Luke Brooks - Mega Thread

pawsandclaws1 said:
Brooks was hammered for missing the ball which lead to the try. What was forgotten was the effort to get back there to try and save the try. I always looked for effort when coaching my soccer teams. Where was Hastings? Where was Doueihi? This was a big moment in the game and none of them were sighted. Their absence says it all really.
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Some of brooks one on one tackles on papalii were epic.

When papali came off we started scoring again
 
Demps said:
Hastings playing on one leg.
AD returning from injury and playing out of position.... essentially.

Brooks is a park footballer masquerading as a first grader.

Every game he plays, the more he gets found out.
The fan club dwindles more and more each round.
Points for staying loyal though Pawzy.
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How many games does it take for you to realise Hastings and Doueihi are fringies?
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
Brooks was hammered for missing the ball which lead to the try. What was forgotten was the effort to get back there to try and save the try. I always looked for effort when coaching my soccer teams. Where was Hastings? Where was Doueihi? This was a big moment in the game and none of them were sighted. Their absence says it all really.
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Was this Brook's first season in the NRL after a long break in the Super League while carrying an injury? or a few games in from what was once a career ending injury in a non preferred position?

Or was this another chapter in the big book of Brooks being useless?

I don't understand how anyone who claims to support Wests Tigers can support Luke Brooks ever seeing FG again, its completely counterintuitive
 
Champ1 said:
I am a long time Tigers fan(Balmain & WT) and have been disappointed by our lack of real results for the past decade. For the record I believe every has their right to there opinion & post it as they wish. What I find incredible is the amount of disrespect for Brooks. He is a seriously talented & very loyal player.
Some people here are under the illusion that Brooks should win all games on his own. He has never had the luxury of a consistently dominant forward pack. A team without a decent forward pack is like a car without an engine. For any one saying thats just an excuse, put your money where your mouth is & push your car to work for 8 years . Try to push & steer at the same time . Most would give up within a few metres , yet Brooks has stuck loyal for years. For those who rate Cleary as a great halfback(i dont) , he would not win games behind our forward pack. He & daddy would have bailed long ago to go to the highest bidder.
One play that all the Brooks critics highlight in the last game for example was when he kicked early in the tackle count when we were a man down & gave Parra the ball back. Not probs the play required, but Cleary & Liua make those kind of mistakes in games as well. The difference is , the Penrith forward pack has them back down on the opposition try line the next set for Cleary to try again & redeem himself. Brooks dosent have & has never had that luxury . Also , i will point out, it wasnt Brooks that missed the tackles down that rhs that let the resultant try in, but no one talks about that.
It appears to me that some of us are too eager to lap up the BS that the Hoppers & fox toolbags vomit out every week & accept it as gospel, eg the clubs in turmoil, Brooks wants out, Madge was the problem, ten players want out, Sheens sacked Madge so he could have the top job etc etc. .Dont forget the majority of the negative posters here could be supporters of other clubs masquerading as Tigers fans to put it up us.
Our latest forward debutants show we have great potential future in this club with better times coming. There has always been this potential here that threatens other clubs so they talk us down, and for the most part it has worked. Its the supporters of this club that make it what it is. If we continue to believe this negative BS that for the most part is just lies we wont be going up anytime soon.
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Brooks has had the tools at his disposal in the past. A common misconception is that he hasn't had the talent around him in the spine to win games. This is a fallacy, he made up a spine that consisted of NSW fullback and two time premiership winner James Tedesco, a routine finals attendee and NSW origin half Mitch Moses and premiership winner and NSW origin hooker in Robbie Farah. He has also played behind forward packs that contained James Gavet, Martin Taupau, Keith Galloway and Aaron Woods, internationals and origin players among those three of those four as well. I believe that Keith Galloway holds the weird stat of being our most successful player in that he won more games at the Tigers than any other player.

He is also paid very good money to be the marquee man. It's not his fault the club has offered him good money, I'll concede that, but he obviously needs to acknowledge that for the remuneration he receives there is an expectation that a certain level of output and responsibility to lead the team. He has not lived up to that expectation. He has on occasion come up with the play, not nearly enough to justify the money or longevity of his career at the club. That's what it boils down to. He does not have what it takes to be the player that will take us to the next level. Halves are meant to make the team better around them. Penrith are markedly not as good when Cleary is not available for them. Easts have not recovered post Cronk. Brooks does not lift, or direct, the players around him.

To persist with him is a perfect example of the sunk cost fallacy. We turfed Madge after 3.5 years of poor performances which is fair enough, when is Brooks held to account for 9 years of poor performances?
 
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Champ1 said:
I am a long time Tigers fan(Balmain & WT) and have been disappointed by our lack of real results for the past decade. For the record I believe every has their right to there opinion & post it as they wish. What I find incredible is the amount of disrespect for Brooks. He is a seriously talented & very loyal player.
Some people here are under the illusion that Brooks should win all games on his own. He has never had the luxury of a consistently dominant forward pack. A team without a decent forward pack is like a car without an engine. For any one saying thats just an excuse, put your money where your mouth is & push your car to work for 8 years . Try to push & steer at the same time . Most would give up within a few metres , yet Brooks has stuck loyal for years. For those who rate Cleary as a great halfback(i dont) , he would not win games behind our forward pack. He & daddy would have bailed long ago to go to the highest bidder.
One play that all the Brooks critics highlight in the last game for example was when he kicked early in the tackle count when we were a man down & gave Parra the ball back. Not probs the play required, but Cleary & Liua make those kind of mistakes in games as well. The difference is , the Penrith forward pack has them back down on the opposition try line the next set for Cleary to try again & redeem himself. Brooks dosent have & has never had that luxury . Also , i will point out, it wasnt Brooks that missed the tackles down that rhs that let the resultant try in, but no one talks about that.
It appears to me that some of us are too eager to lap up the BS that the Hoppers & fox toolbags vomit out every week & accept it as gospel, eg the clubs in turmoil, Brooks wants out, Madge was the problem, ten players want out, Sheens sacked Madge so he could have the top job etc etc. .Dont forget the majority of the negative posters here could be supporters of other clubs masquerading as Tigers fans to put it up us.
Our latest forward debutants show we have great potential future in this club with better times coming. There has always been this potential here that threatens other clubs so they talk us down, and for the most part it has worked. Its the supporters of this club that make it what it is. If we continue to believe this negative BS that for the most part is just lies we wont be going up anytime soon.
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Good post champ!
I support that view. I will add, when we drill into the stats for 2018, what we find is a very competent forward pack, a pack that didn’t take a backward step. They were Cleary’s mates who were looking for a super boost, but they repaid their debt to Cleary. They were so good that we beat the top teams and Brooks got his Dally M.
WT for what ever reason can’t attract or develop forwards of this caliber. That is until now, with Api and Papali’i, we need to strengthen up the middle though.
 
Demps said:
Hastings playing on one leg.
AD returning from injury and playing out of position.... essentially.

Brooks is a park footballer masquerading as a first grader.

Every game he plays, the more he gets found out.
The fan club dwindles more and more each round.
Points for staying loyal though Pawzy.
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Keep rolling out the excuses for em Demps
- you'll certainly need the practice..
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
Brooks has had the tools at his disposal in the past. A common misconception is that he hasn't had the talent around him in the spine to win games. This is a fallacy, he made up a spine that consisted of NSW fullback and two time premiership winner James Tedesco, a routine finals attendee and NSW origin half Mitch Moses and premiership winner and NSW origin hooker in Robbie Farah. He has also played behind forward packs that contained James Gavet, Martin Taupau, Keith Galloway and Aaron Woods, internationals and origin players among those three of those four as well.

He is also paid very good money to be the marquee man. It's not his fault the club has offered him good money, I'll concede that, but he obviously needs to acknowledge that for the remuneration he receives there is an expectation that a certain level of output and responsibility to lead the team. He has not lived up to that expectation. He has on occasion come up with the play, not nearly enough to justify the money or longevity of his career at the club. That's what it boils down to. He does not have what it takes to be the player that will take us to the next level. Halves are meant to make the team better around them. Penrith are markedly not as good when Cleary is not available for them. Easts have not recovered post Cronk. Brooks does not lift, or direct, the players around him.

To persist with him is a perfect example of the sunk cost fallacy. We turfed Madge after 3.5 years of poor performances which is fair enough, when is Brooks held to account for 9 years of poor performances?
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That was a pretty good spine. It took a while, but we eventually managed to get rid of them.
 
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