Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14

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@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386638) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386636) said:
BJ is absolutely shot.

Either does not care OR has absolutely nothing left.

Crashes over for a try... classic Joey. Bludges all game then comes up with a great play. Great pass from Simpkin too

That is literally all he offers...the barge over from 5 m.

He is barely even bothering to grab on defense...looks 15 kilos overweight.
 
@elleryhanley said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386643) said:
@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386638) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386636) said:
BJ is absolutely shot.

Either does not care OR has absolutely nothing left.

Crashes over for a try... classic Joey. Bludges all game then comes up with a great play. Great pass from Simpkin too

That is literally all he offers...the barge over from 5 m.

He is barely even bothering to grab on defense...looks 15 kilos overweight.

No 1 is going to sign him possibly super league but really why would sign him he offers nothing poor attitude
 
@elleryhanley said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386643) said:
@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386638) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386636) said:
BJ is absolutely shot.

Either does not care OR has absolutely nothing left.

Crashes over for a try... classic Joey. Bludges all game then comes up with a great play. Great pass from Simpkin too

That is literally all he offers...the barge over from 5 m.

He is barely even bothering to grab on defense...looks 15 kilos overweight.

Joey's days in the centres are gone. If he wants to revive his career he needs to shift to the second row and improve his fitness, heart and engine.

If he doesn't do that I can't see him getting a new contract with us or any other club.
 
Well down 24-12 at half time, not looking great. But the two cheap tries we scored and keeping us in it. Less errors and penalties, and we should win.
 
https://www.nswrl.com.au/draw/nsw-cup/2021/round-14/eels-v-magpies/

Am I reading it correctly in that we missed a penalty goal too?
 
@lauren said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386697) said:
https://www.nswrl.com.au/draw/nsw-cup/2021/round-14/eels-v-magpies/

Am I reading it correctly in that we missed a penalty goal too?

44 metres out apparently at full time.
 
@weststigerman said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386701) said:
@lauren said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386697) said:
https://www.nswrl.com.au/draw/nsw-cup/2021/round-14/eels-v-magpies/

Am I reading it correctly in that we missed a penalty goal too?

44 metres out apparently at full time.


Darn...
Thanks, has he been working with Halligan at all?
 
Was a good attempt too. Was under the cross bar. We bombed a gr8 opportunity with 2 mins to go but a great 2nd half performance to come back
 
Madden's kicking in general has been poor all game. ZDC has more to offer than Madden in the halves.
Watching these forwards today you can see why they aren't quite ready for NRL, even Tuilagi just doesn't seem to have the work rate.
General lack of intensity and effort from them has lost them that game.
 
@tigersj said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386707) said:
Madden's kicking in general has been poor all game. ZDC has more to offer than Madden in the halves.
Watching these forwards today you can see why they aren't quite ready for NRL, even Tuilagi just doesn't seem to have the work rate.
General lack of intensity and effort from them has lost them that game.

How was Joey in the forwards?
 
@southerntiger said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386575) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1386223) said:
Anyone know the story re Madden?

Seems strange he was not chosen to cover for Mbye / Walters has been very poor and clearly not fit, definitely not very mobile.

Is Jock hurt?

He suffers from being rubbish. Hasnt had a passable game all year.

:flushed: :thinking_face: :joy: :joy: :joy:
 
Next year will be very interesting, I know we are going really well in Jersey Flegg and koe cup, not sure hartigan, Gardiner and Madge has got it right atm, cini- why are we playing him at fullback, will never play fullback at nrl level at any club he’s to slow for that position, talau- up until the age of 14 he played second row, got moved to five eight at 14/15 cause his father coached Harold Matt’s at Canterbury, never ever did he show a glimpse of the pace required to played centre or wing in nrl, actually feel sorry for this bloke, our inability to identify what he looks like as a player going forward isn’t helping him. So we sign ken Mamalo, so we are effectively saying Fitzgibbon, cooper, cini, Hoffman, the kid they bought from qld in the centres (who by the way hasn’t shown he’s better than anyone we already had at the club, player manager purchase that one imo), they must all be looking for a new club because our recruitment suggest to me they won’t be playing nrl next year with mamalo, gildart ( doesn’t matter how this bloke goes he will be playing fog not Reggie’s), and then you have the kids in Jersey Flegg, kei( was told we won’t be keeping him on dev contract next year), field( interesting to see what we do with this kid, smart between the ears but slow), Dillon ( apparently turned down parramatta and Penrith at start of the year to stay with us, but on sat at Merrylands I was told by a parent of a parramatta player he won’t be with us next year, Mavoni, Liu, hill, fuatimu and Ogden who looks impressive, just not sure the recruitment boys have it right at the moment, really interesting next couple of weeks moving forward.
 
@sly said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1388399) said:
Next year will be very interesting, I know we are going really well in Jersey Flegg and koe cup, not sure hartigan, Gardiner and Madge has got it right atm, cini- why are we playing him at fullback, will never play fullback at nrl level at any club he’s to slow for that position, talau- up until the age of 14 he played second row, got moved to five eight at 14/15 cause his father coached Harold Matt’s at Canterbury, never ever did he show a glimpse of the pace required to played centre or wing in nrl, actually feel sorry for this bloke, our inability to identify what he looks like as a player going forward isn’t helping him. So we sign ken Mamalo, so we are effectively saying Fitzgibbon, cooper, cini, Hoffman, the kid they bought from qld in the centres (who by the way hasn’t shown he’s better than anyone we already had at the club, player manager purchase that one imo), they must all be looking for a new club because our recruitment suggest to me they won’t be playing nrl next year with mamalo, gildart ( doesn’t matter how this bloke goes he will be playing fog not Reggie’s), and then you have the kids in Jersey Flegg, kei( was told we won’t be keeping him on dev contract next year), field( interesting to see what we do with this kid, smart between the ears but slow), Dillon ( apparently turned down parramatta and Penrith at start of the year to stay with us, but on sat at Merrylands I was told by a parent of a parramatta player he won’t be with us next year, Mavoni, Liu, hill, fuatimu and Ogden who looks impressive, just not sure the recruitment boys have it right at the moment, really interesting next couple of weeks moving forward.

Thanks for the info. The club is trying to do a very difficult task, rebuilding yet trying to remain competitive. There is very little reward in the NRL for a rebuild, just look at Brisbane.

I think us missing out on some top level signings has really hurt as it may have given us a year or two to allow these players to develop and they may understand that. Instead we've filled some of their positions with average NRL players, which, to a youngster, tells them they have been overlooked and need to seek a chance elsewhere. I think they need to find a chance for Dillon to show his stuff but he'll never take Laurie's position as it currently stands. Don't know why Cini hasn't been given another NRL shot either.
 
@sly said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1388399) said:
Next year will be very interesting, I know we are going really well in Jersey Flegg and koe cup, not sure hartigan, Gardiner and Madge has got it right atm, cini- why are we playing him at fullback, will never play fullback at nrl level at any club he’s to slow for that position, talau- up until the age of 14 he played second row, got moved to five eight at 14/15 cause his father coached Harold Matt’s at Canterbury, never ever did he show a glimpse of the pace required to played centre or wing in nrl, actually feel sorry for this bloke, our inability to identify what he looks like as a player going forward isn’t helping him. So we sign ken Mamalo, so we are effectively saying Fitzgibbon, cooper, cini, Hoffman, the kid they bought from qld in the centres (who by the way hasn’t shown he’s better than anyone we already had at the club, player manager purchase that one imo), they must all be looking for a new club because our recruitment suggest to me they won’t be playing nrl next year with mamalo, gildart ( doesn’t matter how this bloke goes he will be playing fog not Reggie’s), and then you have the kids in Jersey Flegg, kei( was told we won’t be keeping him on dev contract next year), field( interesting to see what we do with this kid, smart between the ears but slow), Dillon ( apparently turned down parramatta and Penrith at start of the year to stay with us, but on sat at Merrylands I was told by a parent of a parramatta player he won’t be with us next year, Mavoni, Liu, hill, fuatimu and Ogden who looks impressive, just not sure the recruitment boys have it right at the moment, really interesting next couple of weeks moving forward.

Corey Thomas, the Langer Cup Schoolboy winner from Marsden SHS, played for Balmain in the SG Ball. Although he appears to have played 5/8 for Balmain, he won the award at fullback. He is very quick and if you read about him, built a reputation using his pace in defence.
 
Yeah it’s a hard one going forward and you can’t keep all the kids that show promise coming through, but My question is I’ve seen live about 5 jersey flegg and koe cups games this year, IMO opinion we are not promoting players properly through the grades like other clubs. On sat we played a front rower in flegg who is overweight and couldn’t make a dint actually he is that cumbersome he literally fell over himself a couple of times, and he is so unfit and lazy, low and behold a day later he’s playing koe, so we reward a guy who slow and a massive liability in defence in flegg, but for instance say a scolari who’s leading try scorer or a Dillon who by the way was ordinary yesterday but makes at least 4 to 5 breaks a game, they don’t get moved up in there positions , I don’t think anybody in flegg could go into nrl this year, it’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying I still don’t think we are getting our player development right.
 
@sly said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 14](/post/1388450) said:
Yeah it’s a hard one going forward and you can’t keep all the kids that show promise coming through, but My question is I’ve seen live about 5 jersey flegg and koe cups games this year, IMO opinion we are not promoting players properly through the grades like other clubs. On sat we played a front rower in flegg who is overweight and couldn’t make a dint actually he is that cumbersome he literally fell over himself a couple of times, and he is so unfit and lazy, low and behold a day later he’s playing koe, so we reward a guy who slow and a massive liability in defence in flegg, but for instance say a scolari who’s leading try scorer or a Dillon who by the way was ordinary yesterday but makes at least 4 to 5 breaks a game, they don’t get moved up in there positions , I don’t think anybody in flegg could go into nrl this year, it’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying I still don’t think we are getting our player development right.

I would very much like to see the hard workers, guys like Dillon and Scolari get more of a go - when they're on, they excel in Flegg and would handle KOE. From what I've seen of Kei this season, he's been disappointing - doesn't go looking for a lot of dirty work. Mavoni has plenty of talent but needs to work on his fitness. Ogden is an absolutely must-keep and Fautimao also looks good. It's very much a balancing act though and hopefully Kimmorley's inclusion will help moving into next year and beyond.
 

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