Live game thread - Tigers V Cowboys

[TrueTiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

 

[TrueTiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

Mate ...cmon seriously , I knew cheerleaders who played harder / tougher than you

Yeah you were one of them but not as tough..

 

[happy_tiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

Mate ...cmon seriously , I knew cheerleaders who played harder / tougher than you

Yeah you were one of them but not as tough..

I've met a few of your teams cheerleaders ..they were leaving the set of the movie The Longest Yard ......

 

[cochise]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

 

[cochise]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

Mate ...cmon seriously , I knew cheerleaders who played harder / tougher than you

Yeah you were one of them but not as tough..

I've met a few of your teams cheerleaders ..they were leaving the set of the movie The Longest Yard ......

lol Tracey Morgan

 

[TrueTiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

 

[TrueTiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

Mate ...cmon seriously , I knew cheerleaders who played harder / tougher than you

Yeah you were one of them but not as tough..

I've met a few of your teams cheerleaders ..they were leaving the set of the movie The Longest Yard ......

And yours were leaving the set of 'Boogey Nights'' you wished you were Dirk Digler..

 

[Tiger_Steve]

So glass half full. Here we go...

We have had a glass half full of inept performances for a long time leading to many passionate supporters throwing said glass towards the TV.

There. Much better.

Last week was good. Sort of. For a while.

 

[cochise]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

I'm not basing my opinion on the last 2 games though, I have watched a lot of Reynolds over the years.

To be honest I believe the biggest issue with Brooks' development was the fact during his early years he had an inexperienced half playing beside him, it is not often that you can pair two inexperience halves and get a positive result. Brooks really needed an experience half to partner him in those 1st couple of years. That was a recruitment error more than anything else and it still effects us now.

 

[TrueTiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

I'm not basing my opinion on the last 2 games though, I have watched a lot of Reynolds over the years.

To be honest I believe the biggest issue with Brooks' development was the fact during his early years he had an inexperienced half playing beside him, it is not often that you can pair two inexperience halves and get a positive result. Brooks really needed an experience half to partner him in those 1st couple of years. That was a recruitment error more than anything else and it still effects us now.

Yes agree...once Benji retires and Josh goes we really need to invest in a suitable halves partner for Brooks,having said that Madges hands have been tied and he can only field whats available and who he thinks can do the job for him...remember he is looking for a culture change,the team to play defensively and for the full 80..
It appears he is playing the trial and error game from amongst his squad hopefully he has something up his sleeve we don't know about..I recall people saying that Sam McIntyre is only CC quality and didn't impress at that level,he certainly showed guts and NRL quality against the Cows the other night,Madge might have someone else to produce yet...

 

[happy_tiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

I'm not basing my opinion on the last 2 games though, I have watched a lot of Reynolds over the years.

To be honest I believe the biggest issue with Brooks' development was the fact during his early years he had an inexperienced half playing beside him, it is not often that you can pair two inexperience halves and get a positive result. Brooks really needed an experience half to partner him in those 1st couple of years. That was a recruitment error more than anything else and it still effects us now.

Yes agree...once Benji retires and Josh goes we really need to invest in a suitable halves partner for Brooks,having said that Madges hands have been tied and he can only field whats available and who he thinks can do the job for him...remember he is looking for a culture change,the team to play defensively and for the full 80..
It appears he is playing the trial and error game from amongst his squad hopefully he has something up his sleeve we don't know about..I recall people saying that Sam McIntyre is only CC quality and didn't impress at that level,he certainly showed guts and NRL quality against the Cows the other night,Madge might have someone else to produce yet...

Seriously though they only bloke that would match OK with Brooks is playing in France ....Maloney

 

[hobbo1]

So glass half full. Here we go...

We have had a glass half full of inept performances for a long time leading to many passionate supporters throwing said glass towards the TV.

There. Much better.

Last week was good. Sort of. For a while.

I’ll drink to that 🍻

 

[TrueTiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

I'm not basing my opinion on the last 2 games though, I have watched a lot of Reynolds over the years.

To be honest I believe the biggest issue with Brooks' development was the fact during his early years he had an inexperienced half playing beside him, it is not often that you can pair two inexperience halves and get a positive result. Brooks really needed an experience half to partner him in those 1st couple of years. That was a recruitment error more than anything else and it still effects us now.

Yes agree...once Benji retires and Josh goes we really need to invest in a suitable halves partner for Brooks,having said that Madges hands have been tied and he can only field whats available and who he thinks can do the job for him...remember he is looking for a culture change,the team to play defensively and for the full 80..
It appears he is playing the trial and error game from amongst his squad hopefully he has something up his sleeve we don't know about..I recall people saying that Sam McIntyre is only CC quality and didn't impress at that level,he certainly showed guts and NRL quality against the Cows the other night,Madge might have someone else to produce yet...

Seriously though they only bloke that would match OK with Brooks is playing in France ....Maloney

So you reckon there is no one suitable in the NRL to match Brooks...only Maloney who is in France...No body at all anywhere ...gee ESL may get a call or a Kiwi waiting his turn back home..
Brooks isn't that bad a playmaker that you couldn't find a partner for him here,gee Reynolds has played a couple of games with him and they seem to fire ok ...it may take a bit more time for them to gel,who knows...

 

[TrueTiger]

So glass half full. Here we go...

We have had a glass half full of inept performances for a long time leading to many passionate supporters throwing said glass towards the TV.

There. Much better.

Last week was good. Sort of. For a while.

I’ll drink to that ?

CHEERS...

 

[happy_tiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

I'm not basing my opinion on the last 2 games though, I have watched a lot of Reynolds over the years.

To be honest I believe the biggest issue with Brooks' development was the fact during his early years he had an inexperienced half playing beside him, it is not often that you can pair two inexperience halves and get a positive result. Brooks really needed an experience half to partner him in those 1st couple of years. That was a recruitment error more than anything else and it still effects us now.

Yes agree...once Benji retires and Josh goes we really need to invest in a suitable halves partner for Brooks,having said that Madges hands have been tied and he can only field whats available and who he thinks can do the job for him...remember he is looking for a culture change,the team to play defensively and for the full 80..
It appears he is playing the trial and error game from amongst his squad hopefully he has something up his sleeve we don't know about..I recall people saying that Sam McIntyre is only CC quality and didn't impress at that level,he certainly showed guts and NRL quality against the Cows the other night,Madge might have someone else to produce yet...

Seriously though they only bloke that would match OK with Brooks is playing in France ....Maloney

So you reckon there is no one suitable in the NRL to match Brooks...only Maloney who is in France...No body at all anywhere ...gee ESL may get a call or a Kiwi waiting his turn back home..
Brooks isn't that bad a playmaker that you couldn't find a partner for him here,gee Reynolds has played a couple of games with him and they seem to fire ok ...it may take a bit more time for them to gel,who knows...

Dominant 6 who is a playmaker first and foremost .....skinny list

 

[TrueTiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

I'm not basing my opinion on the last 2 games though, I have watched a lot of Reynolds over the years.

To be honest I believe the biggest issue with Brooks' development was the fact during his early years he had an inexperienced half playing beside him, it is not often that you can pair two inexperience halves and get a positive result. Brooks really needed an experience half to partner him in those 1st couple of years. That was a recruitment error more than anything else and it still effects us now.

Yes agree...once Benji retires and Josh goes we really need to invest in a suitable halves partner for Brooks,having said that Madges hands have been tied and he can only field whats available and who he thinks can do the job for him...remember he is looking for a culture change,the team to play defensively and for the full 80..
It appears he is playing the trial and error game from amongst his squad hopefully he has something up his sleeve we don't know about..I recall people saying that Sam McIntyre is only CC quality and didn't impress at that level,he certainly showed guts and NRL quality against the Cows the other night,Madge might have someone else to produce yet...

Seriously though they only bloke that would match OK with Brooks is playing in France ....Maloney

So you reckon there is no one suitable in the NRL to match Brooks...only Maloney who is in France...No body at all anywhere ...gee ESL may get a call or a Kiwi waiting his turn back home..
Brooks isn't that bad a playmaker that you couldn't find a partner for him here,gee Reynolds has played a couple of games with him and they seem to fire ok ...it may take a bit more time for them to gel,who knows...

Dominant 6 who is a playmaker first and foremost .....skinny list

but a lot have said that Brooks is a running 5/8 playing a halfbacks role...why not find a half and let Luke play 5/8....

 

[jrtiger]

I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.

Your quite right in what you say about I said LB should be on the pine when others say JR had a bad game..it is criticism,however I was saying how Brooks has had a heck of a lot of games and chances to become our playmaker and take hold of the games and control them,whereas JR has had little game time is trying his best and doing what Madge asks,but because he made some errors after 2 games and is getting bagged for it is what I see as degrading a bloke for trying to do right...

So Brooks isn't trying to do right? Reynolds has player over 150 first grade games, played SOO, I expect more than a guy trying to do right. I don't blame him, I do not think he has the skills we need in a half. I really like the guy, I like his enthusiasm, and I personally liked what he brought to out line speed the other night. I just think we need a better attacking half.

I agree with what you are saying,LB will be an outstanding playmaker if he has someone of high quality next to him,he had Benji,but do you think Luke played his best while he was there,he now has JR and Luke is playing better by running the ball and playing whats infront of him,it is noticeable..Im not saying JR is the answer but it doesn't matter if Grub has played 150 games it is a new layout with new rules etc and JR has been on the sidelines for awhile and its not easy to get straight into it and win games because of previous reputation..

I'm not basing my opinion on the last 2 games though, I have watched a lot of Reynolds over the years.

To be honest I believe the biggest issue with Brooks' development was the fact during his early years he had an inexperienced half playing beside him, it is not often that you can pair two inexperience halves and get a positive result. Brooks really needed an experience half to partner him in those 1st couple of years. That was a recruitment error more than anything else and it still effects us now.

Yes agree...once Benji retires and Josh goes we really need to invest in a suitable halves partner for Brooks,having said that Madges hands have been tied and he can only field whats available and who he thinks can do the job for him...remember he is looking for a culture change,the team to play defensively and for the full 80..
It appears he is playing the trial and error game from amongst his squad hopefully he has something up his sleeve we don't know about..I recall people saying that Sam McIntyre is only CC quality and didn't impress at that level,he certainly showed guts and NRL quality against the Cows the other night,Madge might have someone else to produce yet...

Seriously though they only bloke that would match OK with Brooks is playing in France ....Maloney

So you reckon there is no one suitable in the NRL to match Brooks...only Maloney who is in France...No body at all anywhere ...gee ESL may get a call or a Kiwi waiting his turn back home..
Brooks isn't that bad a playmaker that you couldn't find a partner for him here,gee Reynolds has played a couple of games with him and they seem to fire ok ...it may take a bit more time for them to gel,who knows...

Dominant 6 who is a playmaker first and foremost .....skinny list

well... Foran does provide that when he stays injury free. why not sign him on a cut price deal and move Reynolds on. he'd do well with Brooks plus we have Walters, M'Bye and Doueihi who could play next to Brooks if Foz does end up going down.

 

[Tiger5150]

***BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT*** ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

Why dont you get off your high horse TT? Not only are you making the ridiculous suggestion that we cant comment and discuss negative aspects of our team and players on ***public discussion forum*** but you also throw in the superiority complex stuff about "some people" who wouldnt have a clue....blah blah blah. So we can have an opinion of it aligns with yours? Or only people who are smart like you can voice an opinion? Or we can voice our opinion about plays you dont like but not players you like? Bloody ridiculous and comes across as holier than thou.

And who was ***degrading*** players? Myself and a few others commented that he had a poor game ***and gave concrete examples*** of his poor player. It wasnt that I said Reynolds is poo, I said Reynolds had a bad game because of a, b, c, d, e, x. y and z. That is valid criticism and because it was valid criticism and I gave solid examples of why I felt he had a bad game, anyone else can then make the point that "he did x because of..." and you know....have a discussion. For god sake Tigerballs rode in to defend Reynolds, suggesting that our 34points were due to him, to which I listed in great detail why that is totally incorrect.

If we are discussing facts, things that actually happened, how the hell can that be degrading players?

 

[Tiger5150]

I thought Reynolds played ok .

So he threw the ball to a prop - and it was an error?

He threw it to a prop *on the last tackle* and yes that is an error. He got lucky that time, he did it again late in the game and possibly cost us a try.

Gee, there must be a lot of DH's making errors. I think Grant must have made 23 errors then.


I doubt Grant will ever pass it to a prop on the last. He is a good footballer.

 

[happy_tiger]

I thought Reynolds played ok .

So he threw the ball to a prop - and it was an error?


He threw it to a prop *on the last tackle* and yes that is an error. He got lucky that time, he did it again late in the game and possibly cost us a try.

Gee, there must be a lot of DH's making errors. I think Grant must have made 23 errors then.


I doubt Grant will ever pass it to a prop on the last. He is a good footballer.

He did it once against the Cows ...we scored ...Musgrove