Judgement of Potter

[batboy]

Although I quite like Mick, I also find myself wondering how much of the
Form shown when we were at full strength is on the back of his coaching?
- Maybe we just have a really talented side when it's on the park?
And maybe Mick is just a really nice guy….

 

[Tigersmurf]

I see what you are saying batboy, but it appears that when the team is getting thrashed it is bad coaching, and when we were beating the competition heavyweights it was luck and natural talent.

I was not convinced when we beat Manly and Souths, I thought our underbelly was still soft and that has poven true once we had some adversity. But I don't think anyone could get results coaching this team given its current predicament both on and off the field.

 

[supercoach]

No coach will turn this club around without the club making major changes across the whole football operation.I think the only way Potter could get a new contract is if we actually put a director of coaching/football operations in place but I am sure that will not happen with our coffers bordering on empty. So it will be interesting who will get the gig, one things for certain they will have to pay at least double what they are paying now to have any chance of getting of getting a decent coach. Most assistant coaches would be on more money than Potter

 

[Geo]

No coach will turn this club around without the club making major changes across the whole football operation.I think the only way Potter could get a new contract is if we actually put a director of coaching/football operations in place but I am sure that will not happen with our coffers bordering on empty. So it will be interesting who will get the gig, one things for certain they will have to pay at least double what they are paying now to have any chance of getting of getting a decent coach. **Most assistant coaches would be on more money than Potter**

And there lies the problem….you pay peanuts you get monkeys...pound for pound with the budget Potter has at his disposal he has done a very decent job....

I would like to judge him if he was given the resources of a Manly Brisbane Roosters Souths or Bulldogs budgets....

I find it rather amusing that people think a change of Coach will turn around our fortunes given the new Coach will inherit the same financial constraints...it's laughable

 

[balmain boy]

Potter simply can't stay on next year. His mere presence will ensure all this crap we've been through this year will continue. Does Robbie like him? Does he really have the backing of the players? or management? etc…

We need a clean slate free of all this drama and that means potter has to go. 99% sure he will. His tactics and team selections have also been highly questionable.

So Balmain Boy you are clearly blaming Potter for the club's problems by saying if he stays the crap will continue. I can't disagree more.
There is no evidence whatever that Mick Potter has been behind and of the 'crap' as you put it. Indeed he has done his dead level best to just keep his eye on the football and stay out of the crap.
Potter has the full backing of Robbie Farah and the players. They have said so numerous times lately. Does he have the backing of the board? That one looks like its an each way bet But who cares? The board looks like a certifiable basket case.
We do need a clean slate, but Potter is not the problem. Look higher up the feed trough.
And finally; I like the way you attack Potter's actual job "tactics and team selections" almost as a footnote without any justification whatever. The truth is, the team was sailing pretty nicely early in the season before injuries and origin took their toll.
Take another look. Yes Wests Tigers has big problems but Potter aint it.

Actually i never said that all of this is actually Potter's fault. It's the media who will keep banging away at him and the club until one of them is out of sight. Having constant sensationalist media
writing crap about our club just isn't what's needed.

We could give Potter a 3 year contract and there will still be questions asked publicly about his relationship with key stakeholders and the support that he holds. The media won't give up on this issue. It's sad but the media (and those from senior club positions who have been feeding the media) are responsible for his eventual sacking. Agendas don't have reason or rationality. The public largely believe what they read.

Potter's position is untenable.

 

[supercoach]

Geo–-Its been going on since 1908, sack the coach is how you rectify a bad season. The only good thing with us, this whole thing has been played out in the media so the spotlight is shinning brightly on our club and I think blind Freddie knows their much bigger problems than our coach that need to be addressed .

Although I get the feeling Potter will fall and like you who ever gets the gig I just hope they are supported with the resources they require and that includes money

 

[NT_Tiger]

I don't buy that at all Balmain Boy.
If there is no-one within the higher echelons of this club leaking their agendas to the media, then the media will drop it. No leak, no story, especially if the players are truthful in their support for Potter and their results show (as they did early in the season) on the field. Agendas may well have no reason or rationality but those pushing theirs within the club believe that they do. The reason could well be simply to undermine this coach to install another one. I don't see that as inevitable or worse still desirable, because if that happens the club has failed to deal with its biggest problem/s. The NRL board changes can't come early enough for me.
I do not see Mick Potter's position as untenable for the very reasons I mentioned in my earlier post. He is doing his job, well enough and with dignity without fuelling the inevitable media you are talking about. He is doing exactly what we need him to do both with the team and with the media.
What I hope is that whoever continues to undermine this team from on high is the one that's position is untenable. Again sack the trouble makers not the scapegoat.

 

[TrueTiger]

:smiley: @ NT Tiger..great post and I think you have hammered it,Potter is the scapegoat for some other persons irresponsibilities,that is undermining the coach and club.The sooner their weeded out the better ….WestsTigers now and forever

 

[Swordy]

I think the media are hammering this club because they are being fed information by someone who wants to destabilise for their own agenda.

Farah has nothing to GENUINE to gain by destabilising and I'm not sure he has the support or the ear of anyone in the media. In fact I'm sure he hasn't!

Mayer has even less to gain, even though he could get media support and does so from time to time.

Potter has absolutely nothing at all to gain, so we can be sure it isn't him.

Leaves the Chairman and/or the board - who have many things to gain, scores to settle, jobs to protect, enemies to revenge, developers to appease, the list goes on.

I think therein lies the answer. To blame Potter for anything or hold him responsible is in itself irresponsible, silly and a complete waste and time.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Well said Swordy. That pretty much sums up my view.