Josh Reynolds

[JC99]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

 

[Deleted member 3518]

JAC didn’t fall through at the last minute, Aloiai was playing games with the club for a little bit of time and Reynolds wasn’t in the clubs plans. Pre season training doesn’t get serious until after Christmas.
We might not make the 8 but if things we have done over this off season pay off then we are looking good for a top 8 finish, if not we still have more money to play with for 22.

I think the Tiger's were quite confident JAC was coming when he signed the Heads of Agreement.

I was saying that the way things happened made it much harder to plan ahead, if they knew they had the money Reynolds, Aloiai, and McIntyre earlier, they may have been able to chase higher quality players. This not a unique problem, it happens at every club.

It is the same as saying Madge bought in players last year so they were his choice. He did not have a healthy salary cap to buy those players, he would have made different choices if he had less money locked up in under performing players that were not his choice. The choices were compromised by the salary cap situation.

They would have known for quite sometime that JAC's interest was elsewhere. I would rather how our off season has played out than if we had of signed JAC, we are in a better position now than we would have been if he signed.

Aloiai is a dog and it took us a week to find a better player, plus we got a healthy payout from Manly for letting him go. If we get Laurie early this is probably our best offseason since leading into 2004. We are heading in the right direction and I expect to see improvements on the field in 2021.

^^this^^ . They pivoted way quicker than I would have thought , to jimmy , Staines and Joe O. I’m sure the Staines thing was in the pipeline for a while , but the Joe o and jimmy thing , happened super fast , especially when you consider the Aloiai stuff happened from the clubs perspective out of left field .

If I was running the club , I’d be looking really hard at Angus. Like extremely hard. I honestly think that’s the real hole in our team . You can carry a young back on 1 wing , in fact , I personally think it’s a good idea for development , we have the fullback we want , especially if the Cini for Staines thing is as real as reported , which really leaves edge backrowers , as MCK is a good bench utility , and, Garner had a down year . Blore is not ready yet fitness wise.

Somehow with less money we have a better team than years gone past .

 

[avocadoontoast]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

There is always player movement from now until the start of the season. A month ago we thought we might get Addo-Carr and re-sign Aloiai. Since then Aloiai is gone, JAC isn't coming and we've signed James Roberts, Joe O and Reynolds is leaving. Things happen extremely fast and i'd be shocked if there wasn't a way we could use our money to bolster out team by round 1.

Even if we don't, I still think this team is good enough to make the 8.

 

[JC99]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

There is always player movement from now until the start of the season. A month ago we thought we might get Addo-Carr and re-sign Aloiai. Since then Aloiai is gone, JAC isn't coming and we've signed James Roberts, Joe O and Reynolds is leaving. Things happen extremely fast and i'd be shocked if there wasn't a way we could use our money to bolster out team by round 1.

Even if we don't, I still think this team is good enough to make the 8.

Until we do sign someone better Reynolds leaving doesn’t change anything really. Always the chance no one good pops up, but hoping they do.

I think our roster is good enough if guys like Roberts and Joey can get back to their best and our rookies have breakout seasons. If not then we will finish 9th-11th again. It’s very contingent on a lot of guys stepping up I feel - but makes for excitement towards the coming season. Keen to see how all the guys go individually and as a team

 

[Deleted member 3518]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

There is always player movement from now until the start of the season. A month ago we thought we might get Addo-Carr and re-sign Aloiai. Since then Aloiai is gone, JAC isn't coming and we've signed James Roberts, Joe O and Reynolds is leaving. Things happen extremely fast and i'd be shocked if there wasn't a way we could use our money to bolster out team by round 1.

Even if we don't, I still think this team is good enough to make the 8.

It’s just a better team . And now we all of a sudden don’t have 5 five -eighths running around in the 17 . Which we did round 1 and 2 .

Doueihi,Mbye,Benji,Reynolds , Walters , for those wondering what I’m saying.
We have actual wingers, in AJ and Nofa , a strike centre combination, that only 2 years ago , very easily could have been the nsw combo. I know they’re both head cases , but they do have the talent , and we do have the coach who has a history of sucking the talent out of guys, if only for a short period of time .

Also Staines , to me , is better than all the fullbacks at the panthers , but I guess he didn’t fit what they wanted and style they play . But he’s the one IMO. Throw in a much better pack , and IMO , a bounce back year for brooks , who was really showing it at the end of the year , and we are good to go . We need to make smart choices now.

If we can’t sign the right player , front load the money June 30, and really open the cap up for the next few years .

 

[Tiger5150]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

There is always player movement from now until the start of the season. A month ago we thought we might get Addo-Carr and re-sign Aloiai. Since then Aloiai is gone, JAC isn't coming and we've signed James Roberts, Joe O and Reynolds is leaving. Things happen extremely fast and i'd be shocked if there wasn't a way we could use our money to bolster out team by round 1.

Even if we don't, I still think this team is good enough to make the 8.

It’s just a better team . And now we all of a sudden don’t have 5 five -eighths running around in the 17 . Which we did round 1 and 2 .

Doueihi,Mbye,Benji,Reynolds , Walters , for those wondering what I’m saying.
We have actual wingers, in AJ and Nofa , a strike centre combination, that only 2 years ago , very easily could have been the nsw combo. I know they’re both head cases , but they do have the talent , and we do have the coach who has a history of sucking the talent out of guys, if only for a short period of time .

Also ***Staines*** , to me , is better than all the fullbacks at the panthers , but I guess he didn’t fit what they wanted and style they play . But he’s the one IMO. Throw in a much better pack , and IMO , a bounce back year for brooks , who was really showing it at the end of the year , and we are good to go . We need to make smart choices now.

If we can’t sign the right player , front load the money June 30, and really open the cap up for the next few years .

I keep seeing Staines name in these discussions. Didnt he just re-sign with Penrith? Laurie is coming here at some stage. Why the Staines discussion?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

There is always player movement from now until the start of the season. A month ago we thought we might get Addo-Carr and re-sign Aloiai. Since then Aloiai is gone, JAC isn't coming and we've signed James Roberts, Joe O and Reynolds is leaving. Things happen extremely fast and i'd be shocked if there wasn't a way we could use our money to bolster out team by round 1.

Even if we don't, I still think this team is good enough to make the 8.

It’s just a better team . And now we all of a sudden don’t have 5 five -eighths running around in the 17 . Which we did round 1 and 2 .

Doueihi,Mbye,Benji,Reynolds , Walters , for those wondering what I’m saying.
We have actual wingers, in AJ and Nofa , a strike centre combination, that only 2 years ago , very easily could have been the nsw combo. I know they’re both head cases , but they do have the talent , and we do have the coach who has a history of sucking the talent out of guys, if only for a short period of time .

Also ***Staines*** , to me , is better than all the fullbacks at the panthers , but I guess he didn’t fit what they wanted and style they play . But he’s the one IMO. Throw in a much better pack , and IMO , a bounce back year for brooks , who was really showing it at the end of the year , and we are good to go . We need to make smart choices now.

If we can’t sign the right player , front load the money June 30, and really open the cap up for the next few years .

I keep seeing Staines name in these discussions. Didnt he just re-sign with Penrith? Laurie is coming here at some stage. Why the Staines discussion?

Sorry my bad . Laurie . I said Staines by accident

 

[weststigerman]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

That is true, but with most clubs completing most of their top 30 and with little salary cap movement we are in a position to offer good young players a top 30 spot.

Penrith would have a few development players that would walk into our top 30, same with Parra.

Hartigan seems to know what he's doing and despite most others not rating him, Mcdonnell has been great at identifying young talent.

 

[Blake]

Please point to where it was said to sack the coach if we don’t make the 8
Douiehi even came out and said not making the 8 is not acceptable…
I can tell you the entire Club demand a top 8 finish this year…the roster is not an excuse

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>With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021…
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>28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team…
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>Not his team won’t fly in 21…

You seem to be saying that salary cap is not an excuse for Madge in 2021, and him not choosing the team is not an excuse for Madge in 2021.

If you were not saying it is Madge's fault if the Tigers don't make the 8 in 2021, what were you trying to say? Did you want to give him a bonus?

Usually saying something is unacceptable means you want something to change, and from you posts it looks like it's Madge. So let's clear it up, if the Tigers don't make the 8, do you think we should sack Madge?

 

[JC99]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

That is true, but with most clubs completing most of their top 30 and with little salary cap movement we are in a position to offer good young players a top 30 spot.

Penrith would have a few development players that would walk into our top 30, same with Parra.

Hartigan seems to know what he's doing and despite most others not rating him, Mcdonnell has been great at identifying young talent.

I’m keen to see what they have up their sleeve. Would love another Luciano type signing.

 

[Geo]

Please point to where it was said to sack the coach if we don’t make the 8
Douiehi even came out and said not making the 8 is not acceptable…
I can tell you the entire Club demand a top 8 finish this year…the roster is not an excuse

>With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021…
>
>28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team…
>
>Not his team won’t fly in 21…

You seem to be saying that salary cap is not an excuse for Madge in 2021, and him not choosing the team is not an excuse for Madge in 2021.

If you were not saying it is Madge's fault if the Tigers don't make the 8 in 2021, what were you trying to say? Did you want to give him a bonus?

Usually saying something is unacceptable means you want something to change, and from you posts it looks like it's Madge. So let's clear it up, if the Tigers don't make the 8, do you think we should sack Madge?

I'm saying the roster is not an excuse not to perform as it has been in the past...you seem to think it is...agree to disagree..

 

[TigerWest]

Please point to where it was said to sack the coach if we don’t make the 8
Douiehi even came out and said not making the 8 is not acceptable…
I can tell you the entire Club demand a top 8 finish this year…the roster is not an excuse

>With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021…
>
>28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team…
>
>Not his team won’t fly in 21…

You seem to be saying that salary cap is not an excuse for Madge in 2021, and him not choosing the team is not an excuse for Madge in 2021.

If you were not saying it is Madge's fault if the Tigers don't make the 8 in 2021, what were you trying to say? Did you want to give him a bonus?

Usually saying something is unacceptable means you want something to change, and from you posts it looks like it's Madge. So let's clear it up, if the Tigers don't make the 8, do you think we should sack Madge?

NO, plus I think we are just about to sign Madge for another 2 years.

Although, it is interesting with our new recruitment system, that the coach seems to be less of an issue now that he is only part of the plan, not all of it, as Cleary was.

 

[TrueTiger]

Please point to where it was said to sack the coach if we don’t make the 8
Douiehi even came out and said not making the 8 is not acceptable…
I can tell you the entire Club demand a top 8 finish this year…the roster is not an excuse

>With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021…
>
>28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team…
>
>Not his team won’t fly in 21…

You seem to be saying that salary cap is not an excuse for Madge in 2021, and him not choosing the team is not an excuse for Madge in 2021.

If you were not saying it is Madge's fault if the Tigers don't make the 8 in 2021, what were you trying to say? Did you want to give him a bonus?

Usually saying something is unacceptable means you want something to change, and from you posts it looks like it's Madge. So let's clear it up, if the Tigers don't make the 8, do you think we should sack Madge?

I'm saying the roster is not an excuse not to perform as it has been in the past...you seem to think it is...agree to disagree..

I honestly think that what Madge and co have done so far is all to the benefit of the club and team...very good work from all concerned..As far as the roster goes and sack Madge if we dont make the 8 is absolutely atrocious thinking..The players,especially the senior ones we have recruited have come from different systems to ours,it will take time for Madge to get them all playing to his style and structures..I do believe he can get JTJ,BJ in the right head space and produce good footy from them,however they all have to gel as a unit and the younger ones have to learn,there will be mistakes and losses but we must have the faith in Madge to get the results...
this team and club are heading in the right direction the real only problem is disgruntled players not wanting to be here the others seem to be on board with what needs to be done to succeed...If you look outside the square looking in you will find most mistakes during play are made by players either overplaying,panicking or desperate to make a mark in the game,once these are erradicated this team will be awesome and exciting to watch and support...Lets leave Madge and co to continue doing the best for the club as they are doing...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

 

[JC99]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

Maybe but parras roster is still strong, they should be beating all the bottom 8 teams at least

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

Maybe but parras roster is still strong, they should be beating all the bottom 8 teams at least

Yeah true, I suppose as long as we beat whomever is in front of us we don't need to worry about what everyone else is doing.

 

[2005magic]

I think the club is light on for halfbacks. I'd to see some of Reynolds $$$$ go to signing a good halfback to pressure Brooks a d provide options. I know we have Maddocks but I think we need more than a rookie if a suitable one can be signed.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

What has happened over the past weeks are all building blocks for 2021 and beyond the Jrey situation was going to happen at the end of season 21 it a bonus it happen now and may assist signing someone a season earlier than expected

 

[Bob]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

 

[phil1986]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

Mate I think your reading that backwards. 😂