Just how good is Luke Brooks?

[bonstonker]

my big problem with brooks last year was how bad he was in the 2nd half of games.
either non existent or just plain bad execution.

while you want a forward pack on top,you don't always get that,and there were plenty of periods throughout games when they were doing enough for their halves to show more.
if you need a pack to dominate every time,you obviously aren't that great.

my concern going forward is do brooks and mosses have the work ethic monday to friday to be great,or just nrl players.

 

[stevetiger]

my concern going forward is do brooks and mosses have the work ethic monday to friday to be great,or just nrl players.

You can't outwork talent. The question is do they have the ability. I think Moses looked likely last year but that won't cut it this year. They both have to perform as quality NRL players.

 

[bonstonker]

the streets are littered with people that had the talent.

 

[stevetiger]

the streets are littered with people that had the talent.

There are a lot lot more that didn't have the talent that don't make it compared to those that didn't work hard enough.

 

[bonstonker]

you don't have the debut brooks had at that age and not have talent.
do you honestly believe he doesn't.

 

[stevetiger]

you don't have the debut brooks had at that age and not have talent.
do you honestly believe he doesn't.

I like him but there is a difference between where he is now and kicking on and becoming a great player. I hope he can do it but we will have to wait and see. I think it's much more likely that he (and Moses) don't have the talent then they don't work hard enough.

 

[Black_n_White]

I think Brooks biggest hurdle is at present is a lack of time, not occasionally, but for the vast majority of games.

Our two best players are our biggest offenders… Robbie and Woods. Robbies service was painfully slow last year, and although Woods is a metre eating machine, I am positive oppositions have figured out to conceed the metres knowing he will fight tooth and nail post contact, which slows down the PTB and allows defensive lines to be reset.

Our generally poor ruck IQ across the board puts him under alot of pressure.

 

[stevetiger]

I agree that Robbie's service needs to improve as does his all over game. He just didn't get out of dummy half much last year or create as many chances as he has in the past.

 

[westTAHger]

Luke Brooks reminds me of Phil Blake.
Great talent, but something just seems to be holding him back.

 

[greatodensraven]

He's 21\. Give him a chance.

 

[Newtown]

This season WT have some very capable halves waiting for a chance at first grade. Taylor is now in his second season with the club and towards the end of last season he showed indications that as far as player selection in first grade is concerned he follows the adage of you are only as good as your last game.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I think Brooks biggest hurdle is at present is a lack of time, not occasionally, but for the vast majority of games.

Our two best players are our biggest offenders… Robbie and Woods. Robbies service was painfully slow last year, and although Woods is a metre eating machine, I am positive oppositions have figured out to conceed the metres knowing he will fight tooth and nail post contact, which slows down the PTB and allows defensive lines to be reset.

Our generally poor ruck IQ across the board puts him under alot of pressure.

Apart from "our two best players", sadly I agree with the rest. Speedy service or lack of it has been a problem for a lonnnnnnnng time. Oh for the ball simply being passed off the ground from the ruck.

 

[stevetiger]

I think Brooks biggest hurdle is at present is a lack of time, not occasionally, but for the vast majority of games.

Our two best players are our biggest offenders… Robbie and Woods. Robbies service was painfully slow last year, and although Woods is a metre eating machine, I am positive oppositions have figured out to conceed the metres knowing he will fight tooth and nail post contact, which slows down the PTB and allows defensive lines to be reset.

Our generally poor ruck IQ across the board puts him under alot of pressure.

Apart from "our two best players", sadly I agree with the rest. Speedy service or lack of it has been a problem for a lonnnnnnnng time. Oh for the ball simply being passed off the ground from the ruck.

I'll be interested how Woods and Robbie go this year. They both need to really improve on last year. Woods less so than Robbie.

 

[supercoach]

I think Brooks biggest hurdle is at present is a lack of time, not occasionally, but for the vast majority of games.

Our two best players are our biggest offenders… Robbie and Woods. Robbies service was painfully slow last year, and although Woods is a metre eating machine, I am positive oppositions have figured out to conceed the metres knowing he will fight tooth and nail post contact, which slows down the PTB and allows defensive lines to be reset.

Our generally poor ruck IQ across the board puts him under alot of pressure.

Apart from "our two best players", sadly I agree with the rest. Speedy service or lack of it has been a problem for a lonnnnnnnng time. Oh for the ball simply being passed off the ground from the ruck.

I'll be interested how Woods and Robbie go this year. They both need to really improve on last year. Woods less so than Robbie.

Yeh Woods had a shocker last year…thats why he got the Dally M for Prop of the year

 

[Tim Sheens]

Come along to TTS get together Perkins…. We can talk about it over a drink lunch and the game... You too Dempsey

Well only ever know just how good Brook s is when he gets a go forward pack going forward

Yeah, the more the merrier at Cambo for TT's meet up, at least I hope that would be the case.

Brooks is already a first grader performance wise and the best we have had in that position for some time. He still has bum fluff on his chin and it is not his job to be a defensive enforcer, though he needs to improve that area somewhat.

If he does not improve following another off season then he can look at the few clubs that will take him at this level or just take up his option and stay with us. If he improves as I expect, then WT will have to up the ante to keep him.

Either way, I ecxpect that Moses will be more important to keep and will have CEO's tripping over each other to get his signature.

 

[Demps]

I also see Moses being the better of the pairing, don't know why…
Seems more a natual leader, a talker and a gutsier player.

Not a bad thing for Brooks though,
If he can steer the team around and do what he has to do whilst Moses brings the spark.... it could be a lethal duo.

 

[innsaneink]

I also see Moses being the better of the pairing, don't know why…
Seems more a natual leader, a talker and a gutsier player.

Not a bad thing for Brooks though,
If he can steer the team around and do what he has to do whilst Moses brings the spark.... it could be a lethal duo.

Moses is more an extrovert… Brooks the opposite... I think they just need regular go forward from the pigs

 

[supercoach]

I also see Moses being the better of the pairing, don't know why…
Seems more a natual leader, a talker and a gutsier player.

Not a bad thing for Brooks though,
If he can steer the team around and do what he has to do whilst Moses brings the spark.... it could be a lethal duo.

Different Personalities, Moses is very confident,likes the lime light, can handle himself in front of the media,backs himself 100% and not scared to experiment.

Brooks,seems to be a lot more reserved, not so good with the lime light and the media and seems to be a lot more structured as a player.

Put them together and you have the perfect match

 

[happy_tiger]

And again I guess my question like the Sironen /Lovett thread is when do we draw a line through potential / outcome

Moses /Brooks /Sironen /Sue /Ava /Simona / Lovett /Cherrington / Nofoaluma

You can't spend a career relying on potential and you need to know when to cut your losses

 

[Geo]

This was going well…Funs Over...

Makes for much better discussion when people debate the post and not the poster plus deleting posts is a pain...

Agree with Happy above ..potential needs to turn into performance...I have a feeling Brooks will do that this year....