Lee & JP finally lose the confidence of the Board??

[cochise]

Anyone renewed their membership yet?

Mine is set for Auto renewal.

 

[cochise]

What did riccio say about your intentions?

We just wanted to clarify that our intentions were for a review to be untaken and though we were interview we do not expect our opinions to carry the weight of others interviewed. I don't believe this is a Podcaster v CEO situation as was stated in his article.

 

[KH1988]

What did riccio say about your intentions?

What did riccio say about your intentions?

Still showing on Tele website with today's date

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-turmoil-presents-benji-marshall-with-his-greatest-test-of-all/news-story/5b2a7257ae19a9a41c9f4ad494a4b67e

Lines include:

Fans who have led a review into the Wests Tigers have little clue as to how much damage they’re doing ahead of Benji Marshall’s rookie season.

It is yet to be confirmed if the findings will ever be made public, which is important, as it would then allow the rest of the game to find out how it is that a podcaster knows what an elite-level performing NRL club looks like.
Pascoe will be interviewed for the sake of the review next week.

It will be the CEO’s word against a podcaster.

Only in Tiger Town.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I will answer your question mate, just been busy with work today. I have never personally had any contact with anyone in the media. Steve had 1, possibly 2 conversations with Brent Read when the petition was in progress, after we met with the Holman Barnes Group we have not spoken to anyone in the media as were the requests from the Holman Barnes Group.

We did send an email to David Riccio on the weekend to clarify with him, not for publication purposes, a couple of points he made in his article about our intentions with the petition. I do not expect there to be anymore communication with him at this point.

We have no ongoing communication regarding the review with anyone in the media and I do not really expect that to change before the completion of the review.

I do not believe the positive intentions of the review to have been taken over by anyone, this is in the media now because people inside our club can not let the review proceed in the manner in which it should. I believe this is in the media now because our club leaks information to the press constantly in what appears from the outside looking in an attempt to push their own agendas.

I have confidence in Tony Crawford and Gary Barnier to conduct a thorough, honest, fair and unbiased review and am completed prepared to accept their recommendations.

I do hope at some point the Holman Barnes Group releases, accepts and implements the recommendations that come from the review.

Thanks for your honest reply and clarification.

Over the years I can't say I agree with some of your stances but your one of the few remaining on this forum who can be relied on to engage in an honest and genuine way. This forum isn't what it was unfortunately.

I'm glad to hear the HB group has advised against media contact . And am happy to hear that the organisers are sticking strictly to your original purpose without outside interference.

And happier that as you've mentioned in a previous post you will be happy to accept the results if the review....whatever it is. This process needs to have an end point.

Who knows who is releasing stuff to the media. This was one of the many objections I had to start off with regards a petition.....people who perhaps are looking to make waves whether they are insiders or outsiders love a fluid situation they can capitalise on.......as you've probably noticed through the threads many are hoping for sheer anarchy ......let's hope the media talk will die down at the conclusion of the review and better still before.

And I'm sure some good will come from the review.

We really need this off the press.

 

[Vicious]

We just wanted to clarify that our intentions were for a review to be untaken and though we were interview we do not expect our opinions to carry the weight of others interviewed. I don't believe this is a Podcaster v CEO situation as was stated in his article.

I don’t expect you to name anyone while the review is taking place, but do you know who is leaking information to the media ?
Do you know if Benji now has full control over recruitment/retention decisions or is there still conflict between he and Fulton ?

 

[tony soprano]

We just wanted to clarify that our intentions were for a review to be untaken and though we were interview we do not expect our opinions to carry the weight of others interviewed. I don't believe this is a Podcaster v CEO situation as was stated in his article.

I think it's clear that the POD would like the the CEO removed?

Did you get a response?

 

[tony soprano]

I don’t expect you to name anyone while the review is taking place, but do you know who is leaking information to the media ?
Do you know if Benji now has full control over recruitment/retention decisions or is there still conflict between he and Fulton ?

If you read the latest chammas article he mentions people who have declined to comment then proceeds in great detail.

Despite cochise innuendo who the leaker is, in reality could be anyone.

 

[cochise]

I don’t expect you to name anyone while the review is taking place, but do you know who is leaking information to the media ?
Do you know if Benji now has full control over recruitment/retention decisions or is there still conflict between he and Fulton ?

I really don't know who the info is coming from, the only thing concrete is Lee released the info about his position being extended.

 

[cochise]

I think it's clear that the POD would like the the CEO removed?

Did you get a response?

I have my personal opinions on what I believe the problems are, as does everyone else. I am looking from the outside though and I don't know if what I believe is true. That is why I wanted a review conducted to find out what the problems are and hopefully have recommendations made that address those issues.

Having met Gary Barnier I am more than happy to trust that he is conducting the review in good faith and will uncover the issues at our club.

If the recommendations include Justin Pascoe as the CEO moving forward, then I have no issue with that.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I have my personal opinions on what I believe the problems are, as does everyone else. I am looking from the outside though and I don't know if what I believe is true. That is why I wanted a review conducted to find out what the problems are and hopefully have recommendations made that address those issues.

Having met Gary Barnier I am more than happy to trust that he is conducting the review in good faith and will uncover the issues at our club.

If the recommendations include Justin Pascoe as the CEO moving forward, then I have no issue with that.

It would be interesting if Barnier and Crawford come to any conclusion as to retention and recruitment what the club can do to remedy the on field problems.

Brand name, financials and sponsorship isn't the issue and I doubt these guys would have much of a solution to the on field issues.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

The coach that deserved time was Michael Potter.

Trouble is he was punted following the Brian Smith review.

 

[yeti]

The podcasters and organisers of the petition have perpetrated a fraud on all the people that signed the petition.
They were asked to sign a petition for an independent review and what has been delivered is a review by a person with existing connections and prejudices .

THAT WAS NOT WHAT THE PETITION PROPOSED. IT WAS A DELIBERATE FRAUD AND LIE.

The review is a fraud based on a lie perpetrated with malice with their own self promotion in mind.

It has been weaponised by a board member and the casualties are we the real fans. This is evident in ALL the media reports about how this is being conducted.

All this destruction to PROMOTE a podcast that has less listeners than my dog has balls.

IT'S A DISGRACE.

Well, that sounds libelous to me.

 

[hank37w]

Trouble is he was punted following the Brian Smith review.

I believe it was Grant Mayer that derailed the 2014 season and commissioning Brian Smith to conduct a mid season review along with senior players plotting behind Potters back was never going to help.

Don't think Brian Smith had anything particularly bad to say about Potter although there were question marks about leadership and the need for a lot of that probably came down to Mayer more so than Potter, anyway, Robbie telling tails to Tallis obviously did not help.

 

[GCfan]

You blokes must be exhausted.

I know I am

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I believe it was Grant Mayer that derailed the 2014 season and commissioning Brian Smith to conduct a mid season review along with senior players plotting behind Potters back was never going to help.

Don't think Brian Smith had anything particularly bad to say about Potter although there were question marks about leadership and the need for a lot of that probably came down to Mayer more so than Potter, anyway, Robbie telling tails to Tallis obviously did not help.

Grant Mayer....

Nearly forgot about him.

 

[Telltails]

Perhaps the original positive intentions of the petitions organisers have been taken over by more powerful supporters.

It's now an uncontrolled negative spiral for the club.

With respect the club has been spiralling, with support from fans for years, who have entrusted the current long serving management of the club to be able to improve the on field performance by backing the football dept - that they employ.
Instead our results continue to deteriate with no signs of improvement. The appointment of Tim Sheens and his dismissal/ resignation after one season and role reversal - doesn't matter which fans backed the decision to bring him here or not - the board CEO Chair did, and within a season he is gone - his position untenable when he was blindsided with appointment of Fulton - who reportedly is off side with the coach - they also employed. Where else is the accountabilty going to come from?

How any supporter can think the review - in any form- is a negative and think that the supporters who started the petition have some ulterior motive other than being completely frustrated by the inability of the management and their decision making given the embarrassment we have become on the back of decisions made by those who have the power to do so - how much more are you prepared to tolerate with this lot and why?From my position got to wonder what motive those who point fingers at fans who are calling for change have, in not supporting the review.

 

[philgood]

This review is the best thing to happen to this club in a LONG TIME! The top brass are feeling the pressure and so they should.

If they had an ounce of decency and integrity, they would stand down and give someone else a go at governing the club. Almost every decision the board makes, turns out to be a disaster with no strategy behind their decisions. Case in point - hire Time Sheens as GM, then move him to head coach, then get rid of him. All in a short space of time.

They are feeling the heat. Lets hope this is a purging of the club

 

[Todd Packer]

This review is the best thing to happen to this club in a LONG TIME! The top brass are feeling the pressure and so they should.

If they had an ounce of decency and integrity, they would stand down and give someone else a go at governing the club. Almost every decision the board makes, turns out to be a disaster with no strategy behind their decisions. Case in point - hire Time Sheens as GM, then move him to head coach, then get rid of him. All in a short space of time.

They are feeling the heat. Lets hope this is a purging of the club

It's interesting that one of the people that advocates waiting for the findings of a review would like a comment proposing pre-empting that review with immediate changes.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

It's interesting that one of the people that advocates waiting for the findings of a review would like a comment proposing pre-empting that review with immediate changes.

I mean, you don’t have to be Nostradamus to predict that a review of the biggest basket case sporting in organization in the nrl will dig up some dirt.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

With respect the club has been spiralling, with support from fans for years, who have entrusted the current long serving management of the club to be able to improve the on field performance by backing the football dept - that they employ.
Instead our results continue to deteriate with no signs of improvement. The appointment of Tim Sheens and his dismissal/ resignation after one season and role reversal - doesn't matter which fans backed the decision to bring him here or not - the board CEO Chair did, and within a season he is gone - his position untenable when he was blindsided with appointment of Fulton - who reportedly is off side with the coach - they also employed. Where else is the accountabilty going to come from?

How any supporter can think the review - in any form- is a negative and think that the supporters who started the petition have some ulterior motive other than being completely frustrated by the inability of the management and their decision making given the embarrassment we have become on the back of decisions made by those who have the power to do so - how much more are you prepared to tolerate with this lot and why?From my position got to wonder what motive those who point fingers at fans who are calling for change have, in not supporting the review.

I agree the handling of the Sheens situation was a failure.

And I'm for constructive change......but you speak of the review is a good thing in any form........I don't agree to the anarchy some are proposing or the negative press which comes from a public petition.

As for questioning my motive for not wanting what is largely what now fast becoming a public which hunt in the media........it's simply not wanting a destabilising negative public trial of the club.