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tigermaniac
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@Irvine said:
Very nice words. I can see your delight, wrong or right we'll know soon enough. He is known at times as Shifty, but you got to give it to him, he's been around long enough and he knows his stuff. I just don't want a revisit of the boys club. Apart from that if he gets back in you got it your wish, good on you, it's nice that you've been touched by Timmy.
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tigermaniac
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@NT Tiger said:
Easy NT, don't start another rumour. Irvine don't listen to these guys, I just hope you don't take it the other way.
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Basil_Tiger
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@westTAHger said:
I don't think Henry will see the season out,hehe,didn't someone on that same programme say Tim would be coaching the Dragons and it would be announced at seasons end and a couple of days later Mary got the job,its all just bullsheet..
jirskyr
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This would be paying $1001.
Eye_Of_Da_Tiger
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Wow just when you think things couldn't get worst. Must be a carve up surely .
Tigerdave
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surely they aren't that stupid?
I don't think I could renew my membership if that happened, not because of Sheens as such, but because of them getting rid of him, putting us in a financial mess and now go crawling back to him?
That just doesn't sit well with me and reeks of ineptitude.
I don't think I could renew my membership if that happened, not because of Sheens as such, but because of them getting rid of him, putting us in a financial mess and now go crawling back to him?
That just doesn't sit well with me and reeks of ineptitude.
littletiger
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I think it has come to light Sheens had ran the club with no money and a dysfunctional board. No media leaks were made while he was here and from the outside businesses seemed to run more smoothly than now. Sheens must have had something to do with that and his results were not bad considering what he had to deal with. I'm not saying his perfect and he must learn from his mistakes, i.e robbie and benji. but if he has learnt from that I think he would be good considering the club is trying to get itself in better shape than what it was like when he was there.
I don't know its a tough one, Potter has done 100 percent with our forwards but sheens much better with our backs.
Bring them together I say.
I don't know its a tough one, Potter has done 100 percent with our forwards but sheens much better with our backs.
Bring them together I say.
tigermaniac
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Sheens was pro Balmain. You'll never see his face again.
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Tiger_Watto
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@littletiger said:
I tend to agree the internal stuff was well maintained under Sheens Watch, but I'm not too sure if it was attributed to Tim or other factors in play.
His termination was a move by the board, and judging by what has transpired since his termination, I'd say it was a power-play by the board to exercise more control. I feel it is these reasons why we appointed a rookie coach, and why we have seen continual disharmony within the football operations since… It simply doesn't work!
I'm not against Tim Sheens, but I'm not too sure he was the sole reason we ran a tighter ship during his tenure?
balmain boy
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I've really got to start calling in to those programs when im bored at work to get some kicks.
Seems its what everyone else is doing.
I could have a great laugh. Might be nice to destabilise a few clubs for the fun of it.
Seems its what everyone else is doing.
I could have a great laugh. Might be nice to destabilise a few clubs for the fun of it.
Tiger_Watto
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We were dysfunctional way before this phone call!
Cosimo_Zaretti
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Are we still paying him anyway? If so it might be tempting to give Tim something productive to do, although I'm not sure it's as head coach.
Tim Sheens didn't really adapt to the modern game for mine. The ruck is now a contest after as well as before the tackle is made, and just as Union is attempting to speed up the ruck, League is moving in the opposite direction in trying to stop the forwards getting a roll on. The Sheens '05 tactic of running a lightweight forward pack to pick up your metres through quick breaks and fast play the balls doesn't cut it when you've got the likes of Billy Slater coming in at third man and trying to pull your foot off after every tackle.
Essentially the NRL let Craig Bellamy rewrite the rule book to make professional fouls a part of the flow of the game. To be fair they have come down on the lifts, chicken wings and crushers that genuinely endanger players, but you've still got blokes being held down, players legs being held up after the tackle, markers not square and half the Manly forward pack having a lie down in the play the ball. When I saw Josh Reynolds' brain explosion in kicking Sam Thaiday in the head I felt I was the only one asking why a penalty hadn't already been given. Why was Third Man Sam allowed to hold up Reynolds' boot in the first place?
The game in 2014 is a hard place to play Sheens football. It calls for cheeky backrowers and dummy halves jumping in there and going, and going and going again, until you've pulled the defence in all directions and the holes open up on the outside for some silly outrageous line break and no look pass to the wing. These days you've got to physically dominate them in the forwards first, speed and workrate is no longer enough. The old Green Machine days of 30m cutout passes straight from the play the ball are sadly behind us as a modern defence will never give you the time and space.
Tim Sheens didn't really adapt to the modern game for mine. The ruck is now a contest after as well as before the tackle is made, and just as Union is attempting to speed up the ruck, League is moving in the opposite direction in trying to stop the forwards getting a roll on. The Sheens '05 tactic of running a lightweight forward pack to pick up your metres through quick breaks and fast play the balls doesn't cut it when you've got the likes of Billy Slater coming in at third man and trying to pull your foot off after every tackle.
Essentially the NRL let Craig Bellamy rewrite the rule book to make professional fouls a part of the flow of the game. To be fair they have come down on the lifts, chicken wings and crushers that genuinely endanger players, but you've still got blokes being held down, players legs being held up after the tackle, markers not square and half the Manly forward pack having a lie down in the play the ball. When I saw Josh Reynolds' brain explosion in kicking Sam Thaiday in the head I felt I was the only one asking why a penalty hadn't already been given. Why was Third Man Sam allowed to hold up Reynolds' boot in the first place?
The game in 2014 is a hard place to play Sheens football. It calls for cheeky backrowers and dummy halves jumping in there and going, and going and going again, until you've pulled the defence in all directions and the holes open up on the outside for some silly outrageous line break and no look pass to the wing. These days you've got to physically dominate them in the forwards first, speed and workrate is no longer enough. The old Green Machine days of 30m cutout passes straight from the play the ball are sadly behind us as a modern defence will never give you the time and space.
