OFFICIAL Lachlan Galvin #277 *Released* Career Discussion.

The club will not move Galvin out of the halves. They will go in on him till he signs elsewhere. I only see a significant role for Latu if Galvin leaves. If he stays, Latu’s future is elsewhere.
 
Conceptually I think it is a workable solution. What we have seen over several years now ws the evolution of the game. Everyone playing the game in a similar manner; complete your sets, kick to a corner, make them work it our, capitalise on the error etc. 25 years ago Sheens and our bouys changed the way the game was played - you score 30 we'll score 31 with an unstructured and unhindered style of play, enter Melbourne who revolutionalised the game again with structure and domination of the ruck (wrestle) and Penrith have evolved this style andadded the ability to attacking using defence.

Playing three halves isn't completely new - we have seen it done at SOO level; however, usually the thrid half relaces the hooker. What you propose is something different though; with decentralised play making wider of the ruck. Same Same, but Different, to Yeo pushing the playmakers wider at the Riff.

While feasible, I don't think we have the side to make this work. The reason being that we do not win the collision and this is so importaint in contolling the ruck, on bith sides of the pill. If we can't do it now I don't think we will be able to do it with two 19 year olds against experienced NRL players. We could probably have a bit of success with ball in hand, but in defence they would target our middle, take advantage of the skills mismatch and roll up the field. Could we outscore them? Potentially, but it is very hard to gain momentum with the ball in hand if you are unable to control, or at least be competitive at the ruck.

I think it could work if you played Latu F defensively at centre but offensively as a psuedo lock meaning Twal and Bird would plug the middle in D. Given Bird's ability I think it could work. I would think that the time to introduce something like this would be during the bye round - too much of a change to the offensive strategy to introduce between games.
 
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Tiger Stripes said:
I thought Galvin had the speed, anticipation, but was well in front of Toá, when Toá should have been along side of him to receive the ball for a line break a couple of times. What do I make of that?
1. Toá to slow off the mark to get in line with Galvin.
2. Toá too slow to see the opportunity and get in the best position to take on the defence.
3. Haven't gelled yet?
3. May urgently needed for shear speed 'n aggression.
4. IMO, for now at least, Galvin should be tested in the centres with Doueihi, with Latu the 5/8.
Galvins defence would be suspect at present, but has the stamina to be up in their face before they get a full head of steam. Just my thoughts.
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Toa was daydreaming
 
Jolls said:
Conceptually I think it is a workable solution. What we have seen over several years now ws the evolution of the game. Everyone playing the game in a similar manner; complete your sets, kick to a corner, make them work it our, capitalise on the error etc. 25 years ago Sheens and our bouys changed the way the game was played - you score 30 we'll score 31 with an unstructured and unhindered style of play, enter Melbourne who revolutionalised the game again with structure and domination of the ruck (wrestle) and Penrith have evolved this style andadded the ability to attacking using defence.

Playing three halves isn't completely new - we have seen it done at SOO level; however, usually the thrid half relaces the hooker. What you propose is something different though; with decentralised play making wider of the ruck. Same Same, but Different, to Yeo pushing the playmakers wider at the Riff.

While feasible, I don't think we have the side to make this work. The reason being that we do not win the collision and this is so importaint in contolling the ruck, on bith sides of the pill. If we can't do it now I don't think we will be able to do it with two 19 year olds against experienced NRL players. We could probably have a bit of success with ball in hand, but in defence they would target our middle, take advantage of the skills mismatch and roll up the field. Could we outscore them? Potentially, but it is very hard to gain momentum with the ball in hand if you are unable to control, or at least be competitive at the ruck.

I think it could work if you played Latu F defensively at centre but offensively as a psuedo lock meaning Twal and Bird would plug the middle in D. Given Bird's ability I think it could work. I would think that the time to introduce something like this wpuld be during the bye round - too much of a change to the offensive strtegy to intorduce betwwen games.
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I leave it to greater strategic minds than mine!
 
Vicious said:
Not impossible.
Luai has so far delivered us great leadership and a great defensive attitude, but has contributed very little to our attack.
Obviously we are only 4 games into the season so there is a long way to go, but if Luai continued to offer us very little in attack and the other 2 learnt from him and become much better in regards to their on field talk, leadership and defensive attitude, would there be a real need for Luai in 2027 ?
Obviously we will get a snapshot on how we cope without Luai this coming weekend, but I have a feeling with our other missing players, we will be like lambs to the slaughter and a win is highly unlikely.
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This isn't me having a go at you but have you watched the boys play in person this season?
 
Jolls said:
Conceptually I think it is a workable solution. What we have seen over several years now ws the evolution of the game. Everyone playing the game in a similar manner; complete your sets, kick to a corner, make them work it our, capitalise on the error etc. 25 years ago Sheens and our bouys changed the way the game was played - you score 30 we'll score 31 with an unstructured and unhindered style of play, enter Melbourne who revolutionalised the game again with structure and domination of the ruck (wrestle) and Penrith have evolved this style andadded the ability to attacking using defence.

Playing three halves isn't completely new - we have seen it done at SOO level; however, usually the thrid half relaces the hooker. What you propose is something different though; with decentralised play making wider of the ruck. Same Same, but Different, to Yeo pushing the playmakers wider at the Riff.

While feasible, I don't think we have the side to make this work. The reason being that we do not win the collision and this is so importaint in contolling the ruck, on bith sides of the pill. If we can't do it now I don't think we will be able to do it with two 19 year olds against experienced NRL players. We could probably have a bit of success with ball in hand, but in defence they would target our middle, take advantage of the skills mismatch and roll up the field. Could we outscore them? Potentially, but it is very hard to gain momentum with the ball in hand if you are unable to control, or at least be competitive at the ruck.

I think it could work if you played Latu F defensively at centre but offensively as a psuedo lock meaning Twal and Bird would plug the middle in D. Given Bird's ability I think it could work. I would think that the time to introduce something like this wpuld be during the bye round - too much of a change to the offensive strtegy to intorduce betwwen games.
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The way Latu was passing the ball out the back from in front of the line it’s pretty obvious that wasn’t a spur of the moment set up. I think Luai is also capable of passing that way but Galvin is not. The current problem seems to be that we have a dominant roaming five eight and a more passive positional fullback. If Bula moved around the field like Galvin did we’d create a lot more attacking opportunities but yet Bula is constantly standing wide of the ruck as the sudo five eight in the side whilst Galvin moves around (a lot like Drinkwater and Tommy T).
 
Based on his body type and shape I think it’s inevitable that Galvin ends up in the backrow somewhere. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing. He’s even acknowledge it himself.

If he was to move to lock eventually it will let him get his hands on the ball and let Luai and Latu play second receiver which is both of their best spots imo.

1million a season may be an issue early on but Yeo, Murray and Jake Turbo are on around a million at the moment. With the cap going up, we will probably see quite a few locks on that 1mil a season pay packet.
 
Canadian Club said:
Based on his body type and shape I think it’s inevitable that Galvin ends up in the backrow somewhere. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing. He’s even acknowledge it himself.

If he was to move to lock eventually it will let him get his hands on the ball and let Luai and Latu play second receiver which is both of their best spots imo.

1million a season may be an issue early on but Yeo, Murray and Jake Turbo are on around a million at the moment. With the cap going up, we will probably see quite a few locks on that 1mil a season pay packet.
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The more I watch Galvin float around the field and play as the dominant playmaker the more I can’t see backrow being an option for him. He basically is our fullback in attack.
 
Needaname said:
The more I watch Galvin float around the field and play as the dominant playmaker the more I can’t see backrow being an option for him. He basically is our fullback in attack.
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Once he puts on size and fills out his frame it’s going to be harder to maintain that and move as quickly or as agile.
 
Needaname said:
The way Latu was passing the ball out the back from in front of the line it’s pretty obvious that wasn’t a spur of the moment set up. I think Luai is also capable of passing that way but Galvin is not. The current problem seems to be that we have a dominant roaming five eight and a more passive positional fullback. If Bula moved around the field like Galvin did we’d create a lot more attacking opportunities but yet Bula is constantly standing wide of the ruck as the sudo five eight in the side whilst Galvin moves around (a lot like Drinkwater and Tommy T).
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It is definitely a workable option and LAtu has shown what he can bring to the table. The concern is how we deal with the way the other team combats it. We already struggle with Api/TDS and Seyfarth in defence. Add Latu into the mix and we aren't dominating the ruck. We are planning to a deep dive on this exact issue next week. Could ba a very interesting discussion - I wonder if Benji has five minutes to drop in 🤣🤣🤣
 
Needaname said:
The more I watch Galvin float around the field and play as the dominant playmaker the more I can’t see backrow being an option for him. He basically is our fullback in attack.
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Now we are talking - Latu and Romey and the halves and Galvin swinging around with Bula. Still a problem at 13 - someone would have to defend as a centre and wear a 3 or 4 on their back. Good headache to try and solve!
 
In regard to Galvin- I still think I see shades of Wade Graham to his future- can play 5/8, but can control a side of the field from the second row as essentially, a second 5/8 but on one side.

He will need to get stronger. It's not even necessarily about bulk. But his initial defensive contact needs to be stronger.
 
Batmans Parents said:
Don’t bother with him. When we signed May, he claimed he was no better than Twal. One of his many clangers.

Guy is the dunce of the forum and that’s with stiff competition.
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Thanks dopey.
You recently stated Luai disappeared for the last 15mins of the game which potentially cost us the win and now want to criticise me for stating he may not be a better player than either Galvin or Latu Fainu by 2027 ?
Keep up your criticism of Seyfarth, he was without doubt in our top 3 players against the Warriors and a big contributor in our win over the Dolphins.
 
The Chad said:
In regard to Galvin- I still think I see shades of Wade Graham to his future- can play 5/8, but can control a side of the field from the second row as essentially, a second 5/8 but on one side.

He will need to get stronger. It's not even necessarily about bulk. But his initial defensive contact needs to be stronger.
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Bird is our Wadr Graham at the moment - Galvin could be in the future if he stays.
 
The Chad said:
That's only because you read 'move him to centre' or 'move him to second row' & assume that they then turn into a clone of every other centre or second rower in the NRL.

I would literally want them to play as a #6 or #7- just in different spots on the field. The number on their back would be irrelevant.
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If you want to see why you can’t manufacture a centre go back and watch how Crichton schooled Atkinson last weekend.
 
Robbie's Love Child said:
The deal being floated is not a bad one, he is in the top percentage of halves in the NRL and is still very young. With the cap going up this is not crazy money for a quality half who is not even at his best yet but will continue to improve.
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Mate, he’ll improve if he stops cutting back through the ruck as he has nowhere near the required speed. If not then off to the backrow he goes, worth $1 million?
 
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