Liverpool Home Ground?

@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205651) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205645) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205643) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205626) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205624) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205578) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205538) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205444) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205225) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205114) said:
@innsaneink said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204994) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204545) said:
@Honkylips said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204533) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202946) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202745) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202682) said:
Just play every game at our spiritual home ground or fold as a club completely.
Any other ground will never feel like Home.

They folded two clubs WT'S do not have a spiritual homd ground heres the chance to get one.

We all know Leichhardt is the Tigers spiritual home ground, anyone who has been to a Campbelltown and Leichhardt home game has FELT it.

Build a new concrete jungle and it just won't be the same.
Long live Leichhardt

Sorry but it's a dump. ***It's horrible to get to, you have to get there at 11am to get a decent*** spot, very poor facilities. Rugby League is a business and Leichhardt doesn't fit the bill.
We should move to either ANZ ,newly built stadium at Liverpool or a re-developed Campbelltown. Rugby league needs a stronger foothold in the south-west. Especially with A-League and AFL making strong inroads.

Its easy to get to. Park at ORange Grove School or Light Rail nearby.

To get a decent spot, put your money where your mouth is and fork out for membership.

Some silver membership seats were in line with the ingoal... Worthless... Pretty much the entire ground bar the main stand is poor/obstructed viewing


I am a member, my seats are not in the Main stand and I am on the 40m line, about 2m off the ground, completely unobstructed. The best RL viewing seats in the world.

I am right next to the players enclosure 8 rows back, they are the best seats that you will find anywhere.


Mate Im right next to you, lets say g;day when things are back to normal

Sounds like my seats are right with you guys as well. Section 8?

Yeah, I'm in section 8. I have sat there for a long long time. Even when they were GA seats that is where I sat.

Nice. Bout 14 years for us I think.

What row are you?

I wish I had been in those seats that long. Row E.

I'm the row behind you, I probably know you lol. I may even talk to you every game.

I’d say there is a good chance haha

I'm the guy with the big red beard
 
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205655) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205651) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205645) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205643) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205626) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205624) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205578) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205538) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205444) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205225) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205114) said:
@innsaneink said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204994) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204545) said:
@Honkylips said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204533) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202946) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202745) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202682) said:
Just play every game at our spiritual home ground or fold as a club completely.
Any other ground will never feel like Home.

They folded two clubs WT'S do not have a spiritual homd ground heres the chance to get one.

We all know Leichhardt is the Tigers spiritual home ground, anyone who has been to a Campbelltown and Leichhardt home game has FELT it.

Build a new concrete jungle and it just won't be the same.
Long live Leichhardt

Sorry but it's a dump. ***It's horrible to get to, you have to get there at 11am to get a decent*** spot, very poor facilities. Rugby League is a business and Leichhardt doesn't fit the bill.
We should move to either ANZ ,newly built stadium at Liverpool or a re-developed Campbelltown. Rugby league needs a stronger foothold in the south-west. Especially with A-League and AFL making strong inroads.

Its easy to get to. Park at ORange Grove School or Light Rail nearby.

To get a decent spot, put your money where your mouth is and fork out for membership.

Some silver membership seats were in line with the ingoal... Worthless... Pretty much the entire ground bar the main stand is poor/obstructed viewing


I am a member, my seats are not in the Main stand and I am on the 40m line, about 2m off the ground, completely unobstructed. The best RL viewing seats in the world.

I am right next to the players enclosure 8 rows back, they are the best seats that you will find anywhere.


Mate Im right next to you, lets say g;day when things are back to normal

Sounds like my seats are right with you guys as well. Section 8?

Yeah, I'm in section 8. I have sat there for a long long time. Even when they were GA seats that is where I sat.

Nice. Bout 14 years for us I think.

What row are you?

I wish I had been in those seats that long. Row E.

I'm the row behind you, I probably know you lol. I may even talk to you every game.

I’d say there is a good chance haha

I'm the guy with the big red beard

Definitely sit right in front of you mate, been chatting for years ?
 
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205402) said:
I’m just of the belief that playing at the one ground 12 times a years gives the players familiarity and a real home ground advantage. What’s the advantage of three home grounds?

It's an interesting question. If you have 3 home grounds, why can't they be all as "home groundy" as each other? Is there any particular reason why you cannot develop more than one "fortress"?

And on the other hand, if you end up choosing just 1 home ground that is shared by other clubs, e.g. ANZ or BankWest, can you truly make it a fortress? There will be other clubs that might play there, be just as "familiar" with it as you are.
 
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205659) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205655) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205651) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205645) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205643) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205626) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205624) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205578) said:
@BalmainJnr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205538) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205444) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205225) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205114) said:
@innsaneink said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204994) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204545) said:
@Honkylips said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1204533) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202946) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202745) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1202682) said:
Just play every game at our spiritual home ground or fold as a club completely.
Any other ground will never feel like Home.

They folded two clubs WT'S do not have a spiritual homd ground heres the chance to get one.

We all know Leichhardt is the Tigers spiritual home ground, anyone who has been to a Campbelltown and Leichhardt home game has FELT it.

Build a new concrete jungle and it just won't be the same.
Long live Leichhardt

Sorry but it's a dump. ***It's horrible to get to, you have to get there at 11am to get a decent*** spot, very poor facilities. Rugby League is a business and Leichhardt doesn't fit the bill.
We should move to either ANZ ,newly built stadium at Liverpool or a re-developed Campbelltown. Rugby league needs a stronger foothold in the south-west. Especially with A-League and AFL making strong inroads.

Its easy to get to. Park at ORange Grove School or Light Rail nearby.

To get a decent spot, put your money where your mouth is and fork out for membership.

Some silver membership seats were in line with the ingoal... Worthless... Pretty much the entire ground bar the main stand is poor/obstructed viewing


I am a member, my seats are not in the Main stand and I am on the 40m line, about 2m off the ground, completely unobstructed. The best RL viewing seats in the world.

I am right next to the players enclosure 8 rows back, they are the best seats that you will find anywhere.


Mate Im right next to you, lets say g;day when things are back to normal

Sounds like my seats are right with you guys as well. Section 8?

Yeah, I'm in section 8. I have sat there for a long long time. Even when they were GA seats that is where I sat.

Nice. Bout 14 years for us I think.

What row are you?

I wish I had been in those seats that long. Row E.

I'm the row behind you, I probably know you lol. I may even talk to you every game.

I’d say there is a good chance haha

I'm the guy with the big red beard

Definitely sit right in front of you mate, been chatting for years ?

I was guessing that may have been you lol
 
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207145) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205402) said:
I’m just of the belief that playing at the one ground 12 times a years gives the players familiarity and a real home ground advantage. What’s the advantage of three home grounds?

It's an interesting question. If you have 3 home grounds, why can't they be all as "home groundy" as each other? Is there any particular reason why you cannot develop more than one "fortress"?

And on the other hand, if you end up choosing just 1 home ground that is shared by other clubs, e.g. ANZ or BankWest, can you truly make it a fortress? There will be other clubs that might play there, be just as "familiar" with it as you are.

How could anything feel familiar if you only play there 3 times a year?
 
Moving the GF is an cheap empty threat from the NRL. They will never do it - the uproar would be immense. Simple fact is the gov has already given the NRL two shiny new stadiums - now it wants 8? No chance.

There are lots of people that need jobs that don't work in construction. Let the private sector cover construction - there's already way too much corruptions in gov construction gigs.
 
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207233) said:
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207145) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205402) said:
I’m just of the belief that playing at the one ground 12 times a years gives the players familiarity and a real home ground advantage. What’s the advantage of three home grounds?

It's an interesting question. If you have 3 home grounds, why can't they be all as "home groundy" as each other? Is there any particular reason why you cannot develop more than one "fortress"?

And on the other hand, if you end up choosing just 1 home ground that is shared by other clubs, e.g. ANZ or BankWest, can you truly make it a fortress? There will be other clubs that might play there, be just as "familiar" with it as you are.

How could anything feel familiar if you only play there 3 times a year?

I only visit my in-laws once every 2 or 3 years, because they live overseas, but very familiar when I do, because they haven't moved.

But I'm not saying it's definitive, I just asked the question, is there such a difference between 3 matches or 4 matches or 12 matches? Why can't you feel advantaged at more than 1 location? The Origin teams only play at home twice max per year, and for many of those players it's not their club home ground, yet there's a real advantage when you can max out the crowd and get as one-sided as possible, with real passionate fan noise.

I would probably argue that a fortress is a location you don't share with any other clubs and which has special characteristics that make it difficult or uncomfortable for visiting teams. Not just the fact you can win games, but a very definite advantage of the location where you are.

For example Leichhardt, at one point we had quite a good win rate there (which I think, without checking the stats, has been evaporated in recent years). And theoretically you could make Leichhardt a "fortress" because it does have some characteristics that could un-nerve visiting teams, e.g. antiquated facilities, very close parochial crowd etc. But Balmain played at LO every 2nd week during the 90s and it meant diddly-squat when our roster was so below average. Manly had Brookie as a fortress when they were a good side, but the past couple of years, not so much.

The alternative for WT specifically is a shared centralised ground, which I argue would probably never be able to be made a fortress, simply because it's shared.

The likely common denominator on home-ground advantage for Sydney teams is probably the crowd. Especially as we've already seen home-ground advantages disappear during COVID, with minimal crowds. So as long as you can get your crowd large and local, that might be the major consideration, not which suburb you are in.

Or to put it another way - are Tigers unsuccessful because of multiple home grounds? It's a fair argument to say a single home ground wouldn't hurt, yet in 2005, 2010, 2011 the multiple home grounds didn't matter at all. Why is that? Broncos have had a poor past decade of results, by their own standards, and they have one of the few clear "fortresses" in the league.

So it makes me think we probably need to focus more on the roster itself and our weekly on-field output, stability in the coaching and management, before we worry so much about the grounds.

Not that I'm against a single home ground, I'll still sign up if that's the decision we make in 2 years. Probable main issue there is the unknown landscape post-COVID of the stadia plan, with only the SFS guaranteed now.
 
ive had my same seat at LO since 1988 lol
i dont think the nrl will move the GF as some have said the uproar would be huge. Also dont think nrl will pump money into 4 or 6 suburban grounds either.
in relation to bankwest as some has said just dont go into parra leagues ever dont give them a cent of your money. if you do want a punt for a drink then go to woolpack beforehand etc.
 
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207696) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207233) said:
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207145) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1205402) said:
I’m just of the belief that playing at the one ground 12 times a years gives the players familiarity and a real home ground advantage. What’s the advantage of three home grounds?

It's an interesting question. If you have 3 home grounds, why can't they be all as "home groundy" as each other? Is there any particular reason why you cannot develop more than one "fortress"?

And on the other hand, if you end up choosing just 1 home ground that is shared by other clubs, e.g. ANZ or BankWest, can you truly make it a fortress? There will be other clubs that might play there, be just as "familiar" with it as you are.

How could anything feel familiar if you only play there 3 times a year?

I only visit my in-laws once every 2 or 3 years, because they live overseas, but very familiar when I do, because they haven't moved.

But I'm not saying it's definitive, I just asked the question, is there such a difference between 3 matches or 4 matches or 12 matches? Why can't you feel advantaged at more than 1 location? The Origin teams only play at home twice max per year, and for many of those players it's not their club home ground, yet there's a real advantage when you can max out the crowd and get as one-sided as possible, with real passionate fan noise.

I would probably argue that a fortress is a location you don't share with any other clubs and which has special characteristics that make it difficult or uncomfortable for visiting teams. Not just the fact you can win games, but a very definite advantage of the location where you are.

For example Leichhardt, at one point we had quite a good win rate there (which I think, without checking the stats, has been evaporated in recent years). And theoretically you could make Leichhardt a "fortress" because it does have some characteristics that could un-nerve visiting teams, e.g. antiquated facilities, very close parochial crowd etc. But Balmain played at LO every 2nd week during the 90s and it meant diddly-squat when our roster was so below average. Manly had Brookie as a fortress when they were a good side, but the past couple of years, not so much.

The alternative for WT specifically is a shared centralised ground, which I argue would probably never be able to be made a fortress, simply because it's shared.

The likely common denominator on home-ground advantage for Sydney teams is probably the crowd. Especially as we've already seen home-ground advantages disappear during COVID, with minimal crowds. So as long as you can get your crowd large and local, that might be the major consideration, not which suburb you are in.

Or to put it another way - are Tigers unsuccessful because of multiple home grounds? It's a fair argument to say a single home ground wouldn't hurt, yet in 2005, 2010, 2011 the multiple home grounds didn't matter at all. Why is that? Broncos have had a poor past decade of results, by their own standards, and they have one of the few clear "fortresses" in the league.

So it makes me think we probably need to focus more on the roster itself and our weekly on-field output, stability in the coaching and management, before we worry so much about the grounds.

Not that I'm against a single home ground, I'll still sign up if that's the decision we make in 2 years. Probable main issue there is the unknown landscape post-COVID of the stadia plan, with only the SFS guaranteed now.

I'm not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.
 
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.
 
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207803) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.

Bankwest or Homebush could be decided right now.
 
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207822) said:
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207803) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.

Bankwest or Homebush could be decided right now.

Reducing home grounds is definately in the clubs plans but I feel we are still at least 12 months from a decision.
 
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207824) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207822) said:
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207803) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.

Bankwest or Homebush could be decided right now.

Reducing home grounds is definately in the clubs plans but I feel we are still at least 12 months from a decision.

They been slowly pulling the bandaid off from the Mayer days.
 
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207825) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207824) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207822) said:
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207803) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.

Bankwest or Homebush could be decided right now.

Reducing home grounds is definately in the clubs plans but I feel we are still at least 12 months from a decision.

They been slowly pulling the bandaid off from the Mayer days.

I think that is because there is no perfect solution.
 
given covid situation if the government spends money upgrading stadiums now they will be hammered.
Two years time dust settles and we will have a chouce of parra or homebush i reckon
 
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207829) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207825) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207824) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207822) said:
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207803) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.

Bankwest or Homebush could be decided right now.

Reducing home grounds is definately in the clubs plans but I feel we are still at least 12 months from a decision.

They been slowly pulling the bandaid off from the Mayer days.

I think that is because there is no perfect solution.

Its easy for 14 other clubs to choose.
 
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207843) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207829) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207825) said:
@cochise said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207824) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207822) said:
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207803) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.

Bankwest or Homebush could be decided right now.

Reducing home grounds is definately in the clubs plans but I feel we are still at least 12 months from a decision.

They been slowly pulling the bandaid off from the Mayer days.

I think that is because there is no perfect solution.

Its easy for 14 other clubs to choose.

We are in a very unique situation though
 
@jirskyr said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207803) said:
@gallagher said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207709) said:
I’m not suggesting one home ground is more important than our roster. But its something that needs to be fixed IMO and it could be fixed today.

The only one-ground fix you can achieve today is BankWest for every home match for the next 2 years, if you are ok with that. **I remember last time Parramatta Stadium was our home ground, none too popular.**

We are still under contract to Events NSW until 10 years is up.

God only knows what the stadia landscape looks like in 2 years from now, but you might get your one-ground decision around then.

If that's the Sydney Tigers days i can understand why. What a bog average era for "Sydney".
Still if i remember correctly, they moved there as the research at the time suggested some massive amount of people that attended Leichhardt actually drove past Parramatta to get there. Never felt like home to me and neither does BankWest. I will say though, if we played all our home games at BankWest then maybe that would change.
 
Play the out of town teams at bankwest or anz and the big sydney teams parra dogs saints at LO and CSS it will creat atmosphere and lock out limit many away fans
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Liverpool Home Ground?](/post/1207865) said:
Play the out of town teams at bankwest or anz and the big sydney teams parra dogs saints at LO and CSS it will creat atmosphere and lock out limit many away fans

That has very little chance of happening.
 

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