Kiwis knock Australia off No.1 ranking..

[cktiger]

You don't make money by sitting on your arse and doing nothing!

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

**I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto**

Who cares.
Watto is right - they are just bludging off the NRL who they expect to do all the coaching and development for them.
I disagree with some of you about needing to build internationally when our greatest threat is internally from the AFL.
They would be more than happy to be the undisputed No 1 football code in Australia.

 

[happy_tiger]

You don't make money by sitting on your arse and doing nothing!

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

**I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto**

Who cares.
Watto is right - they are just bludging off the NRL who they expect to do all the coaching and development for them.
I disagree with some of you about needing to build internationally when our greatest threat is internally from the AFL.
They would be more than happy to be the undisputed No 1 football code in Australia.

How many kids can the NZers retain CK and Watto ??

If they had the choice they wouldn't let all the clubs raid them mercilessly

Blame the salary cap , don't blame the NZRL

NRL clubs are doing this

Even if the NZRL created a junior rugby league academy , many kids would still come to Australia , many don't get that

 

[kiwitiger]

You don't make money by sitting on your arse and doing nothing!

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

**I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto**

Who cares.
**Watto is right - they are just bludging off the NRL who they expect to do all the coaching and development for them.**
I disagree with some of you about needing to build internationally when our greatest threat is internally from the AFL.
They would be more than happy to be the undisputed No 1 football code in Australia.

Wouldn't that mean kicking all NZers out of the NRL not just the Warriors?

 

[Tiger_Watto]

You don't make money by sitting on your arse and doing nothing!

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto

Thats there problem Happy…

These blokes won the 2005, 2010, 2014 Tri/Four Nations & the 2008 World Cup.

Are you telling me no one over there was smart enough to run a Sausage Sizzle???

They are bludgers and do nothing!

 

[happy_tiger]

You don't make money by sitting on your arse and doing nothing!

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

**I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto**

Who cares.
**Watto is right - they are just bludging off the NRL who they expect to do all the coaching and development for them.**
I disagree with some of you about needing to build internationally when our greatest threat is internally from the AFL.
They would be more than happy to be the undisputed No 1 football code in Australia.

Wouldn't that mean kicking all NZers out of the NRL not just the Warriors?

Don't use logic KiwiTiger , its wasted on these two

One thinks Moltzen will be the next immortal

The other think the rugby league world revolves around some inbred RL club out at Cooparoo which named itself after a dance company or a board game

 

[hobbo]

You don't make money by sitting on your arse and doing nothing!

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto

Thats there problem Happy…

These blokes won the 2005, 2010, 2014 Tri/Four Nations & the 2008 World Cup.

Are you telling me no one over there was smart enough to run a Sausage Sizzle???

They are bludgers and do nothing!

Lmao
:roll
I'm sure the 'Mad Butcher' would disagree with you their Watto !
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[cktiger]

You don't make money by sitting on your arse and doing nothing!

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

**I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto**

Who cares.
**Watto is right - they are just bludging off the NRL who they expect to do all the coaching and development for them.**
I disagree with some of you about needing to build internationally when our greatest threat is internally from the AFL.
They would be more than happy to be the undisputed No 1 football code in Australia.

Wouldn't that mean kicking all NZers out of the NRL not just the Warriors?

I'm not against Kiwis playing here but if you look at even the most recent signings for the Warriors you can understand why NRL clubs in Australia are unhappy.
The development effort and money put into players like Tuivasa-Sheck and Luke walks out the door because they want to go home in (Tuivasa-Sheck's case he is Samoan anyway).
Nothing wrong with wanting to go home either - but why to play against the teams you walk away from?
Start your own competition NZ!
In regards to international football at present the Kiwis come to the NRL (and its junior system) and receive the best training and coaching available.
We then turn them loose against us lol
Like training another army to fight against you.
It's about time the NZRL pulled their finger out, stopped riding on the NRL's back, and did something more positive than putting on the 9's tournament.

 

[happy_tiger]

But its the clubs fault CK

Can't you see that

They won't stop recruiting NZ boys

The Warriors will just get stronger and stronger , the more big business backs the Warriors the more TPA's they will get for big signings

They need a 2nd team , that will be the answer , the NZRL will be forced to do more

 

[Tiger_Watto]

You are still failing to see the NZRL is the problem…

They do NOTHING!

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[kiwitiger]

Actually the 9's is run by a private company Duco (?) very little or nothing to do with the NZRL. There is a local competition Involving all the main centres in NZ, one goes or cares. Losses millions a year. Even domestic RU comps in NZ lose money.
And this is the problem, RL is a minor sport in NZ. Netball is much bigger! League is not even played in schools here in Wellington. The NZRU has had it band in schools long ago. And they have made sure no schools will change that.
Before the late 80's RL was not even in the sports news on TV. In fact I'd say at work more people get enjoyment out of the Warriors losing than winning. With the average sports fan ( not RL fan) they are not popular, and neither is the sport ( it's known by many as state house rugby)

 

[kiwitiger]

Just to give you guys an idea, Rugby and Cricket are bigger games obviously, but so is Netball, these games get most of the sponsorship $ along with Olympic sports like rowing, yachting etc. RL is run more on the amateur lines here in NZ (some paid positions, but a lot of volunteers). Even some board members of the NZRL were not paid not long ago, so you don't always get the best people. Jim Doyle who was CEO of NZRL before going to the NRL was actually appointed by the government to that position because the NZRL needed bail out money.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Its obviously worse than I thought… But None of those factors are reason we should let them bleed off our competition.

If its that bad, maybe they should simply go play netball.

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[kiwitiger]

I think Watto in all honesty if the warriors went RL would die in NZ, except for a few diehards. The NRL is what keeps it going, and is the only coverage that makes mainstream media. But don't you think likes of Martin Tapau make the NRL more exciting? Because without the warriors people like him will play super rugby as that is all they will be exposed to over here

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The force the Warriors have the potential of being is off the charts. And not just because of their signings next yr, for the last 5 yrs they've had the best juniors in the comp, that never seem to take the next leap. If they did though, watch out.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I think Watto in all honesty if the warriors went RL would die in NZ

Don't let a couple people who can't handle the fact the Aussies aren't no 1 anymore drag you into a debate about something that's not happening.

 

[pHyR3]

You are still failing to see the NZRL is the problem…

They do NOTHING!

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you've legitimately got no idea about international RL and thinking about the good of the game. i'm stoked people like you are no longer in charge of running the NRL.

 

[pHyR3]

They are a distant second in NZ as far as Rugby Union is concerned

**I don't where you think the NZRL would have any profits to spend Watto**

Who cares.
**Watto is right - they are just bludging off the NRL who they expect to do all the coaching and development for them.**
I disagree with some of you about needing to build internationally when our greatest threat is internally from the AFL.
They would be more than happy to be the undisputed No 1 football code in Australia.

Wouldn't that mean kicking all NZers out of the NRL not just the Warriors?

I'm not against Kiwis playing here but if you look at even the most recent signings for the Warriors you can understand why NRL clubs in Australia are unhappy.
The development effort and money put into players like Tuivasa-Sheck and Luke walks out the door because they want to go home in (Tuivasa-Sheck's case he is Samoan anyway).
Nothing wrong with wanting to go home either - but why to play against the teams you walk away from?
Start your own competition NZ!
In regards to international football at present the Kiwis come to the NRL (and its junior system) and receive the best training and coaching available.
We then turn them loose against us lol
Like training another army to fight against you.
It's about time the NZRL pulled their finger out, stopped riding on the NRL's back, and did something more positive than putting on the 9's tournament.

by that logic, tell QLD to piss off and start their own competition since barba and milford went back home as well after being developed elsewhere.

 

[Geo]

by that logic, tell **QLD to piss off** and start their own competition since barba and milford went back home as well after being developed elsewhere.

2nd best thing ever written on the Forum.. :laughing:

 

[AmericanHistoryX]


Forget the debate about whether the power base of rugby league is Sydney or Brisbane. It’s rapidly shifting to New Zealand.

It’s the game’s greatest breeding ground of talent, the national team is starting to dominate the once-invincible Kangaroos, within three years the Warriors will win an NRL premiership and we need to start making plans now for Wellington to join the competition in the not-too-distant future.

Rather than fear Kiwi dominance, we should embrace it.

Soon order will be restored where international football, rather than State of Origin, will again be the pinnacle of the sport.

If anyone should be fearful it should be the New Zealand Rugby Union. Super Rugby ratings and attendances across the Tasman are waning. If the NRL does things right, rugby league could one day soon be the No. 1 sport in New Zealand.

WORLD RANKINGS: It’s official — Kiwis are rugby league’s No.1
The NRL must capitilize on the succss of the New Zeakand national team. Picture Chris Hyd

Matt Johns says the NRL must capitalise on the success of the Kiwis.

The NRL needs to take control and be responsible in how it continues to promote and grow the game. Not just in New Zealand, but also in areas of tremendous growth like Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea.

At the moment it’s a one-way relationship — they provide the talent and our clubs steal it.

The NRL needs to have a serious look at who is in charge of developing the game in the Pacific nations and how it’s being grown.

We can’t have club scouts and player managers just turning up in these developing countries and stock piling the talent for their own gain. It’s immoral and it does nothing for the game in that country.

The inclusion of the PNG Hunters in Queensland’s Intrust Super Cup competition is a brilliant move. They have immediately been a force. But most importantly, they have created a clear path for youngsters in a country where incentive in life is of utmost importance.

But there’s still huge gains to be made in New Zealand.

The success of rugby league across the ditch has, in the past, had too much to do with the success or the failings of the Warriors.

 

[Russell]


Forget the debate about whether the power base of rugby league is Sydney or Brisbane. It’s rapidly shifting to New Zealand.

It’s the game’s greatest breeding ground of talent, the national team is starting to dominate the once-invincible Kangaroos, within three years the Warriors will win an NRL premiership and we need to start making plans now for Wellington to join the competition in the not-too-distant future.

Rather than fear Kiwi dominance, we should embrace it.

Soon order will be restored where international football, rather than State of Origin, will again be the pinnacle of the sport.

If anyone should be fearful it should be the New Zealand Rugby Union. Super Rugby ratings and attendances across the Tasman are waning. If the NRL does things right, rugby league could one day soon be the No. 1 sport in New Zealand.

WORLD RANKINGS: It’s official — Kiwis are rugby league’s No.1
The NRL must capitilize on the succss of the New Zeakand national team. Picture Chris Hyd

Matt Johns says the NRL must capitalise on the success of the Kiwis.

The NRL needs to take control and be responsible in how it continues to promote and grow the game. Not just in New Zealand, but also in areas of tremendous growth like Tonga, Samoa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea.

At the moment it’s a one-way relationship — they provide the talent and our clubs steal it.

The NRL needs to have a serious look at who is in charge of developing the game in the Pacific nations and how it’s being grown.

We can’t have club scouts and player managers just turning up in these developing countries and stock piling the talent for their own gain. It’s immoral and it does nothing for the game in that country.

The inclusion of the PNG Hunters in Queensland’s Intrust Super Cup competition is a brilliant move. They have immediately been a force. But most importantly, they have created a clear path for youngsters in a country where incentive in life is of utmost importance.

But there’s still huge gains to be made in New Zealand.

The success of rugby league across the ditch has, in the past, had too much to do with the success or the failings of the Warriors.

When you say…

"At the moment it’s a one-way relationship — they provide the talent and our clubs steal it".

Don't you mean - they supply the raw talent and we develop it, train it, give it the nowse, spend the money on it and then lose the result of our labours.

TVS is a case in point - bought him along, groomed him (especially Minacello in the off season) and guess what....

I know we don't care because it is the Rorters. Not the point. It is the situation not the team involved.