OFFICIAL Jordan Miller #289

[Merlot]

the club wanted him gone,simples,some say our t/t ect are out of whack,if he loves the club that much ,he will learn some lessons,may return,hope he does when these kids fire,its all i got 4 hope,people talktrash 4 sake of talking,as i am .lol.cheers all,

 

[Joelcainenumber1fan]

I doubt it.

he must be or why would he seek legal advice if he did something really bad ??

 

[Joelcainenumber1fan]

btw when did this happen ??? isnt he playing at the moment in the international why is he training with the tigers also ???

 

[426Tlgerland]

"Hey let's set new standards to lift the club from the bottom."

But also

"Sack the bloke for being late twice? Sounds harsh."

Young blokes should be keen enough to be at training early and if they are overweight , or poor in a certain area should stay on after training and try and fix it , that’s a person you want in your team and club not ones that can’t even get to training on time , PLUS. Cops involved shows there could be more to come , Richo won’t look like a dick like our previous club bosses .

 

[Jolls]

What is telling here is the silence from the club. There have been murmurings in the press but nothing more.

The first leak of any magnitude has come from Miller and his mouthpiece. A notice of intent to terminate a contract is not something taken lightly. The key element of the process is that it provides Miller the opportunity to provide a response as to why his contract should not be terminated.

I am pretty sure that the Ambulance chaser has highlighted being late for training and police involvement as a way to screen the real issues at hand and as click bait to feed is craving for attention. I expect that there are more serious issues lurking beneath the surface.

From my perspective it is a good sign from the club; there are standards and if you fail to meet them your will be terminated.

Promising or not, Benji and Richo have determined he isn't a good fit. Jordan has sewed his oats and now has to reap the rewards. Interesting to see what the real story is.

 

[hammertime]

What is telling here is the silence from the club. There have been murmurings in the press but nothing more.

The first leak of any magnitude has come from Miller and his mouthpiece. A notice of intent to terminate a contract is not something taken lightly. The key element of the process is that it provides Miller the opportunity to provide a response as to why his contract should not be terminated.

I am pretty sure that the Ambulance chaser has highlighted being late for training and police involvement as a way to screen the real issues at hand and as click bait to feed is craving for attention. I expect that there are more serious issues lurking beneath the surface.

From my perspective it is a good sign from the club; there are standards and if you fail to meet them your will be terminated.

Promising or not, Benji and Richo have determined he isn't a good fit. Jordan has sewed his oats and now has to reap the rewards. Interesting to see what the real story is.

Except for leaving him off the internationals poster, which i think was the first indication something was up. That's a pretty strong statement from the club considering both departing and arriving players were on there.

 

[Jolls]

Except for leaving him off the internationals poster, which i think was the first indication something was up. That's a pretty strong statement from the club considering both departing and arriving players were on there.

True, poor form in my book. It really depends on what was happening in the background as to whether it was warranted or not. Now that Lee has it being played out in media as opposed to behind closed doors we may find out what was behind it all.

 

[balmain boy]

What is telling here is the silence from the club. There have been murmurings in the press but nothing more.

The first leak of any magnitude has come from Miller and his mouthpiece. A notice of intent to terminate a contract is not something taken lightly. The key element of the process is that it provides Miller the opportunity to provide a response as to why his contract should not be terminated.

I am pretty sure that the Ambulance chaser has highlighted being late for training and police involvement as a way to screen the real issues at hand and as click bait to feed is craving for attention. I expect that there are more serious issues lurking beneath the surface.

From my perspective it is a good sign from the club; there are standards and if you fail to meet them your will be terminated.

Promising or not, Benji and Richo have determined he isn't a good fit. Jordan has sewed his oats and now has to reap the rewards. Interesting to see what the real story is.

The club won't say anything until everything is 100% finalised and official. And nor should they.

 

[tig_prmz]

Does anyone remember any other player getting terminated for coming late or other minor indiscretions? Most terminations are due to off field/ legal issues, getting game into disrepute etc.

Obviously no player can be terminated due to lack of performance, lack of fitness etc...

This will all get settled out of court, but just seems like we find a way to have disgruntled ex employees..

 

[twentyforty]

Does anyone remember any other player getting terminated for coming late or other minor indiscretions? Most terminations are due to off field/ legal issues, getting game into disrepute etc.

Obviously no player can be terminated due to lack of performance, lack of fitness etc...

This will all get settled out of court, but just seems like we find a way to have disgruntled ex employees..

It doesn’t just happen by chance, a lot of thought and effort must go into it.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Does anyone remember any other player getting terminated for coming late or other minor indiscretions?

No. Dumb and dumber gave endless chances to certain players.

Good to see culture around these things changing.

 

[ROZELLE.O.G]

Are we sacking players after 2x times late.

That's a bit silly.

I'm sure there's better ways...

We need to make room for at least 7 - Top 30 spots to be competitive next season and rebuild the quickest way possible.

There is going to be a lot of pain in doing so but there's no other option other than waiting 3-5 years for contracts to run out. It should have been handled a lot better, Miller is young kid and has a lot of potential and if he was developed through the grades like he should be he would have the potential to be a top line front rower. The club would have been copping it if he wasn't locked up a couple of years ago the same as Makasini was locked up recently. The same can happen to Makasini too.

The NRL needs to have a system in place where juniors that have been developed be exempt and also be able to merged into the top playing roster when they are developed fully and/or the club wants to put them into the top squad. Its going to be chaos when extra teams be added to the NRL too.

 

[weststigers]

Does anyone remember any other player getting terminated for coming late or other minor indiscretions? Most terminations are due to off field/ legal issues, getting game into disrepute etc.

Obviously no player can be terminated due to lack of performance, lack of fitness etc...

This will all get settled out of court, but just seems like we find a way to have disgruntled ex employees..

Suli comes to mind. Noffa was also doing a bit of that, but it was coupled with some other behaviour, I think even outright refusing to turn up to training.

I don't think the bar for sacking is set by whether you were late a couple of times. Otherwise, we risk having to sack our best players if they are late a few times or risk showing favourable treatment if we don't sack them.

I'd say it is a myriad of things all adding up to the final straw. Some things will be subjective (attitude/effort). Some things will be objective (lateness).

But really....whats new? every season players get moved on for all sorts of things. Lee has just chosen to get in Jordans ear to make a name for himself again. He is quite silly if he goes to court, because he will air his dirty laundry for all to see and he may not come up looking very good after it all. I would certainly think twice about hiring someone that has gone legal on a previous employer. He may really damage his career.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Suli comes to mind. Noffa was also doing a bit of that, but it was coupled with some other behaviour, I think even outright refusing to turn up to training.

I don't think the bar for sacking is set by whether you were late a couple of times. Otherwise, we risk having to sack our best players if they are late a few times or risk showing favourable treatment if we don't sack them.

I'd say it is a myriad of things all adding up to the final straw. Some things will be subjective (attitude/effort). Some things will be objective (lateness).

But really....whats new? every season players get moved on for all sorts of things. Lee has just chosen to get in Jordans ear to make a name for himself again. He is quite silly if he goes to court, because he will air his dirty laundry for all to see and he may not come up looking very good after it all. I would certainly think twice about hiring someone that has gone legal on a previous employer. He may really damage his career.

I doubt it will go to court. Lee talked up a storm after we were robbed in Townsville but he backed down in the end. He is full of bluff and bluster.

 

[hammertime]

I think the more successful clubs give a higher weighting to attitude, footy intelligence and work ethics than what we do. I feel richo is starting to repair some of this.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Surely there’s more to it then just being late to training?

Exactly, if you believe that you’ll believe anything !

 

[tig_prmz]

Suli comes to mind. Noffa was also doing a bit of that, but it was coupled with some other behaviour, I think even outright refusing to turn up to training.

I don't think the bar for sacking is set by whether you were late a couple of times. Otherwise, we risk having to sack our best players if they are late a few times or risk showing favourable treatment if we don't sack them.

I'd say it is a myriad of things all adding up to the final straw. Some things will be subjective (attitude/effort). Some things will be objective (lateness).

But really....whats new? every season players get moved on for all sorts of things. Lee has just chosen to get in Jordans ear to make a name for himself again. He is quite silly if he goes to court, because he will air his dirty laundry for all to see and he may not come up looking very good after it all. I would certainly think twice about hiring someone that has gone legal on a previous employer. He may really damage his career.

I'm sure we can't be terminating a contract for subjective things but can for objective things. I guess if the only objective reason is that he was late a couple of times, it wouldn't be hard to show that there would be some player whose contract wasn't terminated when they were late.

Suli I think was given multiple breaching notices.
Noffa we all know.

Clubs give players permission to negotiate other deals all the time but can't remember a termination because of poor training or performances. Maybe I have a short memory?

 

[liltiger]

I'm sure we can't be terminating a contract for subjective things but can for objective things. I guess if the only objective reason is that he was late a couple of times, it wouldn't be hard to show that there would be some player whose contract wasn't terminated when they were late.

Suli I think was given multiple breaching notices.
Noffa we all know.

Clubs give players permission to negotiate other deals all the time but can't remember a termination because of poor training or performances. Maybe I have a short memory?

Pretty sure your spot on. Though Bateman may be on the outer but pretty sure it sounds like an attitude thing with him. I'm sure there have been players at the Tigers instantly dismissed the only other one from the ones you already mentioned was Craig Field when he got done for Coke if memory serves me correctly. Even McGuinnes was given a second chance when was was done for ecstacy at the same time. I might be mis remembering things though.

 

[weststigers]

I'm sure we can't be terminating a contract for subjective things but can for objective things. I guess if the only objective reason is that he was late a couple of times, it wouldn't be hard to show that there would be some player whose contract wasn't terminated when they were late.

Suli I think was given multiple breaching notices.
Noffa we all know.

Clubs give players permission to negotiate other deals all the time but can't remember a termination because of poor training or performances. Maybe I have a short memory?

Well that's the point. The objective things are the ones that get air time. The subjective stuff either stays private or adds colour to the situation.

Despite what some think, an employer has the right to sack you based on attitude if the right process has been followed, so the subjective things do matter to a degree and on a case by case basis.

The truth us we don't know nearly enough to comment, but it doesn't strike me as the type of indiscretion a club would sack you for if it is legitimately 2 late training sessions. There's way more to it.

 

[tig_prmz]

Well that's the point. The objective things are the ones that get air time. The subjective stuff either stays private or adds colour to the situation.

Despite what some think, an employer has the right to sack you based on attitude if the right process has been followed, so the subjective things do matter to a degree and on a case by case basis.

The truth us we don't know nearly enough to comment, but it doesn't strike me as the type of indiscretion a club would sack you for if it is legitimately 2 late training sessions. There's way more to it.

I personally think it just comes down to precedent. There definitely is more to it but it's whether the reason for termination is a common practice amongst NRL clubs.

I don't think attitude, performance, fitness etc factors into all that.

I've only ever seen contracts terminated for discretions away from football altogether. DUIs, drug use, social media misconduct etc.