Kelma Tuilagi Signs With Manly

Mighty_Tiger said:
Do I want it to happen - heck no, just trying to work through the reality of how bad a situation we are in unless new recruits come onboard (Kids or external). When he played lock before his injury he was actually decent.

Twal isn't slow, he does have speed issue is he stops at the line to position himself for a quick play the ball which sees him get bent back.
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He's definitely the slowest player in our top 30, and that's saying something seeing we're the slowest team in the comp.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Do I want it to happen - heck no, just trying to work through the reality of how bad a situation we are in unless new recruits come onboard (Kids or external). When he played lock before his injury he was actually decent.

Twal isn't slow, he does have speed issue is he stops at the line to position himself for a quick play the ball which sees him get bent back.
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Twal had some great footwork last week
 
balmain boy said:
Surely the thread title should be updated to include [rumour]

Tigers are reviewing their offer, but manly have overpaid him. We won't match it, but how close are we willing to go is the question. He'd take a bit less to stay, but not 100-150k less.
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So there is a chance he still stays if we increase the offer?
 
What was the outcome of Joseph Tapine being off contract 2023. Did he resign with Canberra.
He would be exactly the type of player I would want to replace Kelma.
 
Cobarcats said:
What was the outcome of Joseph Tapine being off contract 2023. Did he resign with Canberra.
He would be exactly the type of player I would want to replace Kelma.
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Replacing a 5 gamer with a proven wrecking ball. Like wanting us to replace Simpkin with Cameron Smith
 
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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Yep and that’s been our stock play for years.
Boring and easy to shut down.
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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Some good points there Tiger.
We seem to get from our try line to the opposition try line ok and score enough points.
It's our D that's the problem and the more effective your D is, you actually defend less and attack more. Stats will prove that with teams like Melbourne. They always seem to be attacking.
I agree our last play option is often predictable and we should chance our arm a bit more.
I think a new general out there in Hastings might get the forwards running onto the ball better with accurate passing, putting them into gaps and directing play.
I believe it is what we do at second receiver that is important.
Having bodies in motion around him is paramount and mix up the kick chase.
Kicking down the fullbacks throat annoys me, make him work.
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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No questions asked of the dedence
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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Agree totally SJ. The defense doesn't even get tired when playing us. They just send 3 blokes out of the line to hit our single man hit up. Its a joke. Steph was getting smashed again last week because its to predictable. If the game plan thrown up last week is anything to go by for the season Madge wont last long.
 
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