the resumption of play, Luke Letele caught the Keebra goal line defence napping to sneak over from dummy half and set up a 12-10 advantage.

With 12 minutes remaining, Endeavour centre Chase Stanley finished off a tremendous backline movement involving Russell and lock Blake Ayshford to increase the lead to 16-10, setting up a
tense finish.

Keebra failed to crack the Endeavour defence and in desperation in the final seconds, coughed up possession allowing Stanley to apply salt to wound and score his second try for the 20-10 final scoreline.

"There is nothing better than this and to score two tries is a huge bonus," Stanley said. "We stuck together as mates and did it for each other and for Jeff."
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ENDEAVOUR SPORTS HIGH 16 (Daniel Ezekiel, Luke Letele, Chase Stanley tries; Mat Seamark 2 goals) beat KEEBRA PARK STATE HIGH 10 (Ben Te'o, Bodene Thompson tries; Matthew Parata goal)

 

[tigergirlz]

The use of Keebra Park High for Tiger potentials has always been strong. However, is there a possibility of housing the younger hopefuls closer to Campbelltown/Leichhardt/Auburn area?

 

[Buckets_of_blood]

The shool is where it is…the school is the reason the kids go/are sent....one of the best rugby league schools in the country....taking our kids away from there defeats the purpose.
We have St Gregs and holy Cross...both catholic colleges, where Keebra is a state sports high school

 

[Spartan117]

The use of Keebra Park High for Tiger potentials has always been strong. However, is there a possibility of housing the younger hopefuls closer to Campbelltown/Leichhardt/Auburn area?

That's a really good idea, Im hoping someone has already thought of it. and in the works

I believe they should turn a local school into a kebra style juggernout…

 

[Buckets_of_blood]

The use of Keebra Park High for Tiger potentials has always been strong. However, is there a possibility of housing the younger hopefuls closer to Campbelltown/Leichhardt/Auburn area?

That's a really good idea, Im hoping someone has already thought of it. and in the works

I believe **they** should turn a local school into a kebra style juggernout…

Who is 'they'?