Josh Aloiai #190

[cochise]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.


I remember you (or someone else with EXACTLY the same narrative) rolled out that story at the time and it prompted a lot of angst and anti club sentiment. But my memory is that a lot of information subsequently leaked including his signing fee that pretty much refuted this.

That was @tiga4eva


Exactly. Interesting that when you look at his profile and Tiger19, Tiger19 started when tiga4eva left.

I also remember now it was "correspondence" that tiga4eva saw (phone messages). Might be why Tiger19 is so emphatic that his story hasnt been "curated".

I have no doubt he has been told that is what happened, and that it is probably someone's rose coloured perception of what happened.


He either is tiga4eva or has seen the same screencaps and thinks he is in the inner sanctum. tiga4evas story fell apart last time.

I am now grateful that Alioia left, it has enabled a solid cleanout with (potentially) better players, on less money in a better balanced side.

I think if you look at Josh's behaviour it is pretty clear what his intentions were. I do find it interesting that we have people popping up here pushing his version of events though.

 

[cochise]

It is obviously the money.
If Tommy Turbo misses 10+ games (which seems likely due to his lack of hamstrings) Manly can't make finals, he is part of everything they do.

I honestly can't believe they have him at the price point they do and then also turned around and paid us a whack of money to get him early. I guess Des will be Des.

 

[Tiger5150]

It is obviously the money.
If Tommy Turbo misses 10+ games (which seems likely due to his lack of hamstrings) Manly can't make finals, he is part of everything they do.

you have a short memory AT. Its not about the money. Its because JA only got 1 point in the best and fairest last year.

I hope Manly are more generous with the best and fairest or at least hand out a ribbon.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

 

[Geo]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

This site can't be reached...

The domain name needs to be registered

 

[TheDaBoss]

Scum.....

 

[Tiger5150]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

Funny I just went back and trawled through the old Aloiai thread to dig out what happened then. The difference in perspective on management and recruitment to now, in less than 4 months is incredible.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

It is obviously the money.
If Tommy Turbo misses 10+ games (which seems likely due to his lack of hamstrings) Manly can't make finals, he is part of everything they do.

I honestly can't believe they have him at the price point they do and then also turned around and paid us a whack of money to get him early. I guess Des will be Des.

He’s bamboozled by stats . The same guy who thought Aiden Tollman was the best front rower in the game. Sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

It’s hard to argue with . He’s replaced Eisenhuth , Clarke , and Josh , with Tamou , Stefano and Joe O. 2 plodders and a guy who played 1 good season , to our now captain , an origin player off a down year , and the highest rated prop coming through the grades . And that’s just 1 position .

 

[Tiger5150]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

It’s hard to argue with . He’s replaced Eisenhuth , Clarke , and Josh , with Tamou , Stefano and Joe O. 2 plodders and a guy who played 1 good season , to our now captain , an origin player off a down year , and the highest rated prop coming through the grades . And that’s just 1 position .

Matterson =>Blore

 

[jirskyr]

I was told the 24-hour deadline was only given to Aloiai after Tigers got word he was speaking to Manly, and it only applied to the offer that was already in front of him.

It's not like the Tigers gave him a fresh offer with a 1-day take/leave deadline. That just makes no sense - why would Tigers drop such an abrupt and aggressive offer on Aloiai after carefully developing him over so many seasons and different administrations? Esp. with a year remaining on his contract.

I can totally understand that Aloiai may have been aware that other forwards were getting paid more than him, and it may have been upsetting to him. We all know there were/are players in the roster who aren't giving an appropriate return on investment.

HOWEVER you can't just do to your employer demanding to match or beat the salary of someone you "think" you are better than, esp. when that person was signed by a previous coach. I was told that the club originally gave Aloiai an offer that they felt matched his output, status in the club and future potential - and he was stalling in making a decision. Time has shown that Aloiai was stalling because he was negotiating with another club.

Tigers are certainly being much more selective and strict with roster management. On paper this approach is working out on the positive side of the ledger.

 

[mike]

It is obviously the money.
If Tommy Turbo misses 10+ games (which seems likely due to his lack of hamstrings) Manly can't make finals, he is part of everything they do.

I honestly can't believe they have him at the price point they do and then also turned around and paid us a whack of money to get him early. I guess Des will be Des.

He’s bamboozled by stats . The same guy who thought Aiden Tollman was the best front rower in the game. Sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story .

You can say that again. !!!

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

By the time the season kicks off I think it will be a case of JOSH WHO????

 

[hobbo1]

24 sleeps peeps
Let’s keep it civil 😂

 

[Leck]

Another lame, poorly written, FOXbait piece of rubbish article. George Clarke is obviously worried about hitting his quota this week.

Here’s the real story.

Josh and his questionable manager Tyran Smith asked for a big money upgrade based on an ok season from JA - we said no.

Des and Manly scrambled after AFB jumped across the ditch and were willing to pay overs to fill a hole.

Josh got paid, we’ve moved on with a SOO recruit in JO and now everyone lives happily ever after.

The end.

 

[cochise]

I was told the 24-hour deadline was only given to Aloiai after Tigers got word he was speaking to Manly, and it only applied to the offer that was already in front of him.

It's not like the Tigers gave him a fresh offer with a 1-day take/leave deadline. That just makes no sense - why would Tigers drop such an abrupt and aggressive offer on Aloiai after carefully developing him over so many seasons and different administrations? Esp. with a year remaining on his contract.

I can totally understand that Aloiai may have been aware that other forwards were getting paid more than him, and it may have been upsetting to him. We all know there were/are players in the roster who aren't giving an appropriate return on investment.

HOWEVER you can't just do to your employer demanding to match or beat the salary of someone you "think" you are better than, esp. when that person was signed by a previous coach. I was told that the club originally gave Aloiai an offer that they felt matched his output, status in the club and future potential - and he was stalling in making a decision. Time has shown that Aloiai was stalling because he was negotiating with another club.

Tigers are certainly being much more selective and strict with roster management. On paper this approach is working out on the positive side of the ledger.

This

 

[BAGNF05]

With good blokes like the turbos and Sirro at Manly I was really starting to struggle, they even have a zany coach whose press conferences always amuse. Thanks JA for well/truly restoring our hatred for the silver tails.

 

[TheDaBoss]

24 sleeps peeps
Let’s keep it civil 😂

Less

The hitout on saturday should be enough to keep us going...until trials 😁

 

[BalmainJnr]

I believe I know which hit up Packer will take next season that won’t be a decoy. Interesting that the article shared last night on Madge eluded to some players that just weren’t up to it when Madge put the torch to them. It was good of JA to weed himself out looking back on it.