Luke Brooks Dive

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I fail to see how it was a try, if you watch the play Lawrence follows Hopoate until Brooks is impeded by Gower which forces Lawrence to move in on Norman, creating the gap for Hopoate to run through, if Brooks isn't taken out then Lawrence may not have to move in and he can continue to follow Hopoate.

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I fail to see how it was a try, if you watch the play Lawrence follows Hopoate until Brooks is impeded by Gower which forces Lawrence to move in on Norman, creating the gap for Hopoate to run through, if Brooks isn't taken out then Lawrence may not have to move in and he can continue to follow Hopoate.

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Blah blah blah!!
I have watch brooks alot during his development, and he's no diver!!
Tough as they come wont step back, but no diver….
Hayne, bird, gallen there all divers..not brooks!
What about the penalty from in front when Anasta was pushed of the bomb!! That would of had us up by 6!! The forward pass that led to paras last try from buttercup hayne??
Theey had their chances and failed bad luck, suck it UP!!!
 
@tigeru said:
I fail to see how it was a try, if you watch the play Lawrence follows Hopoate until Brooks is impeded by Gower which forces Lawrence to move in on Norman, creating the gap for Hopoate to run through, if Brooks isn't taken out then Lawrence may not have to move in and he can continue to follow Hopoate.

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A Lawrence defensive decision should never be taken into account on any borderline decision… he came up trumps a few times on the weekend rushing in, but every opposition should be looking to exploit him if they arent already.
 
@happy tiger said:
Look I thought it was a try

Just my opinion , but it was nice to get a 50/50 call go our way
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Interesting. I didnt. But In my view the NRL has been too lenient on decoy runners in the past 5 years. Once a decoy runner hits the line and interferes with defenders it should always be obstruction.

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@jirskyr said:
I don't understand anybody sticking up for Parra in this situation.

It is utter BS that people think dummy runner can make contact with defenders and get away with it. You are a dummy runner, you are not allowed to contact defenders.
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Parra scored a few minutes later anyway, they can't have both those tries.
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This is all 100% correct.

I'm with you and the whole thing pisses me off.

You can not have attacking players running into almost stationary defenders and a coach bitching and moaning about being on the inside shoulder.

Its obvious this is what he has instructed his players to do, but instead of taking responsibility for his clumsy reserve grade prop executing it wrong he hammers a young 19yo kid who did nothing wrong.

Even if he did fall down a bit exaggerated after contact so bloody what, Hayne and Sandow do this type of thing every game.
 
50/50 call - there's millions of them every game. Refs call.
If you're a Parra fan suck it up.
If you're a tigers fan take it. Coz it's likely to go against us next week.
Move on.

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@Hear The Roar said:
Yet Brooks still says
"It was 50/50" and "I don't *think* so"

He's not too sure that "it is completely because of Gower"

End of the decoy runner I say. There will be flops galore in the next few weeks.

Also he was NEVER going to make that tackle on Norman (who is not the Parra fullback BTW)
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OK Norman then, I was at the game, I thought from my seat that Hayne gave the last pass. Don't come on here like a smart ar$e and argue the toss over who gave the pass.

Best part is, not only do I think I am correct, but the video refs agree.

Your doomsday comment about decoys is unfounded, Greg Bird must have done 4 or 5 dives when the black/white interpretation first came in (and then was removed); it didn't even remotely stop the decoys back then. Runners are just better at not making contact.

The reality is that 95% of the time players do not dive, because they don't have enough time to weigh up whether diving is acceptable or not in the current situation. Most players will stay on their feet and try and make a tackle - sure they may _wished_ they had dived, but it is not an easy thing to consciously and consistently do.

Further to this, all obstructions are ruled on video, so if you look like you dived, they will award a try. Only proper authentic contact can lead to a believable falling over.
 
"Best part is, not only do I think I am correct, but the video refs agree."

Except for the ref on the field … and every commentator on TV :wink:

Take your 2 points, but don't tell me he didn't dive, even he wasn't sure!
 
betcha if hayne was asked 'was the pass you threw in the leadup to the last parra try forward?' he would say 'not sure'. If he said 'no' he'd be lying through his teeth - & of course he would never do that…
 
One of the most straight forward obstructions ive seen.

Brooks was heading toward the ball carrier along with Lawrence heading to the man outside the ball carrier Hopoate. As soon as Brooks tripped Lawrence changed and came in on the ball carrier allowing a gap for Hoppa. If Brooks doesnt get tripped Lawrence stays on Hoppa. It was blatant.
 
I don't think Brooks to a dive. He was run into.
Hayne is a special at gamesmanship. Ever time he is tackled he tries to take an extra two metres. It was funny when Luani wouldn't let him. He had three attempts. Luani stood his ground and wouldn't let him cheat.
My favourite Hayne moment was when to opposite was attaching. Parra could get back into the defensive line, so Hayne grabs a second ball off the ball boy. Throws it on the field. The ref blows the whistle for time out, as Parra get back on side. Classic Hayne.
 
@Hear The Roar said:
"Best part is, not only do I think I am correct, but the video refs agree."

Except for the ref on the field … and every commentator on TV :wink:

Take your 2 points, but don't tell me he didn't dive, even he wasn't sure!
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suck it up , you got beat by a reserve grade side :laughing: :righton:
 
Watching at the game on the replay screen and you just knew the try would be disallowed …. Particularly when Stephen Clarke is the video ref .... He even hated awarding tries when he was on the field.
 
After watching it a few more times I'm certain Brookes didn't take a dive. He's watching the ball, as he should. As the ball goes to Norman he turns his head and BAM! He had no time to even think about taking a dive. He was blind sided. The call was correct. It was no try.
 
Poor loser, time for them to move on, if they want to improve. They had plenty of opportunity to win games but killed off most of heir opportunities.They should be looking at themselves instead of blaming others for the game that got away. They won't be another chance for them this year.
 
@Hear The Roar said:
"Best part is, not only do I think I am correct, but the video refs agree."

Except for the ref on the field … and every commentator on TV :wink:

Take your 2 points, but don't tell me he didn't dive, even he wasn't sure!
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He didn't dive.

How about the actual quote, so you can stop being a muppet.

Brooks denied any suggestion he had dived. ‘‘I don’t think so,’’ Brooks said. ‘‘He ran into me. I couldn’t do anything else.’’

As you were happy to provide real life examples earlier:
Does Hear the Roar know what he's talking about? "I don't think so."
Are their aliens on planet Mars? "I don't think so."
Can Parra do anything except sulk and sit below us on the table? "I don't think so"
 
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