keepers

@red88_tiger said in [keepers](/post/1465177) said:
@boonboon said in [keepers](/post/1464829) said:
Tom Mikaele. When most today made ni effort he made 140 meters and 33 tackles.

A few handling errors here and their but he makes more meters per run and per minute then any of our forwards and has had a 93% tackle effectiveness.

Was very lazy in defence in his first stint before he went off for a hia.

This is one of the problems drip feeding players gave Mikaele a one yr contract .. WHY. he is a good reggie injury replacement that’s it ! Not selected every week .,
 
The sooner all and sundry realise that 95% of this current team are fringe first graders the better and many of the listed keeps fall into this category !
 
@tigerwest said in [keepers](/post/1465128) said:
@tigersj said in [keepers](/post/1465109) said:
Regarding the hooker/dh position in the current game.......
Just watch the hookers in the better teams and what they bring in value, structure in both A and D. The quality guys are running the team and plays as much as the halves. They are choosing where the ball goes, passing long and short, out in front and off the ground, they are making incisive runs and dictating ruck speed, they are bringing runners on to the ball or running to the line and ball playing, some are kicking well out of dh. They are leading the D and making the most tackles in a game every week.
Hate to say this but Liddle is well short of this. Capable of 1 or 2 decent breaks, **but goes missing at dh more than any other hooker in the NRL and often for 2-3 tackles in the same set.** His service is poor and passing game non existent, his D is questionable, his fitness is low, he can’t kick the football at all. I am not being nasty but honestly if we are looking at gaping faults in our squad and why we can’t compete, surely our spine is a good place to start.
Everybody has been riding Brooks, and rightly so, but compared to the top teams we have been short a decent full back and 5/8 for most games of this season as well. Laurie and AD might have played well enough a few times but both have a long way to go also.

Is this factual? or are you making it up?

After Simpkin went off with his shoulder injury i was watching various players go into dh and was wondering where is Liddle. It happened a few times yesterday but it’s not the first time. The same thing has been happening all season- it seems like a stamina or fitness issue. Once he gets tired his passing gets worse as well.
 
@gnr4life said in [keepers](/post/1464864) said:
@benjic said in [keepers](/post/1464855) said:
laurie is like correy thompson

Thompson is a smarter player. Criminal that we let him go.

He wanted out - Got a good deal....
What can you do.

Realistically - he's 110% effort player, but has plenty of deficiencies in the modern game.
He wouldn't really be first choice winger at most clubs...
 
@tyga said in [keepers](/post/1464870) said:
Utoikamanu, Douihei, Blore, Twal, Laurie, Maumalo, Simpkin, Simpkins, Tuilagi, Madge, Luciano.

Get rid of tomorrow Brooks, Liddle, Tamou, Cini, Nofa, BJ, Chee Kam, Jet, Amone,

We need to bring in 5 Solid players to this roster to change anything.

We need to get rid of anyone that’s been here for a long time and not delivered. Nofa and Brooks are first out of concord. Tamou has to retire.

Pretty much agree with both lists, although Luciano would be getting drilled in the off season with defensive work.

Whomever is defensive coach should also be following those guys out the door.
 
@boonboon said in [keepers](/post/1464829) said:
Tom Mikaele. When most today made ni effort he made 140 meters and 33 tackles.

A few handling errors here and their but he makes more meters per run and per minute then any of our forwards and has had a 93% tackle effectiveness.

He straightened his running a lot as well.
 
Tuilagi
Doueihi
Stefano
Laurie
Twal
Seyfarth
Blore
Luciano
Liddle

Don't waste your time telling me why Liddle Luciano or Seyfarth don't deserve to stay I won't agree
 
@cultured_bogan said in [keepers](/post/1465382) said:
@tyga said in [keepers](/post/1464870) said:
Utoikamanu, Douihei, Blore, Twal, Laurie, Maumalo, Simpkin, Simpkins, Tuilagi, Madge, Luciano.

Get rid of tomorrow Brooks, Liddle, Tamou, Cini, Nofa, BJ, Chee Kam, Jet, Amone,

We need to bring in 5 Solid players to this roster to change anything.

We need to get rid of anyone that’s been here for a long time and not delivered. Nofa and Brooks are first out of concord. Tamou has to retire.

Pretty much agree with both lists, although Luciano would be getting drilled in the off season with defensive work.

Whomever is defensive coach should also be following those guys out the door.


Do we have a defensive coach.
 
@bathursttiger1 said in [keepers](/post/1465427) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [keepers](/post/1465382) said:
@tyga said in [keepers](/post/1464870) said:
Utoikamanu, Douihei, Blore, Twal, Laurie, Maumalo, Simpkin, Simpkins, Tuilagi, Madge, Luciano.

Get rid of tomorrow Brooks, Liddle, Tamou, Cini, Nofa, BJ, Chee Kam, Jet, Amone,

We need to bring in 5 Solid players to this roster to change anything.

We need to get rid of anyone that’s been here for a long time and not delivered. Nofa and Brooks are first out of concord. Tamou has to retire.

Pretty much agree with both lists, although Luciano would be getting drilled in the off season with defensive work.

Whomever is defensive coach should also be following those guys out the door.


Do we have a defensive coach.

We shouldn't as of today.
 
Keepers for mine

Laurie
Maumalo
AD
Stef
Twal
Blore
LL
Tuilagi

The meh...may as well keep
Simpkin
Simpkins
Liddle
Twal
Mikaele
Joffa


The should goes
Noffa (last two three games he has been better)
Talau
Cini
MCK
Tamou
 
@tyga said in [keepers](/post/1464870) said:
Utoikamanu, Douihei, Blore, Twal, Laurie, Maumalo, Simpkin, Simpkins, Tuilagi, Madge, Luciano.

Get rid of tomorrow Brooks, Liddle, Tamou, Cini, Nofa, BJ, Chee Kam, Jet, Amone,

We need to bring in 5 Solid players to this roster to change anything.

We need to get rid of anyone that’s been here for a long time and not delivered. Nofa and Brooks are first out of concord. Tamou has to retire.

I keep Liddle out of the List.
 
Keepers
Doueihi
Laurie
Stef
Simpkin
Tuilagi
Maumalo
Blore

Unpopular opinion, but I really think Luciano is either a bench player or nothing. He cannot play 80, and is ineffective most of the time, in defence and attack. In short spurts, he may be effective but I have hated watching him play. He doesn't inspire confidence no matter how likeable he comes across. Oh and theres a reason the 2020 wooden spooners did not want Joe Ofa. Yikes.
 
These are my “keepers”. I like Liddle and Lucy but don’t know if they are what’s required to move forward. Mikaele and Offa very disappointing seasons.

- Stefano - number 1 priority
- Laurie - shown heart and promise, needs to work on areas to go next level
- Doueihi - see Laurie (above)
- Blore - 244 tackles (4 missed), much needed defensive starch on edge. Will do better if he doesn’t get premeditated Brooks hospital balls
- Tuilagi - good strong young player, lot of upside.
- Simpkin - solid without being spectacular, a few years younger than Grant and Starling who are naturally a few years better developed physically and mentally
- Seyfarth - controlled the ruck well in his last game and hits hard in D. Has passion and heart. My most improved this year (not many improvers though)
- Twal - finished the year with 7 straight missed tackleless games. 869 tackles, 13 missed. Can’t have a pack of Twals but he plays big minutes and is reliable. Prefer in prop over lock though.
- Maumalo - lacks opportunity from inside. Is doing what Nofa used to do
 
@tigerbalm said in [keepers](/post/1465422) said:
Nuffa is a keeper for four more seasons. Let that sink in.

Chuck in Musgrove as well for 3. Unless he has fallen of this mortal coil
 
Blore has nailed down that edge spot for 80min......

Lucy needs to go to another level or he is benched
 

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