Kurtis Rowe [Discussion]

Well one way or the other we will get answers

If he is up to it we know to keep him for the future

If he isn't up to it , we know we need to look for a better back up for Teddy
 
@Sabre said:
With words would have been a good start. something more constructive maybe?

No problems

With the three performances I have seen he has been the worst player on the park bar none.

* Constantly out of position allowing huge yardage and many 40/20's to opposition kickers. A few times you can understand but unless it is kicked straight to him he has struggled.

* Returns the ball in a fashion that makes Tim Moltzen look like Taniela Tuiaki. This is the most disappointing aspect of his game considering it was such a strong part of his NYC arsenal.

* Surrenders at the line on inside balls rather then trying to hit the hole.

* Has been very, very quiet in terms of organising the defensive line.

* Has missed approximately 80% of the tackles he has attempted.
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I hope that when he goes up the level he blows other teams off the park, I want him to succeed however based on form alone, not talent, his promotion is puzzling.

We all want him to succeed though
 
Well if nothing else his game will be a great point of interest. It was a surprise to me that he was picked, especially after all the years of Sheens selections.

I can't say I've noticed him in the games I've seen his teams play - at least not like Tedesco made me sit up and take note the first time I saw him on the field - but there seems to be varying claims as to Rowe's ability so as Happy said, looks like we'll find out one way or the other.

Good luck young fella.
 
Well he is getting his go this Saturday, he didn't represent the Junior Kiwis for no reason. Wish him luck and hope he can rip in.
 
I have seen all the Reggies games this year and i really think Rowe is still trying to find his feet in the NSW cup, tries are alot harder to come by and the contact is 1st grade level. There have been numerous tries by the oposition where he has been the last line of defence, and he simply struggles to hold up or stop the ball from getting to the ground (Teddy would of stopped 90% of them) and occasionally throwing in a boot every now and then. The kid has a lot of potential but given the situation we're in it's sink or swim! Hoping he can prove me wrong..
 
@smeghead said:
@Sabre said:
With words would have been a good start. something more constructive maybe?

No problems

With the three performances I have seen he has been the worst player on the park bar none.

* Constantly out of position allowing huge yardage and many 40/20's to opposition kickers. A few times you can understand but unless it is kicked straight to him he has struggled.

* Returns the ball in a fashion that makes Tim Moltzen look like Taniela Tuiaki. This is the most disappointing aspect of his game considering it was such a strong part of his NYC arsenal.

* Surrenders at the line on inside balls rather then trying to hit the hole.

* Has been very, very quiet in terms of organising the defensive line.

* Has missed approximately 80% of the tackles he has attempted.
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I hope that when he goes up the level he blows other teams off the park, I want him to succeed however based on form alone, not talent, his promotion is puzzling.

We all want him to succeed though

Aye, if criticism from one person derails Rowe's future, then he is doomed. He is supposed to perform in spite postings of steaming poop on the interwebs.
 
@barra said:
Well if nothing else his game will be a great point of interest. It was a surprise to me that he was picked, especially after all the years of Sheens selections.

I can't say I've noticed him in the games I've seen his teams play - at least not like Tedesco made me sit up and take note the first time I saw him on the field - but there seems to be varying claims as to Rowe's ability so as Happy said, looks like we'll find out one way or the other.

Good luck young fella.

There's no comparison between Teddy and Rowe , but you replace fullbacks with fullbacks

If something doesn't come instinctively when you are fullback , you are doomed especially at this level

If he fails he fails , and we know that we need to start looking for another fullback or place our hopes that Farrell will be ready in a few years

But as I said earlier , if anyone has three on ones coming at him all day the front line hasn't done its job

That's why it made sense to keep the backline as stable as possible and take the risk on Rowe , not the other way round

Rowe will only need to do the simple things right in my eyes and he has done his job

Plenty of talk from the back , safe under the high ball , and good positionally in defence

JT can make the best fullbacks look bad with his kicking game

I reckon he will go OK , but if people go in with expectations he will crack 200 m with 8 line breaks , 3 try assists and plant blokes in defence all the way back to Leichardt they could be disappointed

The other thing is our coach is an ex fullback , he will put him straight what his expectations are

Good luck young fella

Back yourself , play positively and play aggressively ,attack the ball and if it seems right it probably is
 
Courtesy of the official Wests Tigers website:

Kurtis Rowe ready for NRL debut

Wed 9th April, 04:19PM

Not even the usually shy Kurtis Rowe could hide his excitement of finally making his NRL debut for Wests Tigers this weekend against the North Queensland Cowboys.

The New Zealand under-20 international fullback will run out for his first match of first-grade this weekend due to an injury to regular fullback James Tedesco, and spoke of his desire to repay the faith shown in him by Wests Tigers NRL Head Coach Mick Potter.

“I’m just really excited,” Rowe said. “When I got told the good news on Monday, the first thing I did was ring my mum — she was probably more excited than me!

“It’s always been a childhood dream [to play first-grade] so I’m really excited.”

The thrill of making his making his debut will be made even sweeter by the fact that the former Australian Schoolboys fullback will be taking the field with players like Luke Brooks and David Nofoaluma, whom he went through the Club’s NYC system with for two years.

“We had some real good combinations happening there in the under-20’s so hopefully we can continue that in the NRL… I can’t wait to see what happens,” he said.

“I’m feeling good and confident and I’m ready to rip in.”

Potter was flowing in his praise of Rowe earlier in the week, and said that he had no hesitation in naming the 21-year-old as Tedesco’s replacement.

“Kurtis will do a good job, he has been going really well in NSW Cup,” Potter said. “He is fast, has really good endurance and good vision.”

“He’s been working right through the pre-season with us and he is a player that is sort of a little bit quiet and unassuming but gets about his business really well,” Potter said.

A product of Keebra Park High School, Rowe turned heads with two superb seasons in the NYC competition, where he scored 38 tries in 45 games. The wiry fullback has continued that form into 2014 with a number of strong performances for the Club’s NSW Cup squad, and earned similarly high praise from State Cup Head Coach Paul Fletcher.

“I know he won’t let anyone down,” said Fletcher.

“His support play and awareness of the game and where the ball is in play and things like that are excellent. He can score a try and make a break, and I know that the team isn’t going to lose anything with Kurtis at the back.

“He’s worked hard over the last years to get this shot and I’m more than happy for him. I can’t wait to see him get out there and show him what he’s got.”

Saturday will no doubt hold plenty of emotions for Rowe — particularly with his parents making their way all the way from the Gold Coast to Campbelltown Sports Stadium — but the No. 1 is remaining grounded and focusing solely on doing his job like normal.

That’s just the kind of guy that Kurtis is: quiet, calm and focused on the task ahead.

“I’m just preparing my normal game — trying to take it all in up to Saturday," he said.

“I just want to do my job.

“Get in and get it done — that’s all I want.”
 
@Joshu@tigertown said:
I have seen all the Reggies games this year and i really think Rowe is still trying to find his feet in the NSW cup, tries are alot harder to come by and the contact is 1st grade level. There have been numerous tries by the oposition where he has been the last line of defence, and he simply struggles to hold up or stop the ball from getting to the ground (Teddy would of stopped 90% of them) and occasionally throwing in a boot every now and then. The kid has a lot of potential but given the situation we're in it's sink or swim! Hoping he can prove me wrong..

That was my take on his performances this year,even the comeback against the warriors where he scored a late try,but I too hope he can rise to the occasion,good on Potter for replacing a fullback with another fullback,not moving 5 players like Sheen's use to do.
Although I would not have minded Simona or Noffo back there with Lulia or Koro coming in to the team.
 
@smeghead said:
@Sabre said:
With words would have been a good start. something more constructive maybe?

No problems

With the three performances I have seen he has been the worst player on the park bar none.

* Constantly out of position allowing huge yardage and many 40/20's to opposition kickers. A few times you can understand but unless it is kicked straight to him he has struggled.

* Returns the ball in a fashion that makes Tim Moltzen look like Taniela Tuiaki. This is the most disappointing aspect of his game considering it was such a strong part of his NYC arsenal.

* Surrenders at the line on inside balls rather then trying to hit the hole.

* Has been very, very quiet in terms of organising the defensive line.

* Has missed approximately 80% of the tackles he has attempted.
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I hope that when he goes up the level he blows other teams off the park, I want him to succeed however based on form alone, not talent, his promotion is puzzling.

We all want him to succeed though

I'm sure you have seen more of him than I have, and I generally trust your judgement on up and comers.
Kurtis seems like an interesting one, I remember a year or so ago people saying he wasn't far behind Tedesco in terms of ability, but obviously since then Teddy has gone to another level. Hopefully over the next 6 weeks Rowe will relish the opportunity and do the same. As long as he does a reliable job I'll be happy.
 
Hopefully Harry tells him that, barring a catastrophic debut, the fullback jersey is his for the next six or however many weeks til Teddy is fit to play. I've seen very little of him previously so I'm withholding judgment and hopefully the young fella goes hard and shows some pride in the jersey, can't ask for much more.

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Judging by reports from people who have watched NSW Cup, he has been very ordinary, so this is a surprise.

I think Potter has gone for minimal disruptions (a nice change from Sheens) but I'm worried about this one.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
Judging by reports from people who have watched NSW Cup, he has been very ordinary, so this is a surprise.

I think Potter has gone for minimal disruptions (a nice change from Sheens) but I'm worried about this one.

Agree 100%! With Sheens in the past we'd prob end up with a second rower in the #1 lol. Rowe just needs to back himself and his abilities and the rest will take care of itself, who knows!?.. It will be a massive boost for his confidence and hopefully spark him back into try scoring FB
 
I put money on him scoring a try heh. I have a feeling he will lift for the occasion, what motivation! Just a feeling though.
 
Wests Tigers debutant Kurtis Rowe making his own name but remembering another

Date
April 12, 2014 - 1:21AM
Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter

When Kurtis Rowe runs onto Campbelltown Sports Stadium on Saturday for his NRL debut, he will think of all of the people who helped him get there.

There's his parents, Greg and Deanna, who uprooted their lives in Taranaki, New Zealand, so Rowe could pursue his sporting dream. His girlfriend, Jess, who he describes as integral to any of his success during the past two years.
Sorely missed: The late Mosese Fotuaika.

And then he will look down at the name written on the strapping of his wrist. Mosese Fotuaika. Like Rowe, Fotuaika came via New Zealand and Keebra Park High with dreams of making his first-grade debut for Wests Tigers.Tragically, Fotuaika never fulfilled the ambition. Last February Fotuaika was found dead in his Merrylands townhouse, only hours after suffering a serious pectoral injury in the Concord gymnasium. The death was not treated as suspicious.

The incident rocked the club but no one was affected more than Rowe, his flatmate at the time. It's why Fotuaika will be at the forefront of Rowe's mind on the biggest day of his professional life.

"Definitely, this season I've had him written on my wrist when I run out," Rowe told Fairfax Media. "I was thankful he took me in so I could live with him at the start of last year. He's a big part of my life.

"We're really tight, I want to school with him. He was a father figure almost, always looking out for the young boys who came out from Keebra.

"He always led with his actions on the field. He was awesome."

Another key figure in Rowe's rise is his girlfriend, Jess. Like most of these meetings, theirs was a chance one. Boy meets girl. Boy likes girl. Girl tries to sell car to boy.

"I met Jess when I was about 19," he said of his girlfriend, who is studying theology and history at the Australian Catholic University with a view to teaching.

"She's a really smart cookie. I was going to buy a car off her. The car was a bomb. A little Mazda thing that was too small, I couldn't even put my big toe in it."

"It wasn't for me," he added with a chuckle. "But I kept her number."

Now has has the No.1 on his back. Like the man he is replacing, the injured James Tedesco, Rowe is a genuine speedster who can find the line. He did just that on 38 occasions from 45 games in the National Youth Competition, earning a taste of the big time during the inaugural Auckland Nines tournament.

The former Waitara Bear moved from New Zealand in his teens, caught the eye of good judges with dazzling feats for Keebra Park High School, represented the Junior Kiwis and the Australian Schoolboys en route to becoming a Tiger. Sound familiar?

"He was a perfect example of how I want to turn out," Rowe said of Benji Marshall.

"I was actually watching Australia-New Zealand when I first saw which school he went to and how the Tigers picked him up. I thought that was the easiest route for me to take and he was an inspiration in my life when I was young."

Rowe has never had to look far for inspiration. His parents, Greg and Deanna, realised their son's potential and moved across the ditch to ensure it was fulfilled. Rowe excelled at athletics, swimming, touch football, basketball, union and league but chose the latter because it was the sport his father played.

"I found out [about selection] on Monday when [coach] Mick [Potter] came up and told me the good news," he said.

"He asked me if I was ready and I said, 'Yeah, I'm ready'. The first person I called was my mum, she was over the moon. Mum and dad basically made the move over to Australia for me to pursue my rugby league career."

Should he progress further still, Rowe will have to choose between representing Australia or New Zealand. For the 20-year-old, it is no choice at all.

"I'm always proud to wear the black and white," he said.

"I'd choose that all the time. I'm so proud to be a Kiwi, I'll stay loyal to the country."
 
I'm undecided… He looks a bit nervous / unsure of himself.

He is definitely trying, he just looks a bit hesitant at times and his positioning isn't great, every time Sandow lined up a kick from inside their 40 I got nervous, and it did result in a 40/20 near the end.

Can't fault him too much though, he's doing what he can and wouldn't have been expecting to be in 1st grade so suddenly this year.

We don't really have too many other options, I don't want us to shift Nofa or Richards back there, they are doing a great job for us on the wings and with Teddy & Moltz injured, I guess Rowe is the only option?
 
Mate that was a high pressure game and they went after him big time. He doesn't have a huge ceiling as a first grader for mine but I wouldn't be too harsh on him today. He took a couple of high pressure bombs late and put his body on the line and that's more than can be said for some other fullback we've endured.

He's certainly well behind Tedesco in every way. I hope he goes back to reggies better for the experience though because I've seen good signs and bad.
 

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