Lost opportunity in Macarthur

[diedpretty]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next

So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

 

[Harvey]

I was actually down Wests leagues at Campbelltown and this was the subject of a bit of discussion around our table.

The Souths fan was rubbing our noses in it while a couple of other blokes that are members of both the Macarthur Bulls and Wests were disgusted by the lack of vision shown by the club.

I think that there have been a number of posts previously on the subject, but Wests Tigers lack of involvement in, and commitment to the South West has been evident for year. They are not seen as a local team in any way shape or form and this was just another poor decision that reinforces that.

The Bulls have been at least 12 months in the planning and there was plenty of time to negotiate a commercial partnership, but we missed that boat.

 

[innsaneink]

Considering south's are probably the most successful Sydney club membership wise this isn't something to disregard lightly.

It's embarrassing

 

[cochise]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

the future is not campbletown or Leichardt it is the bigger stadiums etc he'll roosters don't even have juniors
we don't play at Leichhardt every week doesn't mean we should lose Holy Cross as a nursery likewise st Gregory's campbletown

 

[happy_tiger]

Thats the issue ..when you have 5 home grounds .....you don't have a home

This club just doesn't get it .....still not listening to the Fans desires

 

[cochise]

Thats the issue ..when you have 5 home grounds .....you don't have a home

This club just doesn't get it .....still not listening to the Fans desires

Have you told the club your desires?

 

[happy_tiger]

Thats the issue ..when you have 5 home grounds .....you don't have a home

This club just doesn't get it .....still not listening to the Fans desires

Have you told the club your desires?

No someone else ...but they said they'd pass it on ...cost me $4.95/min ......weird

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

the club must know how many members are from the south West of Sydney maybe hence why rlthis decision was passed up on
we have the COE at concord and targeting traditional magpie territory in Lidcombe and ashfield and we cover ryde etc

 

[cochise]

Thats the issue ..when you have 5 home grounds .....you don't have a home

This club just doesn't get it .....still not listening to the Fans desires

Have you told the club your desires?

No someone else ...but they said they'd pass it on ...cost me $4.95/min ......weird

Did they say they would pass it on, or that they were passing on your desires? lol

 

[happy_tiger]

Both for that amount of money ...5 hours later lol

 

[JC99]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The club could easily engage more with the area..... a large majority of functions, member days etc are done at Leichhardt or in that area.

They barely even advertise Campbelltown games, I see more advertising for Penrith games in the area than Tigers yet everytime there's a Leichhardt game it's all over social media and they make it a huge deal.

Not trying to make it a Wests V Balmain thing that's before my time but the club definitely could try harder to have some more outreach in the area to the fans, and that's shown with Rabbitohs snatching up this business opportunity. They're not dumb they know how to get more members.

A lot of the junior systems have been somewhat unorganised from what I've seen/heard from the group 6 comp at least. The GSR Tigers thing they do seems to be a step behind all the other teams in the competition

 

[happy_tiger]

I guess though the amount of fans isn't the issue ...the amount of wins every season will fix that if we get enough

We might be in a holding pattern in 2021

 

[JC99]

I guess though the amount of fans isn't the issue ...the amount of wins every season will fix that if we get enough

We might be in a holding pattern in 2021

We get decent enough crowds and membership rates even after 10 years of failure. We're one of the most watched teams too, if we could become a top 4 teams I reckon most games would be close to capacity. Doesn't mean they should ignore an area though

 

[cochise]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The club could easily engage more with the area..... a large majority of functions, member days etc are done at Leichhardt or in that area.

They barely even advertise Campbelltown games, I see more advertising for Penrith games in the area than Tigers yet everytime there's a Leichhardt game it's all over social media and they make it a huge deal.

Not trying to make it a Wests V Balmain thing that's before my time but the club definitely could try harder to have some more outreach in the area to the fans, and that's shown with Rabbitohs snatching up this business opportunity. They're not dumb they know how to get more members.

A lot of the junior systems have been somewhat unorganised from what I've seen/heard from the group 6 comp at least. The GSR Tigers thing they do seems to be a step behind all the other teams in the competition

I do know that they make considerably less money when they play at Campbelltown compared to the other venues, so that may be a factor as well.

 

[happy_tiger]

The priority has to be winning football games after the lack of success since 2011

Honestly if it isn't their No 1 priority ..we have the wrong board at the helm

Finals footy fixes a hell of a lot of issues at this club

 

[JC99]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The club could easily engage more with the area..... a large majority of functions, member days etc are done at Leichhardt or in that area.

They barely even advertise Campbelltown games, I see more advertising for Penrith games in the area than Tigers yet everytime there's a Leichhardt game it's all over social media and they make it a huge deal.

Not trying to make it a Wests V Balmain thing that's before my time but the club definitely could try harder to have some more outreach in the area to the fans, and that's shown with Rabbitohs snatching up this business opportunity. They're not dumb they know how to get more members.

A lot of the junior systems have been somewhat unorganised from what I've seen/heard from the group 6 comp at least. The GSR Tigers thing they do seems to be a step behind all the other teams in the competition

I do know that they make considerably less money when they play at Campbelltown compared to the other venues, so that may be a factor as well.

Probably. I'm with you guys, make it one home ground. Surely the club and most fans can understand that it's the only way forward to have our own home base and a good sized new stadium. Not gonna start the arguments of which one though ?

 

[Harvey]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

No we don't. With 2 kids at schools in the local area I can tell you that they have regular visits from the GWS Giants, there was a 6 week (one day a week) soccer skills program that included male and female players from the wanderers (before the Bulls entered the A-league) and there has been a 1 NRL skills session. When I asked the kids were tigers players there, they said no, It might have been people from the NRL or they might have been Bulldogs players because they were wearing blue and white.

There are next to no training sessions out here, next to know community events, no fan days or members days. That might be a start in terms of what people would like the club to do.

It is like the club expects the area to be grateful for the fact that they play 3 (poorly promoted) games out here. Is that supposed to drive the engagement with the club?

Apart from these games there are 2 or 3 clubs that have better engagement with the south west, and you will find that they are the ones that pick the eyes out of the junior competition and leave the scraps for Wests.

 

[cochise]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The club could easily engage more with the area..... a large majority of functions, member days etc are done at Leichhardt or in that area.

They barely even advertise Campbelltown games, I see more advertising for Penrith games in the area than Tigers yet everytime there's a Leichhardt game it's all over social media and they make it a huge deal.

Not trying to make it a Wests V Balmain thing that's before my time but the club definitely could try harder to have some more outreach in the area to the fans, and that's shown with Rabbitohs snatching up this business opportunity. They're not dumb they know how to get more members.

A lot of the junior systems have been somewhat unorganised from what I've seen/heard from the group 6 comp at least. The GSR Tigers thing they do seems to be a step behind all the other teams in the competition

I do know that they make considerably less money when they play at Campbelltown compared to the other venues, so that may be a factor as well.

Probably. I'm with you guys, make it one home ground. Surely the club and most fans can understand that it's the only way forward to have our own home base and a good sized new stadium. Not gonna start the arguments of which one though ?

No I usually start that argument lol. I agree the club probably needs to do more in the area but there also needs to be buy in from the community, including the council and playing favourite to the new soccer team probably didn't help the situation.

 

[JC99]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

No we don't. With 2 kids at schools in the local area I can tell you that they have regular visits from the GWS Giants, there was a 6 week (one day a week) soccer skills program that included male and female players from the wanderers (before the Bulls entered the A-league) and there has been a 1 NRL skills session. When I asked the kids were tigers players there, they said no, It might have been people from the NRL or they might have been Bulldogs players because they were wearing blue and white.

There are next to no training sessions out here, next to know community events, no fan days or members days. That might be a start in terms of what people would like the club to do.

It is like the club expects the area to be grateful for the fact that they play 3 (poorly promoted) games out here. Is that supposed to drive the engagement with the club?

Apart from these games there are 2 or 3 clubs that have better engagement with the south west, and you will find that they are the ones that pick the eyes out of the junior competition and leave the scraps for Wests.

Glad I'm not the only one who sees all this happening