Luke Brooks - Mega Thread

[cochise]

Brooks requests a release and you don't have to pay him a cent to leave... far too good an opportunity to pass up

Brooks being in the team or not makes very little difference to us making the 8 or not.... hasn't helped once in the last 8 years

You sure Mbye asked for a release pretty widely reported we are paying for him..

Tigers happy to send him away, gave him permission to speak to other clubs. Tigers want to keep Brooks and he wants to leave... we didn't pay for Aloiai or Matterson to play elsewhere, same situation.

The other clubs were willing to pay Aloiai and Matterson more than what they got at the Tigers, Newcastle won't be willing to do that so is a different situation.

Pearce leaving frees up $600k for them... is Brooks not on $650k @Geo ? They have the money there for him if he wants it.

They will not be paying what he is on, you know that.

When has a club ever unwillingly let a player go and PAID THEM to play at their new club? It doesn't happen. Unless tigers agree to let him go (which it sounds like they don't want that) then they won't be paying for him. They might agree to let him go and chip in something small but if the letter sheens sent out is anything to go by they want him staying.

He can't go anywhere without the Tigers agreeing to let him go?

Difference if the club is willing to let them go or not though. I cannot remember a club not wanting to let someone go but having to pay them to play elsewhere. It doesn't happen

Anyway, I think tigers will end up paying very little of his contract next year either way if he goes. They hold the cards here and if they're smart they get a good deal out of this

We need better than Hastings/ Madden though mate, can't go in with that.

Glad the downvote option has been removed for the post I'm about to make lol:

*If* Brooks left. While Doueihi and Talau are out: Roll with with Hastings half, Laurie 5/8, Nofa fullback, Gildart and AJ centres, Ken Maumalo and James Roberts on the wing. Gives Madden a bit more time in reggies, and if the whole thing is a catastrophe you can bring Madden into the halves and put Laurie back at fullback.

Yuck lol

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Brooks requests a release and you don't have to pay him a cent to leave... far too good an opportunity to pass up

Brooks being in the team or not makes very little difference to us making the 8 or not.... hasn't helped once in the last 8 years

You sure Mbye asked for a release pretty widely reported we are paying for him..

Tigers happy to send him away, gave him permission to speak to other clubs. Tigers want to keep Brooks and he wants to leave... we didn't pay for Aloiai or Matterson to play elsewhere, same situation.

The other clubs were willing to pay Aloiai and Matterson more than what they got at the Tigers, Newcastle won't be willing to do that so is a different situation.

Pearce leaving frees up $600k for them... is Brooks not on $650k @Geo ? They have the money there for him if he wants it.

They will not be paying what he is on, you know that.

When has a club ever unwillingly let a player go and PAID THEM to play at their new club? It doesn't happen. Unless tigers agree to let him go (which it sounds like they don't want that) then they won't be paying for him. They might agree to let him go and chip in something small but if the letter sheens sent out is anything to go by they want him staying.

He can't go anywhere without the Tigers agreeing to let him go?

Difference if the club is willing to let them go or not though. I cannot remember a club not wanting to let someone go but having to pay them to play elsewhere. It doesn't happen

Anyway, I think tigers will end up paying very little of his contract next year either way if he goes. They hold the cards here and if they're smart they get a good deal out of this

We need better than Hastings/ Madden though mate, can't go in with that.

Glad the downvote option has been removed for the post I'm about to make lol:

*If* Brooks left. While Doueihi and Talau are out: Roll with with Hastings half, Laurie 5/8, Nofa fullback, Gildart and AJ centres, Ken Maumalo and James Roberts on the wing. Gives Madden a bit more time in reggies, and if the whole thing is a catastrophe you can bring Madden into the halves and put Laurie back at fullback.

That would actually be better than running with Madden.

 

[cochise]

Brooks requests a release and you don't have to pay him a cent to leave... far too good an opportunity to pass up

Brooks being in the team or not makes very little difference to us making the 8 or not.... hasn't helped once in the last 8 years

You sure Mbye asked for a release pretty widely reported we are paying for him..

Tigers happy to send him away, gave him permission to speak to other clubs. Tigers want to keep Brooks and he wants to leave... we didn't pay for Aloiai or Matterson to play elsewhere, same situation.

The other clubs were willing to pay Aloiai and Matterson more than what they got at the Tigers, Newcastle won't be willing to do that so is a different situation.

Pearce leaving frees up $600k for them... is Brooks not on $650k @Geo ? They have the money there for him if he wants it.

They will not be paying what he is on, you know that.

When has a club ever unwillingly let a player go and PAID THEM to play at their new club? It doesn't happen. Unless tigers agree to let him go (which it sounds like they don't want that) then they won't be paying for him. They might agree to let him go and chip in something small but if the letter sheens sent out is anything to go by they want him staying.

He can't go anywhere without the Tigers agreeing to let him go?

Difference if the club is willing to let them go or not though. I cannot remember a club not wanting to let someone go but having to pay them to play elsewhere. It doesn't happen

Anyway, I think tigers will end up paying very little of his contract next year either way if he goes. They hold the cards here and if they're smart they get a good deal out of this

We need better than Hastings/ Madden though mate, can't go in with that.

Glad the downvote option has been removed for the post I'm about to make lol:

*If* Brooks left. While Doueihi and Talau are out: Roll with with Hastings half, Laurie 5/8, Nofa fullback, Gildart and AJ centres, Ken Maumalo and James Roberts on the wing. Gives Madden a bit more time in reggies, and if the whole thing is a catastrophe you can bring Madden into the halves and put Laurie back at fullback.

That would actually be better than running with Madden.

The world says no to Nofa at fullback.

 

[Tiger5150]

Brooks doesn't qualify for the long term player allowance at the Knights that he does here..

THe long term player allowance is stuff all, I think around $200K and its spread over the whole squad. Noffa would still qualify.

It's still part of the players wage..

I actually dont think it is. It makes no difference to the player, it makes a difference to the club. EG if Brooks is on $800K, he gets $800K regardless of whether the club gets the $200K allowance. Additionally I think the allowance is a once off per squad so if you have Brooks and Noffa, you still get a total of $200K, not $400K. Its a pretty weak allowance.

They do allocate it in player contracts though, I think that is more so as the players want to see it, it is used in negotiations.

So what happens to the second or third player? They miss out? Its a squad wide allowance.

From the Salary Cap thread... *"The Base Salary Cap for 2020 is $9.5m for the 30 highest remunerated players at each club plus **up to $0.2m** Veteran and Developed Player allowance and a $0.1m Motor Vehicle allowance."*

I know how it works, they share it amongst the players who qualify, it makes more of a difference to the club but is definitely allocated to players in contracts. Players ask for it.

Thats cool but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter. At the end of the day Brooks and Noffa are paid what they are paid, they dont get any extra money. The amount they get paid is a combination of what the market will pay, the value the club puts on them and how much is available in the cap. The $200K is just used over the squad.

 

[cochise]

Brooks doesn't qualify for the long term player allowance at the Knights that he does here..

THe long term player allowance is stuff all, I think around $200K and its spread over the whole squad. Noffa would still qualify.

It's still part of the players wage..

I actually dont think it is. It makes no difference to the player, it makes a difference to the club. EG if Brooks is on $800K, he gets $800K regardless of whether the club gets the $200K allowance. Additionally I think the allowance is a once off per squad so if you have Brooks and Noffa, you still get a total of $200K, not $400K. Its a pretty weak allowance.

They do allocate it in player contracts though, I think that is more so as the players want to see it, it is used in negotiations.

So what happens to the second or third player? They miss out? Its a squad wide allowance.

From the Salary Cap thread... *"The Base Salary Cap for 2020 is $9.5m for the 30 highest remunerated players at each club plus **up to $0.2m** Veteran and Developed Player allowance and a $0.1m Motor Vehicle allowance."*

I know how it works, they share it amongst the players who qualify, it makes more of a difference to the club but is definitely allocated to players in contracts. Players ask for it.

Thats cool but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter. At the end of the day Brooks and Noffa are paid what they are paid, they dont get any extra money. The amount they get paid is a combination of what the market will pay, the value the club puts on them and how much is available in the cap. The $200K is just used over the squad.

I'm not disagreeing with that, on a side note the best way to level the playing field in the NRL is to actually allow for proper development and long serving player allowances.

 

[Tiger5150]

Brooks doesn't qualify for the long term player allowance at the Knights that he does here..

THe long term player allowance is stuff all, I think around $200K and its spread over the whole squad. Noffa would still qualify.

It's still part of the players wage..

I actually dont think it is. It makes no difference to the player, it makes a difference to the club. EG if Brooks is on $800K, he gets $800K regardless of whether the club gets the $200K allowance. Additionally I think the allowance is a once off per squad so if you have Brooks and Noffa, you still get a total of $200K, not $400K. Its a pretty weak allowance.

They do allocate it in player contracts though, I think that is more so as the players want to see it, it is used in negotiations.

So what happens to the second or third player? They miss out? Its a squad wide allowance.

From the Salary Cap thread... *"The Base Salary Cap for 2020 is $9.5m for the 30 highest remunerated players at each club plus **up to $0.2m** Veteran and Developed Player allowance and a $0.1m Motor Vehicle allowance."*

I know how it works, they share it amongst the players who qualify, it makes more of a difference to the club but is definitely allocated to players in contracts. Players ask for it.

Thats cool but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter. At the end of the day Brooks and Noffa are paid what they are paid, they dont get any extra money. The amount they get paid is a combination of what the market will pay, the value the club puts on them and how much is available in the cap. The $200K is just used over the squad.

I'm not disagreeing with that, on a side note the best way to level the playing field in the NRL is to actually allow for proper development and long serving player allowances.

That I agree with....

 

[happy_tiger]

Almost all of us expect next season to be write off. Some even saying the spoon.

But people crying over the possibility of loosing Luke Brooks. What's it going to matter.

It may actually help the team build a new identity.

Can't have it both ways lads.

If we are going to make a serious attempt at Top 8 ...you need him until at least trade time ....


You think we are making a run for the top 8?

No ...but if we are last after 7-8 Rds ...a lot of nooses are going to tighten around a lot of high up WT's personnel ....

Despite everything ...Brooks is the best half we have until Douehi gets back (and up and running back from his 2nd ACL surgery )

If you get rid of Brooks now and can't replace him with someone better and we get even worse than last year Fans will burn down all 8 of our home grounds


My point is that we have nothing to lose.

Its Luke friggen Brooks not Johnathan Thurston.

Upper management have heaps to lose .....if Hastings bombs .....and they have no Brooks ...they are all dead men walking

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Brooks requests a release and you don't have to pay him a cent to leave... far too good an opportunity to pass up

Brooks being in the team or not makes very little difference to us making the 8 or not.... hasn't helped once in the last 8 years

You sure Mbye asked for a release pretty widely reported we are paying for him..

Tigers happy to send him away, gave him permission to speak to other clubs. Tigers want to keep Brooks and he wants to leave... we didn't pay for Aloiai or Matterson to play elsewhere, same situation.

The other clubs were willing to pay Aloiai and Matterson more than what they got at the Tigers, Newcastle won't be willing to do that so is a different situation.

Pearce leaving frees up $600k for them... is Brooks not on $650k @Geo ? They have the money there for him if he wants it.

They will not be paying what he is on, you know that.

When has a club ever unwillingly let a player go and PAID THEM to play at their new club? It doesn't happen. Unless tigers agree to let him go (which it sounds like they don't want that) then they won't be paying for him. They might agree to let him go and chip in something small but if the letter sheens sent out is anything to go by they want him staying.

He can't go anywhere without the Tigers agreeing to let him go?

Difference if the club is willing to let them go or not though. I cannot remember a club not wanting to let someone go but having to pay them to play elsewhere. It doesn't happen

Anyway, I think tigers will end up paying very little of his contract next year either way if he goes. They hold the cards here and if they're smart they get a good deal out of this

We need better than Hastings/ Madden though mate, can't go in with that.

Glad the downvote option has been removed for the post I'm about to make lol:

*If* Brooks left. While Doueihi and Talau are out: Roll with with Hastings half, Laurie 5/8, Nofa fullback, Gildart and AJ centres, Ken Maumalo and James Roberts on the wing. Gives Madden a bit more time in reggies, and if the whole thing is a catastrophe you can bring Madden into the halves and put Laurie back at fullback.

Downvote. That is disgusting

 

[cochise]

Brooks doesn't qualify for the long term player allowance at the Knights that he does here..

THe long term player allowance is stuff all, I think around $200K and its spread over the whole squad. Noffa would still qualify.

It's still part of the players wage..

I actually dont think it is. It makes no difference to the player, it makes a difference to the club. EG if Brooks is on $800K, he gets $800K regardless of whether the club gets the $200K allowance. Additionally I think the allowance is a once off per squad so if you have Brooks and Noffa, you still get a total of $200K, not $400K. Its a pretty weak allowance.

They do allocate it in player contracts though, I think that is more so as the players want to see it, it is used in negotiations.

So what happens to the second or third player? They miss out? Its a squad wide allowance.

From the Salary Cap thread... *"The Base Salary Cap for 2020 is $9.5m for the 30 highest remunerated players at each club plus **up to $0.2m** Veteran and Developed Player allowance and a $0.1m Motor Vehicle allowance."*

I know how it works, they share it amongst the players who qualify, it makes more of a difference to the club but is definitely allocated to players in contracts. Players ask for it.

Thats cool but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter. At the end of the day Brooks and Noffa are paid what they are paid, they dont get any extra money. The amount they get paid is a combination of what the market will pay, the value the club puts on them and how much is available in the cap. The $200K is just used over the squad.

I'm not disagreeing with that, on a side note the best way to level the playing field in the NRL is to actually allow for proper development and long serving player allowances.

That I agree with....

$200k across the squad is a joke. I wouldn't complain about a 50% salary cap allocation for developed and long serving players, but I better stop now as I am off topic and hate deleting my own posts.

I don't think we can afford to let Brooks go.

 

[The_Patriot]

Almost all of us expect next season to be write off. Some even saying the spoon.

But people crying over the possibility of loosing Luke Brooks. What's it going to matter.

It may actually help the team build a new identity.

Can't have it both ways lads.

If we are going to make a serious attempt at Top 8 ...you need him until at least trade time ....


You think we are making a run for the top 8?

No ...but if we are last after 7-8 Rds ...a lot of nooses are going to tighten around a lot of high up WT's personnel ....

Despite everything ...Brooks is the best half we have until Douehi gets back (and up and running back from his 2nd ACL surgery )

If you get rid of Brooks now and can't replace him with someone better and we get even worse than last year Fans will burn down all 8 of our home grounds


My point is that we have nothing to lose.

Its Luke friggen Brooks not Johnathan Thurston.

Upper management have heaps to lose .....if Hastings bombs .....and they have no Brooks ...they are all dead men walking

Best they just keep doing the same old things then?

 

[happy_tiger]

Since when did Wests Tigers become smart... I missed it..

You didn't ...they didn't

 

[The_Patriot]

Since when did Wests Tigers become smart... I missed it..

You didn't ...they didn't

What if Sheen's statement about brooks going nowhere was his way to make the knights pay more.

Is not Pascoe doing these dealing now.

Why can't we actually be doing it the right way?

 

[mike]

Brooks doesn't qualify for the long term player allowance at the Knights that he does here..

THe long term player allowance is stuff all, I think around $200K and its spread over the whole squad. Noffa would still qualify.

It's still part of the players wage..

I actually dont think it is. It makes no difference to the player, it makes a difference to the club. EG if Brooks is on $800K, he gets $800K regardless of whether the club gets the $200K allowance. Additionally I think the allowance is a once off per squad so if you have Brooks and Noffa, you still get a total of $200K, not $400K. Its a pretty weak allowance.

They do allocate it in player contracts though, I think that is more so as the players want to see it, it is used in negotiations.

So what happens to the second or third player? They miss out? Its a squad wide allowance.

From the Salary Cap thread... *"The Base Salary Cap for 2020 is $9.5m for the 30 highest remunerated players at each club plus **up to $0.2m** Veteran and Developed Player allowance and a $0.1m Motor Vehicle allowance."*

I know how it works, they share it amongst the players who qualify, it makes more of a difference to the club but is definitely allocated to players in contracts. Players ask for it.

Thats cool but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter. At the end of the day Brooks and Noffa are paid what they are paid, they dont get any extra money. The amount they get paid is a combination of what the market will pay, the value the club puts on them and how much is available in the cap. The $200K is just used over the squad.

I'm not disagreeing with that, on a side note the best way to level the playing field in the NRL is to actually allow for proper development and long serving player allowances.

Stop it, you’re making sense again.

 

[jrtiger]

Frustrated Tigers fed up with Luke Brooks speculation

Christian Nicolussi

Frustrated Wests Tigers officials declared on Thursday night they were fed up with speculation Luke Brooks is heading to Newcastle to replace Mitchell Pearce, with the No.7 having assured them it would not be happening.

Less than two weeks after new director of football Tim Sheens declared from England the halfback would be staying put until at least the end of 2023, talk of Brooks heading to the Hunter cranked into overdrive with four separate news reports suggesting he was all but a done deal.

Pearce is keen to join Catalans in the Super League but Newcastle won’t cut the veteran loose until they can find a suitable replacement.

Brooks is seen by many at the Knights as the man to fill the void. There is also the belief a change of scenery would freshen him up mentally; while the playmaker and coach Adam O’Brien share the same manager.

One angry Tigers official pointed out late Thursday Brooks had two years to run on his deal and questioned why he had even been linked with a rival club. They added it was unfair for Brooks to continually read false reports about his future, something Sheens also made a point of addressing a fortnight ago.

“I’m not sure how many times we have to come out and say Luke is staying,” the official said.

“If we come out and say anything publicly, it just adds to the story, and there isn’t a story.”

Sheens touches down from England on Sunday and will report for duty at Concord first thing Monday, almost a decade after he finished up with the club he won a premiership with in 2005.

Brooks is weighing up whether to speak publicly and end the Knights speculation once and for all.

The Tigers have Jackson Hastings and Tyrone Peachey coming on board, with both capable of playing halfback and five-eighth respectively. Adam Doueihi, the club’s best player, sees his future at No. 6 but will miss the first half of the year as he overcomes a second ruptured ACL.

The Tigers remain interested in Canberra rake Josh Hodgson for next year, but will not budge on how much of his contract they are prepared to pick up.

And they are one of several clubs keen on Api Koroisau, but will only become seriously interested if the Panthers are prepared to cut him loose a year early, which the premiers will not.

Meanwhile, Dylan Napa remains hopeful of landing a new deal and knows he will need to take a massive pay cut. The former Maroons prop is said to be ready to settle for as little as $250,000 a season, virtually a third of what he commanded when switching from the Sydney Roosters to Canterbury.

There was brief interest from the Broncos and Cronulla, but Napa could yet find himself in the south of France with good mate Pearce and coach Steve McNamara, who worked with the front-rower at the Roosters when he was an assistant to Trent Robinson.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/frustrated-tigers-fed-up-with-luke-brooks-speculation-20211104-p5965o.html

 

[happy_tiger]

Since when did Wests Tigers become smart... I missed it..

You didn't ...they didn't

What if Sheen's statement about brooks going nowhere was his way to make the knights pay more.

Is not Pascoe doing these dealing now.

Why can't we actually be doing it the right way?

How did it get to the current situation ...or are we going to blame Hartigan etc

 

[jrtiger]

Nicolussi is typically the bloke that goes into bat for WT when there's been a tonne of speculation about something. this would've come from high up.

 

[JC99]

Brooks requests a release and you don't have to pay him a cent to leave... far too good an opportunity to pass up

Brooks being in the team or not makes very little difference to us making the 8 or not.... hasn't helped once in the last 8 years

You sure Mbye asked for a release pretty widely reported we are paying for him..

Tigers happy to send him away, gave him permission to speak to other clubs. Tigers want to keep Brooks and he wants to leave... we didn't pay for Aloiai or Matterson to play elsewhere, same situation.

The other clubs were willing to pay Aloiai and Matterson more than what they got at the Tigers, Newcastle won't be willing to do that so is a different situation.

Pearce leaving frees up $600k for them... is Brooks not on $650k @Geo ? They have the money there for him if he wants it.

They will not be paying what he is on, you know that.

When has a club ever unwillingly let a player go and PAID THEM to play at their new club? It doesn't happen. Unless tigers agree to let him go (which it sounds like they don't want that) then they won't be paying for him. They might agree to let him go and chip in something small but if the letter sheens sent out is anything to go by they want him staying.

He can't go anywhere without the Tigers agreeing to let him go?

Difference if the club is willing to let them go or not though. I cannot remember a club not wanting to let someone go but having to pay them to play elsewhere. It doesn't happen

Anyway, I think tigers will end up paying very little of his contract next year either way if he goes. They hold the cards here and if they're smart they get a good deal out of this

Because teams don’t usually release players they want. Why are you so sure the club would be unwilling to let him go? They don’t have to release him if they don’t want to.

They released a whole statement saying they want to keep him, they love the bloke. They can definitely choose not to release him if they want but how often does that happen?

Fairly regularly at other clubs, hey we got paid to release Aloiai, same situation maybe that will happen again?

Definitely could happen, depends how bad Knights want him I guess.

 

[The_Patriot]

Since when did Wests Tigers become smart... I missed it..

You didn't ...they didn't

What if Sheen's statement about brooks going nowhere was his way to make the knights pay more.

Is not Pascoe doing these dealing now.

Why can't we actually be doing it the right way?

How did it get to the current situation ...or are we going to blame Hartigan etc

I've said this before Pascoe and co have realised they were the problem. They made moves to put other people into those football decisions

All respect to them.

Continue to focus on the past if you must. I get it it's been horrific but it is changing.

 

[Camel2281]

Madge is leading us down the toilet. Get rid of your half and replace him with no one.

Sheenius

He's already been replaced by Hastings

 

[happy_tiger]

Since when did Wests Tigers become smart... I missed it..

You didn't ...they didn't

What if Sheen's statement about brooks going nowhere was his way to make the knights pay more.

Is not Pascoe doing these dealing now.

Why can't we actually be doing it the right way?

How did it get to the current situation ...or are we going to blame Hartigan etc

I've said this before Pascoe and co have realised they were the problem. They made moves to put other people into those football decisions

All respect to them.

Continue to focus on the past if you must. I get it it's been horrific but it is changing.

The best move is to keep Brooks until around the trading is getting cracking ...Newcastle gets to see how much they need a 7 ....we get to find out if Hastings is up to it ...and hopefully we get to see how Douehi is coping with returning ....we could get a lot better deal with Brooks if we do this ......