Josh Reynolds

[cqtiger]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

I think it means we carry $250k of JReys money in our cap (if he was on the reported $750k)

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

His exit FREEs up $500k.

 

[Spartan117]

I am impressed with the lack of leaks into the media about this until all but the last minute.

Great outcome, happy for JRey and works out well for us.


Well done Wests Tigers management.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I think the club is light on for halfbacks. I'd to see some of Reynolds $$$$ go to signing a good halfback to pressure Brooks a d provide options. I know we have Maddocks but I think we need more than a rookie if a suitable one can be signed.

Mate we just cleared some of our halves , and you want to sign more ? Seriously .... we have AD , Mbye , Brooks , Madden, Walters . That’s a first grade and reserve grade halves pairing , plus 1 more . We don’t need anymore halves , regardless what you think about them .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

His exit FREEs up $500k.

I don’t see why we’d have to. Couldn’t we just pay him that outside the cap, as he’s not going to a team in our direct competition? Because he no longer had an nrl contract .

 

[TheDaBoss]

His try against titans 2018 was a beaut

 

[TigerWest]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

His exit FREEs up $500k.

I don’t see why we’d have to. Couldn’t we just pay him that outside the cap, as he’s not going to a team in our direct competition? Because he no longer had an nrl contract .

Good point, but maybe Hull only offered him the $500k and we need to dip in the rest on our books, as he will still need to be paid his contract money.
BTW, wasn’t he on $850k, so what ever the figure Hull gave him and people are saying $500k, then it would actually be $350k on our books?

 

[Tigerbuck63]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

Is our roster really that much better? We’ve only got 4 new guys in the team and two of them have not been playing well and one is an unproven rookie. If they all perform at their best it’ll improve us but I feel like that’s unlikely.

I’m not trying to make excuses I just don’t feel like that on paper our roster is all that much better than last year. It’s very contingent on all the new guys playing their best and the old guys all improving. That’s on the coaching staff and the players themselves to do that, if they can then we will shock plenty of people that’s for sure

Well agree with your sentiments but i think what we have done better is signing there players on much less $ and shorter deals. Freeing up Reynolds now also adds some cap room.
Overall smart policy with no much player talent really available will we make the 8 next season ????? Let's not put great expectations on it as long younger players develop and we retain them in 2021 with cap space and not get continually poached our best talent.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

Maybe but parras roster is still strong, they should be beating all the bottom 8 teams at least

I have a feeling that Parramatta might struggle to make the 8 next year as well as the sharks. Like Manly losing Turbo this season if they lose Gutterson for an extended time will struggle as others don't step up and Moses over rated.

We lost both games to them last season but were close both times we need to turn that around.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

Maybe but parras roster is still strong, they should be beating all the bottom 8 teams at least

I have a feeling that Parramatta might struggle to make the 8 next year as well as the sharks. Like Manly losing Turbo this season if they lose Gutterson for an extended time will struggle as others don't step up and Moses over rated.

We lost both games to them last season but were close both times we need to turn that around.

I fancy our chances against Parra. I think they're on the decline.

 

[851]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

His exit FREEs up $500k.

I don’t see why we’d have to. Couldn’t we just pay him that outside the cap, as he’s not going to a team in our direct competition? Because he no longer had an nrl contract .

Good point, but maybe Hull only offered him the $500k and we need to dip in the rest on our books, as he will still need to be paid his contract money.
BTW, wasn’t he on $850k, so what ever the figure Hull gave him and people are saying $500k, then it would actually be $350k on our books?

We have already paid him some of his $750K salary, as the contracts start at November 1, which means $62,500 per month, so we have at least paid around $90,000 already

 

[Cairnstigers]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

His exit FREEs up $500k.

I don’t see why we’d have to. Couldn’t we just pay him that outside the cap, as he’s not going to a team in our direct competition? Because he no longer had an nrl contract .

Would be good if we could
Give Josh Reynolds some of Josh Aloiai’s release money
Keep the extra on our cap
If possible of course

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Paper saying we still take on 500k of his salary in next years cap...

“The Tigers have been hamstrung in recent seasons by big-money deals handed out to senior players who, for various reasons, have failed to deliver on their pay packets. Reynolds’ exit frees up approximately $500,000 in the Tigers’ cap next year, giving them more purchasing power on the open market.“

His exit FREEs up $500k.

I don’t see why we’d have to. Couldn’t we just pay him that outside the cap, as he’s not going to a team in our direct competition? Because he no longer had an nrl contract .

Good point, but maybe Hull only offered him the $500k and we need to dip in the rest on our books, as he will still need to be paid his contract money.
BTW, wasn’t he on $850k, so what ever the figure Hull gave him and people are saying $500k, then it would actually be $350k on our books?

To me it just screams ;
step 1- over inflate players salary on signing with new team. Either to pump up a manger , or denigrate the new team.
Step 2 - bag club for underperforming player , in meantime , throw an extra 150k on original price to ram home point
Step 3 - when player leaves said club , now quote the actual amount , never mentioning the crazy numbers you pretended were real for 4 years .

 

[Lauren]

Congrats Grub, thanks for your service and wish you the best of luck in your new endeavour!!

 

[sleeve]

I think our roster is much stronger in the forwards.Tahmu and OJ wil give us that steel we missed.Steffano and Bore more additions to a young pack on the way up,plus 2 hookers.If you look at player profiles you will see,this is a huge pack.ITS the backs that are the concern.Can Brooks and doeihi combine and be effective ?Can the Jet come back ?Can Leilua perform? Who is fulback? We have superior training and develoment staff this year,STILL A LOT OF IFS.GO TIGERS

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

Maybe but parras roster is still strong, they should be beating all the bottom 8 teams at least

I have a feeling that Parramatta might struggle to make the 8 next year as well as the sharks. Like Manly losing Turbo this season if they lose Gutterson for an extended time will struggle as others don't step up and Moses over rated.

We lost both games to them last season but were close both times we need to turn that around.

I fancy our chances against Parra. I think they're on the decline.

Wow , if that’s true they didn’t have much of an up ? 2 season then back to the cellar for you ...

 

[851]

I hope Grub kills it over there, he gave his all, we played our best footy with him at 6 this year, he got paid very well and probably has no complaints, but he also got some rough treatment from the club to appease a so called club legend

 

[avocadoontoast]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

Maybe but parras roster is still strong, they should be beating all the bottom 8 teams at least

I have a feeling that Parramatta might struggle to make the 8 next year as well as the sharks. Like Manly losing Turbo this season if they lose Gutterson for an extended time will struggle as others don't step up and Moses over rated.

We lost both games to them last season but were close both times we need to turn that around.

I fancy our chances against Parra. I think they're on the decline.

Wow , if that’s true they didn’t have much of an up ? 2 season then back to the cellar for you ...

Haha let's hope so!

 

[turkeytiger03]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

I think maybe Bellamy, Robertson, Arthur and Stuart have completely their own teams to start with.

What about Penrith, Souths, Cronulla and Newcastle Russ?

I think the 4 I mentioned with coaches that have their own complete team have surpassed the the ones you mentioned where the coach does not have their own complete team.

The other successful team - Souffs - have the supposed "Master coach" who only goes where he can win a comp, and then leaves them in disarray (looking forward to him doing that to Souffs).

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The others made the 8, Titans came 9th (coach in first year), Warriors came 10th (coach joined mid season).

I don't care about last season though, I care about 2021, and there should be no excuses anymore, especially with Reynolds now gone too.

Not trying to argue any other points, but Does Reynolds leaving change anything? It all depends on who replaces him and at this point there’s no one decent available. Most likely the money is used on rookies and our current players unless someone good pops up

There is always player movement from now until the start of the season. A month ago we thought we might get Addo-Carr and re-sign Aloiai. Since then Aloiai is gone, JAC isn't coming and we've signed James Roberts, Joe O and Reynolds is leaving. Things happen extremely fast and i'd be shocked if there wasn't a way we could use our money to bolster out team by round 1.

Even if we don't, I still think this team is good enough to make the 8.

It would all seem that this club revolves around all players who’s first name is either Josh or starts with J ???

 

[OzLuke]

I'd go as far to say that unless a stray North Korean missile hits the team bus, anything less than 8th is not acceptable next year. Madge and Hartigan have made a concerted effort to improve the roster. Stacked in the outside backs and front row/lock. A few options in the halves and the only place we lack is second row and fullback (Mbye is a reasonable short term option here if they coat his hands in super glue.)

Only teams I see dropping out of the 8 are sharks and knights, we’ll have to compete with quite a few other clubs to try take that spot. It won’t be easy at all to make it but if we can play our best consistently we can do it

I don't know about that, I reckon Parra could implode. Jenko gone for PED's, signed Cartwright, Ferguson wasn't a patch on seasons gone by. Souths are still thin up front too, a few injuries among the back 5 and they come well back to the pack.

I expect us, Manly and the Schoolies to all be thereabouts for a top 8 spot.

Maybe but parras roster is still strong, they should be beating all the bottom 8 teams at least

I have a feeling that Parramatta might struggle to make the 8 next year as well as the sharks. Like Manly losing Turbo this season if they lose Gutterson for an extended time will struggle as others don't step up and Moses over rated.

We lost both games to them last season but were close both times we need to turn that around.

I fancy our chances against Parra. I think they're on the decline.

I have the same instinct about this too....I think that the players they lost, the players they signed and some of their aging talent it's time for them to plummet to where they belong....in the gutter