Litmus test for Madge...

ElleryHanley

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Massive game this week for our coach.

Manly have smashed us once this season and we know where they are going to attack. Broncs game was not a test...worst halves in the comp and a poor coach. The Broncs did not exploit our weaknesses.

Tomorrow....Manly are coming at Nofa's wing...they are going to throw runners at Luc's inside arm at speed...they are going to send their speed men to get outside big Ken...their halves are going to probe inside all day when our backrowers start to arm grab...

**Everyone knows it...and it is up to the coach to game plan for it.** Stuart had half his team out on Thurs, but they had the game plan to beat Parra. Ultimately, this is what a coach has to do.

The documentary showed Madge screaming "Even at 24-6 I knew you could win!". Really? Down 18 at Canberra. How exactly were we going to come back? Yelling about pride in the jersey and being the team mates your mates want etc won't get you back into a game of modern footy.

**We need tactics and a game plan that adjusts to who we are playing every week.**

If Madge pulls off a masterstroke and we win, all the credit should go his way. If we are down 20 and gone by half time through the same old holes and flaws, then he really should take the blame. He has had them long enough. A really poor Knights team beat Manly with Turbo using a specific game plan, so it is not impossible.

Let's see. Huge test for Madge. It will shut up all the detractors if he comes up with something for the game.

And pretty much confirm what some of us fear if all he has got is "be the bloke your team mates want next to you...the jersey is special...wests tigers are always in a game...."

We need a specific game plan for Manly. That is the test.

Let's see.
 
** Stuart had half his team out on Thurs, but they had the game plan to beat Parra. Ultimately, this is what a coach has to do

I think Canberra win through tough gritty effort. They hit hard and worked really hard in defence all night, it was impressive to watch and highlighted to me what the right attitude looks like. We can do it, I’ve seen it from or boys and this game is where we going to need that right attitude in spades
 
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park
 
@elleryhanley said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424131) said:
Massive game this week for our coach.

Manly have smashed us once this season and we know where they are going to attack. Broncs game was not a test...worst halves in the comp and a poor coach. The Broncs did not exploit our weaknesses.

Tomorrow....Manly are coming at Nofa's wing...they are going to throw runners at Luc's inside arm at speed...they are going to send their speed men to get outside big Ken...their halves are going to probe inside all day when our backrowers start to arm grab...

**Everyone knows it...and it is up to the coach to game plan for it.** Stuart had half his team out on Thurs, but they had the game plan to beat Parra. Ultimately, this is what a coach has to do.

The documentary showed Madge screaming "Even at 24-6 I knew you could win!". Really? Down 18 at Canberra. How exactly were we going to come back? Yelling about pride in the jersey and being the team mates your mates want etc won't get you back into a game of modern footy.

**We need tactics and a game plan that adjusts to who we are playing every week.**

If Madge pulls off a masterstroke and we win, all the credit should go his way. If we are down 20 and gone by half time through the same old holes and flaws, then he really should take the blame. He has had them long enough. A really poor Knights team beat Manly with Turbo using a specific game plan, so it is not impossible.

Let's see. Huge test for Madge. It will shut up all the detractors if he comes up with something for the game.

And pretty much confirm what some of us fear if all he has got is "be the bloke your team mates want next to you...the jersey is special...wests tigers are always in a game...."

We need a specific game plan for Manly. That is the test.

Let's see.


wont see tactics on a tv show - thats dumb
 
@jc99 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424166) said:
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park

100%. How many of our players would make their team? Not many I’d think.
 
@the_third said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424168) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424131) said:
Massive game this week for our coach.

Manly have smashed us once this season and we know where they are going to attack. Broncs game was not a test...worst halves in the comp and a poor coach. The Broncs did not exploit our weaknesses.

Tomorrow....Manly are coming at Nofa's wing...they are going to throw runners at Luc's inside arm at speed...they are going to send their speed men to get outside big Ken...their halves are going to probe inside all day when our backrowers start to arm grab...

**Everyone knows it...and it is up to the coach to game plan for it.** Stuart had half his team out on Thurs, but they had the game plan to beat Parra. Ultimately, this is what a coach has to do.

The documentary showed Madge screaming "Even at 24-6 I knew you could win!". Really? Down 18 at Canberra. How exactly were we going to come back? Yelling about pride in the jersey and being the team mates your mates want etc won't get you back into a game of modern footy.

**We need tactics and a game plan that adjusts to who we are playing every week.**

If Madge pulls off a masterstroke and we win, all the credit should go his way. If we are down 20 and gone by half time through the same old holes and flaws, then he really should take the blame. He has had them long enough. A really poor Knights team beat Manly with Turbo using a specific game plan, so it is not impossible.

Let's see. Huge test for Madge. It will shut up all the detractors if he comes up with something for the game.

And pretty much confirm what some of us fear if all he has got is "be the bloke your team mates want next to you...the jersey is special...wests tigers are always in a game...."

We need a specific game plan for Manly. That is the test.

Let's see.


wont see tactics on a tv show - thats dumb

No tactics on display all season mate...name one game where you can say we had a team specific game plan that worked. Name one interview where a player said one of our assistant coaches came up with an adjustment? Snoopy Collins...? Millward? Name once.

Tomorrow we will need one. Let's see.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424169) said:
@jc99 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424166) said:
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park

100%. How many of our players would make their team? Not many I’d think.

How many of Newcastle's team six weeks ago would have? Maybe 3? They won.

This defeatism is why we are who we are...sorry, but there is no reason we can't be competitive and fix the normal holes with adjustments. Maybe we won't win, but we should not be beaten the same way all the good teams have beaten us. The exact same way.
 
I feel Manly is the only team that can beat Penrith or Melbourne. It's gonna be tough viewing i feel...
 
@jc99 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424166) said:
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park

This is why we are who we are...let's not even bother playing the game then? This is why the club can be down 30 after 20 mins and no one is accountable. Sorry, but there is no reason we can't throw something at Manly tomorrow...throw a curve ball at them and see if we can jag a win.
 
@jc99 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424166) said:
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park

That’s why they’re called upsets. But your probably right😂
 
@elleryhanley said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424178) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424169) said:
@jc99 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424166) said:
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park

100%. How many of our players would make their team? Not many I’d think.

How many of Newcastle's team six weeks ago would have? Maybe 3? They won.

This defeatism is why we are who we are...sorry, but there is no reason we can't be competitive and fix the normal holes with adjustments. Maybe we won't win, but we should not be beaten the same way all the good teams have beaten us. The exact same way.

I’m not defending Madge at all, I’ve been pretty clear that I’m not a fan. I was just pointing out that Manly’s team is flying at the moment.
 
@tsupps05 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424180) said:
I feel Manly is the only team that can beat Penrith or Melbourne. It's gonna be tough viewing i feel...

Spot on
only chance for the comp this year is Melbourne Penrith or Manly
 
great post, where was the game plan last manly game. we knew turbo would be on, how come it was always cheekam left to defend him on his own

better have something cooking guys
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424205) said:
@tsupps05 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424180) said:
I feel Manly is the only team that can beat Penrith or Melbourne. It's gonna be tough viewing i feel...

Spot on
only chance for the comp this year is Melbourne Penrith or Manly

souths raiders,long pause the us,tigers ,st g newcastle sharks equal each other out on d home run
 
both the cowboys and raiders have proved this weekend that irrespective of cattle that if you show up and defend your line like your life depends on it then you can match it with the big boys. that's where it starts. very hopeful we turn up tomorrow night but my head tells me we lose by 20+ unfortunately.
 
@elleryhanley said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424182) said:
@jc99 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424166) said:
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park

This is why we are who we are...let's not even bother playing the game then? This is why the club can be down 30 after 20 mins and no one is accountable. Sorry, but there is no reason we can't throw something at Manly tomorrow...throw a curve ball at them and see if we can jag a win.

Oh we can give it a try but if both teams play their best we aren't winning simple as that. We need to play our best and catch manly off guard and get them confused if we want to win but I don't see them stuffing this one up
 
My heart wants a win in a tough grinding game, my head tells me we will go to the sheds at the break well behind, my dislocated shoulder is definitely saying something too.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424169) said:
@jc99 said in [Litmus test for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1424166) said:
We aren't winning this game unless we suddenly turn into a top 4 team which isn't happening. Manly outclass us all over the park

100%. How many of our players would make their team? Not many I’d think.

Paseka,Suli, Tapau, Sironen Aloiai ????
 
Probably close to Manly's best line up. Not sure that any game plan is going to be effective in creating a win but attitude in defence will make them competitive and that is entirely up to the players.
 

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