Kiwis knock Australia off No.1 ranking..

@Geo. said:
@pHyR3 said:
by that logic, tell **QLD to piss off** and start their own competition since barba and milford went back home as well after being developed elsewhere.

2nd best thing ever written on the Forum.. :laughing:

Some truly good ideas

If NZ and Qld leave the NRL it would quickly become the No 3 rugby league comp behind the Qld Cup and NZ Cup

And that my friends would be Karma at its finest
 
I'm happy for the Kiwis, it's great for the game. They deserve to be number one. The Aussies will now have to re-group and respond to the challenge and not take winning for granted anymore.
 
@pHyR3 said:
@Tiger Watto said:
You are still failing to see the NZRL is the problem…

They do NOTHING!

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you've legitimately got no idea about international RL and thinking about the good of the game. i'm stoked people like you are no longer in charge of running the NRL.

another one with no clue…

What does the NZRL do that benefits International Rugby League?

They cant get a Local Comp off the ground which has any clout to keeps local talent there.
They no longer provide funding for the Warriors to play in the Australian Competition.
They only recruit the players for there national team who have been trained and developed through the Australian & UK System to represent them.
They never put there hands up to host the World Cup or Four Nations. [without ARLC Money]
They still cant seem to organise a State Of Origin style competition or something which is similar. [This type of event has been called for by NZ Nationals for over a decade, but nothing is ever done].

Countries like Samoa, PNG & Fiji do more for the international game than the NZRL!

#freeloaders
 
@pHyR3 said:
by that logic, tell QLD to piss off and start their own competition since barba and milford went back home as well after being developed elsewhere.

Qld Teams play in the Australian National Competition… In case your simply stupid, Qld is in Australia, New Zealand isnt?! :crazy
 
Before some of you go off your rockers at Watto and myself , **I am not (and I'm sure Watto is the same) having a go at the Kiwi players - it's the NZRL that is the problem.**
On one hand we have people saying they have no money and then people saying they are getting massive corporate support.
It's not hard to look at their annual reports and see how much they devote to the development of the game.
As for whoever wrote the article AHX posted saying that the NRL could soon be the No1 sport in NZ - then they have obviously never been to New Zealand where the All Blacks are gods.
 
Agreed… My issue is with the NZRL not players. Although, I still think Taupau is a bum when he plays for NZ, much like Farah & Woods when they play for the Blues.

Where does RL rate in the Australian landscape?

At a guess, I'd suggest Cricket or AFL would be our number 1 sport? If so, it means RL could be third?

Hard work and vision has seen RL grow in Australia to the heights it is at. We have done most of the hard lifting while other nations have rode off the back of our efforts.

They need to do more!

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@cktiger said:
Before some of you go off your rockers at Watto and myself , **I am not (and I'm sure Watto is the same) having a go at the Kiwi players - it's the NZRL that is the problem.**
On one hand we have people saying they have no money and then people saying they are getting massive corporate support.
It's not hard to look at their annual reports and see how much they devote to the development of the game.
As for whoever wrote the article AHX posted saying that the NRL could soon be the No1 sport in NZ - then they have obviously never been to New Zealand where the All Blacks are gods.

Where did anyone say the NZRL gets massive corporate support

The Warriors will be because they are the only recognizable aspect of NZRL

The NZRL are in a lose lose situation

They spend millions to try and keep their local players local and the NRL teams will still pinch them

Do you both get that ??
 
@happy tiger said:
@cktiger said:
Before some of you go off your rockers at Watto and myself , **I am not (and I'm sure Watto is the same) having a go at the Kiwi players - it's the NZRL that is the problem.**
On one hand we have people saying they have no money and then people saying they are getting massive corporate support.
It's not hard to look at their annual reports and see how much they devote to the development of the game.
As for whoever wrote the article AHX posted saying that the NRL could soon be the No1 sport in NZ - then they have obviously never been to New Zealand where the All Blacks are gods.

Where did anyone say the NZRL gets massive corporate support

The Warriors will be because they are the only recognizable aspect of NZRL

The NZRL are in a lose lose situation

They spend millions to try and keep their local players local and the NRL teams will still pinch them

Do you both get that ??

Of course… But that is there problem because of years of freeloading.

You understand better than most, but there position is no different to that of the old BRL after years of being rapped by the cashed up Sydney clubs... The Q Cup is now a very reputable and profitable competition after years of vision & hard work.

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The difference is the Qld Cup gets support from the NRL Watto

The NZRL gets nothing from the NRL , the Warriors do

They are two completely different entities , one is in the NRL

The other is an international Rugby League body
 
@cktiger said:
Before some of you go off your rockers at Watto and myself , **I am not (and I'm sure Watto is the same) having a go at the Kiwi players - it's the NZRL that is the problem.**
On one hand we have people saying they have no money and then people saying they are getting massive corporate support.
It's not hard to look at their annual reports and see how much they devote to the development of the game.
As for whoever wrote the article AHX posted saying that the NRL could soon be the No1 sport in NZ - then they have obviously never been to New Zealand where the All Blacks are gods.

I'd have to agree completely with you in the respect that the number 1 ranking has very little to do with the NZRL, and more to do with the NRL. In fact what I would question is how much it has do to do with the Warriors? There was a ad played at the start of this season saying, there were 14 NZers in the NSWRL (as the NRL was then) in 1994 now there are 118(?) in 2015\. (the figure was around there). Not all of them have come through the Warriors, not even half. So yes we do piggyback on the NRL but the NRL also needs NZ.
What could the NZRL do to improve the game in NZ? I don't know, a lot has been tried but really nothing has captured the sports followers imagination. It's NRL or nothing for the average fan. I'd even say most people who call themselves RL fans in NZ would not even know where there local club is. They would have a NRL team and there kids would play RU or Soccer (I'm going by people I know). This is why I laugh when people suggest another team in Wellington.
Auckland is slightly different however it is still well behind club RU
 
@happy tiger said:
The difference is the Qld Cup gets support from the NRL Watto

The NZRL gets nothing from the NRL , the Warriors do

They are two completely different entities , one is in the NRL

The other is an international Rugby League body

The Q Cup gets support from the ARLC, not the NRL. The funding is very minor, and it generates 80% of its own revenue.

The NRL should stop funding to the Warriors to force the NZRL to do more. Maybe force them to match dollar for dollar and then these freeloaders may have a right to be playing in our national comp. At present, the Warriors are drawing funding which could be diverted to another Australian franchise to grow our competition to being truly national.

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@Tiger Watto said:
Agreed… My issue is with the NZRL not players. Although, I still think Taupau is a bum when he plays for NZ, much like Farah & Woods when they play for the Blues.

Where does RL rate in the Australian landscape?

**At a guess, I'd suggest Cricket or AFL would be our number 1 sport? If so, it means RL could be third?\
\
Hard work and vision has seen RL grow in Australia to the heights it is at.** We have done most of the hard lifting while other nations have rode off the back of our efforts.

They need to do more!

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I always felt pre 1994 RL was ahead of AFL and growing faster (Before SL War). So surely it has slipped? In fact I feel you guys have the same problems at grass roots we do, clubs struggling for players, fielding less teams etc. NRL is popular and very little below? Or is that just what certain journalist's what to portray?
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@pHyR3 said:
@Tiger Watto said:
You are still failing to see the NZRL is the problem…

They do NOTHING!

_Posted using RoarFEED 4.2.0_

you've legitimately got no idea about international RL and thinking about the good of the game. i'm stoked people like you are no longer in charge of running the NRL.

another one with no clue…

What does the NZRL do that benefits International Rugby League?

They cant get a Local Comp off the ground which has any clout to keeps local talent there.
They no longer provide funding for the Warriors to play in the Australian Competition.
They only recruit the players for there national team who have been trained and developed through the Australian & UK System to represent them.
They never put there hands up to host the World Cup or Four Nations. [without ARLC Money]
They still cant seem to organise a State Of Origin style competition or something which is similar. [This type of event has been called for by NZ Nationals for over a decade, but nothing is ever done].

Countries like Samoa, PNG & Fiji do more for the international game than the NZRL!

#freeloaders

I've always wondered about just why they haven't , at least, tried to organise a North Island vs South Island origin of their own instead of wanting to be included in ours.
Even if ( as it would be) it is a smaller success than ours at the a start. It would probably get bigger and bigger, as kiwi friends have spoken about a fair rivalry between islands.
They say that supporters have wanted it for a long time,
It could be televised here as well in NZ( plent of audience here)
Even if the NRL had to help get it started, surely they have someone who could organise what should be a no brainer success and give League something that Union doesn't have.
If they can organise a 9s tournament, they should be able to organise three games per year
 
So it was okay for Kiwi's to play in this country when they were losing, but don't dare try beating us, you people need to know your place. Arrogant and arguably racist. The bigotry is strong with some of you lot.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
So it was okay for Kiwi's to play in this country when they were losing, but don't dare try beating us, you people need to know your place. Arrogant and arguably racist. The bigotry is strong with some of you lot.

Not 1 player in the NZ National Team plays in a NZ Competition. This in itself is an embarrassment to NZ & RL. How anyone could think these freeloaders are doing anything positive for RL is laughable. Shit, they even have an Australian company sponsoring them?!

Its much like the Socceroos were in Australia in the 80's/90's. Now the Socceroos have representation from the Australian National Competition, they have alot more respect internationally.

If the NZRL arent prepared to invest into the game, the NRL should kick them out of the Australian Competition and redirect those funds into a new Franchise in greater Australia.

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@Tiger Watto said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
So it was okay for Kiwi's to play in this country when they were losing, but don't dare try beating us, you people need to know your place. Arrogant and arguably racist. The bigotry is strong with some of you lot.

Not 1 player in the NZ National Team plays in a NZ Competition. This in itself is an embarrassment to NZ & RL. How anyone could think these freeloaders are doing anything positive for RL is laughable. s***, they even have an Australian company sponsoring them?!

Its much like the Socceroos were in Australia in the 80's/90's. Now the Socceroos have representation from the Australian National Competition, they have alot more respect internationally.

If the NZRL arent prepared to invest into the game, the NRL should kick them out of the Australian Competition and redirect those funds into a new Franchise in greater Australia.

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So why weren't people complaining about this when Australia were dominating at international level? Must not have been an important talking point.
 
I've been calling for this over the past 5 years… I see no reason funding a team in a location which does nothing for the development of the game.

I'd rather fund a country like Fiji or PNG. At least those countries are doing something!

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