Lote signed

I am all for this re-signing if Lote can have an injury free year and regain some of his 2010 mojo.

The man is a dual international.
 
@Rambo2714 said:
In proven ability Lote beats Beau
In potential ability Lote beats Beau

Beau beats Lote in recent form , that is all
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My recent form beats Elvis presley too.That is all.Yes that is all that counts.Im trying to win the 2013 premiership not the 2007.
 
Gee i don't know. At their best Lote is a much better player than Beau Ryan but on 2011-2012 and moving forward Ryan seems a much wiser use of money. I can only think that there is some bigger plan to get these NYC guys coming up through first grade so by 2014 they are starters.
 
It all comes down to fitness. When he's played in 2011-12 he's been coming back from injury and he's looked sluggish and jittery. But look at 2010, he was fit and he fired. So the key to me is getting him fit and through the pre season unscathed. Yes, i know 2010 is not 2013 and he has aged a little because of that, but if fit, i still believe he'll be valuable.
 
@Yossarian said:
Gee i don't know. At their best Lote is a much better player than Beau Ryan but on 2011-2012 and moving forward Ryan seems a much wiser use of money. I can only think that there is some bigger plan to get these NYC guys coming up through first grade so by 2014 they are starters.
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I kind of agree , but I don't think we could have kept beau on a 1 or 2 year deal , the short deal with Lote makes him more attractive

with koro, Nufo and others coming through we dont need a winger on a long term deal
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When asked humpty was a little shocked when they told him Beau had signed with the sharkies. So if you can take his word and he resigned Lote as well that means they were really going to go into 2013 with Lote, Beau, Koro Utai, the two reggies, and Grant.

That is a lot of wingers in one squad!
 
So from the horses mouth himself, Lote has signed nothing!

Lote Tuqiri ‏@LoteTuqiri
Just to clarify, I haven't signed anything @FSNEWS_NRL
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before he got injured he was playing good footy. the majority of the time his fumbles were a result of the stupid cast he had on his arm….

1 year contract is ok, i dont have an issue with it.
 
@Tigersmurf said:
I thought it was well known that Lote wanted a 2 year deal. Why would he now settle for 1?
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It's possible that no other club is prepared to offer him a 2 year deal either.
 
Based on the public knowledge, our administration looks very ordinary. :frowning:
- How could they negotiated 3yr contract with Ryan and than suddenly decide that he is not needed?
- How could they offered CW multi year contract and now decide to break it"?
- Similar situation was the last year with Gibbs, again why?
- Why was Moltzen told to shop around and than suddenly offered 3yr extension?

To me this indicates that there is no strategic thinking behind and they play by ear :frowning:

How come we have salary cap problems, year after year, accounting is not brain surgery :slight_smile:
 
My guess is they had the paperwork drawn up giving Beau Ryan a three year deal with a well earned pay rise. That would have been sitting in Humpty's in tray unsigned till the call came from the physio giving Tuqiri the green light for 2013\. Sorry son, it's off the shire with you.

Off on a tangent for a second, how does Cronulla still have a team? There was a big cleanout at the end of the 90's of non performers like the Tigers, Magpies, Bears, Steelers etc. How did the sharks survive that one?
 
Tuquiri seems pretty adamant that he hasn't signed anything yet. This could all be a blow up for nothing.
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@On Benji We Trust said:
Based on the public knowledge, our administration looks very ordinary. :frowning:
- How could they negotiated 3yr contract with Ryan and than suddenly decide that he is not needed?
- How could they offered CW multi year contract and now decide to break it"?
- Similar situation was the last year with Gibbs, again why?
- Why was Moltzen told to shop around and than suddenly offered 3yr extension?

To me this indicates that there is no strategic thinking behind and they play by ear :frowning:

How come we have salary cap problems, year after year, accounting is not brain surgery :slight_smile:
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My understanding on your first point is that we offered Ryan a 3 year deal and the Sharks offered more money. That is a no brainer for Ryan. Hardly the WT's fault.

Second point: Heino was told that at the end of his contract (end of 2013) he would not be offered any extension. Blind Freddy could see that his form did not warrant any more extension. I am of the opinion, that the WT's told him that if he could get a longer contract at another club, they would release him from his 2012 contract. That, in my opinion, is called looking after a long serving player.
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Third point: Gibbs form did not warrant his retention. He has played some good footy at the Sharks, but most players do when they change clubs. Gibbs was a good defender in the middle of the paddock, but he was never going to win you a premiership. He has not scored a try since 2005 for God's sake.
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Point four: I have no idea about that one. Whoever was responsible for resigning Moltzen should be shown the door immediately.

As far as the salary cap is concerned, I agree that there needs to be changes to that department, and quickly.
 
@magpiecol said:
@On Benji We Trust said:
Based on the public knowledge, our administration looks very ordinary. :frowning:
- How could they negotiated 3yr contract with Ryan and than suddenly decide that he is not needed?
- How could they offered CW multi year contract and now decide to break it"?
- Similar situation was the last year with Gibbs, again why?
- Why was Moltzen told to shop around and than suddenly offered 3yr extension?

To me this indicates that there is no strategic thinking behind and they play by ear :frowning:

How come we have salary cap problems, year after year, accounting is not brain surgery :slight_smile:

My understanding on your first point is that we offered Ryan a 3 year deal and the Sharks offered more money. That is a no brainer for Ryan. Hardly the WT's fault.

Second point: Heino was told that at the end of his contract (end of 2013) he would not be offered any extension. Blind Freddy could see that his form did not warrant any more extension. I am of the opinion, that the WT's told him that if he could get a longer contract at another club, they would release him from his 2012 contract. That, in my opinion, is called looking after a long serving player.
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Third point: Gibbs form did not warrant his retention. He has played some good footy at the Sharks, but most players do when they change clubs. Gibbs was a good defender in the middle of the paddock, but he was never going to win you a premiership. He has not scored a try since 2005 for God's sake.
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Point four: I have no idea about that one. Whoever was responsible for resigning Moltzen should be shown the door immediately.

As far as the salary cap is concerned, I agree that there needs to be changes to that department, and quickly.
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Well said MC
 
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