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And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

I am a newcomer to this forum but no less a passionate fan which I can tell you also are. I do not have a ‘mob mentality’. Just commenting on what I see. You mentioned it yourself ‘apart from round 3-10’ he was solid. I cannot agree that someone who should be a leader of the tigers; apparently on one of the highest wages in the team, should be forgiven and propped up for playing poorly in; at the very least 30% of the games last year. I am not arguing that he does not bust his ass each game. We should not have to debate that. It should be a given. We can complain about the players around him and the poor defence; all of which maybe true but I will go back to what i said to begin with. The board showed confidence in him buy inking a long term deal and paying enough money to be a leader. All on expectations. He has not lived up to them. How you objectively put him in the second tier, I do not know. Cleary, Moses, Reynolds, Hughes, Keary, DCE (when he is on) all ahead. We can debate the merits of the players that surround these guys is what makes them good until the cows come home or how kicking to corners is somehow worse than kicking dead or out on the full but none of those mentioned (apart from DCE) go missing for 30% of the season. Brooks maybe a solid role player, a leader he is not.
 
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337294) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336709) said:
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336679) said:
@littlebittipsy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336158) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336105) said:
And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

I am a newcomer to this forum but no less a passionate fan which I can tell you also are. I do not have a ‘mob mentality’. Just commenting on what I see. You mentioned it yourself ‘apart from round 3-10’ he was solid. I cannot agree that someone who should be a leader of the tigers; apparently on one of the highest wages in the team, should be forgiven and propped up for playing poorly in; at the very least 30% of the games last year. I am not arguing that he does not bust his ass each game. We should not have to debate that. It should be a given. We can complain about the players around him and the poor defence; all of which maybe true but I will go back to what i said to begin with. The board showed confidence in him buy inking a long term deal and paying enough money to be a leader. All on expectations. He has not lived up to them. How you objectively put him in the second tier, I do not know. Cleary, Moses, Reynolds, Hughes, Keary, DCE (when he is on) all ahead. We can debate the merits of the players that surround these guys is what makes them good until the cows come home or how kicking to corners is somehow worse than kicking dead or out on the full but none of those mentioned (apart from DCE) go missing for 30% of the season. Brooks maybe a solid role player, a leader he is not.

Welcome to the forum bud.
 
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337294) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336709) said:
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336679) said:
@littlebittipsy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336158) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336105) said:
And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

I am a newcomer to this forum but no less a passionate fan which I can tell you also are. I do not have a ‘mob mentality’. Just commenting on what I see. You mentioned it yourself ‘apart from round 3-10’ he was solid. I cannot agree that someone who should be a leader of the tigers; apparently on one of the highest wages in the team, should be forgiven and propped up for playing poorly in; at the very least 30% of the games last year. I am not arguing that he does not bust his ass each game. We should not have to debate that. It should be a given. We can complain about the players around him and the poor defence; all of which maybe true but I will go back to what i said to begin with. The board showed confidence in him buy inking a long term deal and paying enough money to be a leader. All on expectations. He has not lived up to them. How you objectively put him in the second tier, I do not know. Cleary, Moses, Reynolds, Hughes, Keary, DCE (when he is on) all ahead. We can debate the merits of the players that surround these guys is what makes them good until the cows come home or how kicking to corners is somehow worse than kicking dead or out on the full but none of those mentioned (apart from DCE) go missing for 30% of the season. Brooks maybe a solid role player, a leader he is not.

I didn’t say he was a leader . It’s sport , every sportsmen goes in and out of form . The trick is to lengthen the good and shorten the bad . So when he played like crap last year , which isn’t relevant at all , but let’s roll with it , he was out of form and he ducked . And the biggest hammering was “ he’s had 1 try assists all year “ . Now he leads the comp , and the pitch forks are still out . I don’t think people are being objective , simply based on that being the main metric to judge him last year . And this year not being relevant .

I also had the same opinion about Liddle , and I said he was potentially one of the elite dummy halves in the comp . I was flat out wrong , and I feel bad for him , but I was wrong . So it’s not like my opinion today , can’t be swayed in the future , with facts . But there hasn’t been a single 1 thrown my way , or @Speed2burn way , or @sleeve or @geo , or @Pawsandclaws or whoever , which reinforces my belief , that it is mob mentality .
If you say “he leads the league in try assists” then the rebuttals is “he’s garbage “ or “ no game management” .
When you describe what game management is , and how in fact that’s literally what he is doing ,
It’s “his kicks arnt high enough “ . When you explain that you can’t score off every play , and that’s game Management , there’s something else , that’s strawman to the max.

Anyways , you believe what you want . When he wins the comp with the sharks or , roosters or Titans or whoever , we will all be spewing that we didn’t put the cattle around him .

I could name you 10 sports stars who everyone said was a failure , that won titles late in thier career and now we talk about them as half of farmers . Dirk Nowitzki off the top of my head .
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336709) said:
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336679) said:
@littlebittipsy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336158) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336105) said:
And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

Great post. Every time the other team make a break usually there is usually a little no. 7 in the vicinity trying to cover someone else's mistake. I don't know how people aren't seeing this. He's everywhere on the field barking orders left and right in attack too. Based on what I've seen in the last 3 games, the halfback we wanted is right in front of our eyes, people just don't want to accept it.
 
Brooks is not the problem but he’s not the solution either. Get some outside backs. Very simple. Just first graders that can tackle and perhaps run fast.
 
Started the year a Brooksy fan boy but now on the fence

Always tries hard with and without ball
Kicks have been average
Does come up with some big plays
Our organisation in good ball is horrendous
Great broken field player
Doesn’t seem to stick to game plans
Better go forward than previous years and still not winning
Doesn’t seem a good communicator to me
Dishes it to Twal too often when attacking the line, needs to find our strike weapons
Part of a flimsy edge even though he puts his body on the line
One of the quicker halves around

All in all, unless someone better comes along, we need to suck it up and get behind the bloke.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337343) said:
Started the year a Brooksy fan boy but now on the fence

Always tries hard with and without ball
Kicks have been average
Does come up with some big plays
Our organisation in good ball is horrendous
Great broken field player
Doesn’t seem to stick to game plans
Better go forward than previous years and still not winning
Doesn’t seem a good communicator to me
Dishes it to Twal too often when attacking the line, needs to find our strike weapons
Part of a flimsy edge even though he puts his body on the line
One of the quicker halves around

All in all, unless someone better comes along, we need to suck it up and get behind the bloke.


That sums it up perfectly and to be honest neither Hastings or Reynolds would be an improvement imo.
 
@jadtiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337352) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337343) said:
Started the year a Brooksy fan boy but now on the fence

Always tries hard with and without ball
Kicks have been average
Does come up with some big plays
Our organisation in good ball is horrendous
Great broken field player
Doesn’t seem to stick to game plans
Better go forward than previous years and still not winning
Doesn’t seem a good communicator to me
Dishes it to Twal too often when attacking the line, needs to find our strike weapons
Part of a flimsy edge even though he puts his body on the line
One of the quicker halves around

All in all, unless someone better comes along, we need to suck it up and get behind the bloke.


That sums it up perfectly and to be honest neither Hastings or Reynolds would be an improvement imo.

You probably gain a better game manager in Reynolds and a goal kicker but you lose some X factor. I’d stay away from Jh.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337343) said:
Started the year a Brooksy fan boy but now on the fence

Always tries hard with and without ball
Kicks have been average
Does come up with some big plays
Our organisation in good ball is horrendous
Great broken field player
Doesn’t seem to stick to game plans
Better go forward than previous years and still not winning
Doesn’t seem a good communicator to me
Dishes it to Twal too often when attacking the line, needs to find our strike weapons
Part of a flimsy edge even though he puts his body on the line
One of the quicker halves around

All in all, unless someone better comes along, we need to suck it up and get behind the bloke.

All his positive attributes are those of a 5/8...
 
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I feel sorry for Brooks. I don’t think there is anything he can do within his ability to survive the negative media and discontent supporters/sponsors to survive remaining at the club. Madge has put his reputation and career on the line in showing his support for Brooks to lead this team into the finals this year, and regardless of how “solid” he has played, looks like he will be the first scapegoat. It’s looking like the club will throw the baby out with the bath water.

It is not scapegoating: there are many problems with the team. But halfback is arguably the most crucial position and Brooks has been so poor for so long. He is an obvious early choice to be moved on. If Kepoa was dropped is that scapegoating too?
And like you I also feel sorry for Brooks. It isn’t his fault that Madge keeps putting him in and exposing him to criticism every week.

I think Luke lacks confidence- it struck me when he walked onto Leichhardt Oval on Sunday carrying the 7 jersey- he looked deflated-he didn't look like someone who was going to go in there and win a match. All this conjecture certainly wouldn't be inspiring him with confidence at the moment, I feel sorry for the guy:disappointed:


I noticed that too. Thought at the time he may have been emotionally somewhere else? Arthur Summons handed him his 7 jersey on debut and he was handing his 7 jersey to the club chair in tribute to Tommy.

Glad someone else noticed that - also when I said I feel sorry for Luke- it's more the situation that he finds himself in, I'm sure he can't be happy about this whole scenario and it sure wouldn't be doing much for his confidence- perhaps he does need to move on, but who would replace him /or who of any good players from other clubs would want to come to the WT's- unfortunately we are not an elite club that most excellent players would want to come to
I suppose we will all continue to speculate:disappointed:


I’m hoping this 5 part documentary will lift the lid on some of our speculation and give us more opportunity to be more optimistic about the club’s future direction. I still don’t understand why the club isn’t more willing to share their goals and aspirations with the fans? Why they don’t take us on he journey? Perhaps we will soon know?

Hey twentyforty, what is this 5 part documentary..........yes there is nothing worse than us fans speculating, put us out of our misery please:blush:


Tigeress Im pleased you asked that question. I didn’t realise it had been released.

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/topic/documentary/

Looks promising twentyforty. Thanks for that:+1:


Apologies, they were last years documentaries which go for about 25min. These latest ones are being put together now and available in a few months. Each part running for about 1 hour. There’s a thread on it here somewhere.

Yes twentyforty I realised they were from 2018, but thought there must be more coming, whether they will reveal anything who knows. Thanks:+1:
 
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337294) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336709) said:
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336679) said:
@littlebittipsy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336158) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336105) said:
And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

I am a newcomer to this forum but no less a passionate fan which I can tell you also are. I do not have a ‘mob mentality’. Just commenting on what I see. You mentioned it yourself ‘apart from round 3-10’ he was solid. I cannot agree that someone who should be a leader of the tigers; apparently on one of the highest wages in the team, should be forgiven and propped up for playing poorly in; at the very least 30% of the games last year. I am not arguing that he does not bust his ass each game. We should not have to debate that. It should be a given. We can complain about the players around him and the poor defence; all of which maybe true but I will go back to what i said to begin with. The board showed confidence in him buy inking a long term deal and paying enough money to be a leader. All on expectations. He has not lived up to them. How you objectively put him in the second tier, I do not know. Cleary, Moses, Reynolds, Hughes, Keary, DCE (when he is on) all ahead. We can debate the merits of the players that surround these guys is what makes them good until the cows come home or how kicking to corners is somehow worse than kicking dead or out on the full but none of those mentioned (apart from DCE) go missing for 30% of the season. Brooks maybe a solid role player, a leader he is not.

The blokes kicked it dead less then a handful of times his whole career, kicks 2 dead and the sky is falling. We’re gonna be hearing about the 2 dead kicks and his 150 games even after he’s chalked up 300.
 
@dyloh said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337381) said:
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1337294) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336709) said:
@oneblackonegold said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336679) said:
@littlebittipsy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336158) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1336105) said:
And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

I am a newcomer to this forum but no less a passionate fan which I can tell you also are. I do not have a ‘mob mentality’. Just commenting on what I see. You mentioned it yourself ‘apart from round 3-10’ he was solid. I cannot agree that someone who should be a leader of the tigers; apparently on one of the highest wages in the team, should be forgiven and propped up for playing poorly in; at the very least 30% of the games last year. I am not arguing that he does not bust his ass each game. We should not have to debate that. It should be a given. We can complain about the players around him and the poor defence; all of which maybe true but I will go back to what i said to begin with. The board showed confidence in him buy inking a long term deal and paying enough money to be a leader. All on expectations. He has not lived up to them. How you objectively put him in the second tier, I do not know. Cleary, Moses, Reynolds, Hughes, Keary, DCE (when he is on) all ahead. We can debate the merits of the players that surround these guys is what makes them good until the cows come home or how kicking to corners is somehow worse than kicking dead or out on the full but none of those mentioned (apart from DCE) go missing for 30% of the season. Brooks maybe a solid role player, a leader he is not.

The blokes kicked it dead less then a handful of times his whole career, kicks 2 dead and the sky is falling. We’re gonna be hearing about the 2 dead kicks and his 150 games even after he’s chalked up 300.

Cleary kicked a general field kick out on the full against the Raiders. Brooks' kicking, especially creating try scoring opportunities is first rate.
 
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And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

I am a newcomer to this forum but no less a passionate fan which I can tell you also are. I do not have a ‘mob mentality’. Just commenting on what I see. You mentioned it yourself ‘apart from round 3-10’ he was solid. I cannot agree that someone who should be a leader of the tigers; apparently on one of the highest wages in the team, should be forgiven and propped up for playing poorly in; at the very least 30% of the games last year. I am not arguing that he does not bust his ass each game. We should not have to debate that. It should be a given. We can complain about the players around him and the poor defence; all of which maybe true but I will go back to what i said to begin with. The board showed confidence in him buy inking a long term deal and paying enough money to be a leader. All on expectations. He has not lived up to them. How you objectively put him in the second tier, I do not know. Cleary, Moses, Reynolds, Hughes, Keary, DCE (when he is on) all ahead. We can debate the merits of the players that surround these guys is what makes them good until the cows come home or how kicking to corners is somehow worse than kicking dead or out on the full but none of those mentioned (apart from DCE) go missing for 30% of the season. Brooks maybe a solid role player, a leader he is not.

The blokes kicked it dead less then a handful of times his whole career, kicks 2 dead and the sky is falling. We’re gonna be hearing about the 2 dead kicks and his 150 games even after he’s chalked up 300.

Cleary kicked a general field kick out on the full against the Raiders. Brooks' kicking, especially creating try scoring opportunities is first rate.

He kicked it dead!? Sack him!!
 
Whinge about Roosters sombrero, Rustys farm or Melbourne’s paper bags but in the same breath expect brooks to single handedly compete with these teams while struggling with cap fines and big dollar contracts playing reserve grade or riding the bench. Makes sense.
 
U know what to do on Saturday brooks 👊✊🤜🤛👊✊🤜🤛👊✊🤜🤛✊🤛🤜👊✊🤜✊👊🤛👊🤛🤜🤜🤛🤜✊👊✊🤜🤛👊🤜🤛👊✊🤜🤜✊👊
 
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Started the year a Brooksy fan boy but now on the fence

Always tries hard with and without ball
Kicks have been average
Does come up with some big plays
Our organisation in good ball is horrendous
Great broken field player
Doesn’t seem to stick to game plans
Better go forward than previous years and still not winning
Doesn’t seem a good communicator to me
Dishes it to Twal too often when attacking the line, needs to find our strike weapons
Part of a flimsy edge even though he puts his body on the line
One of the quicker halves around

All in all, unless someone better comes along, we need to suck it up and get behind the bloke.

All his positive attributes are those of a 5/8...


NOt a bad summation. In this discussion for some reason it dawned on me that Brooks is actually very similar to the way Terry Lamb played and like Lamb, Brooks is always first on the seen for a break (although he is also the most likely int he team to make a break).

If Brooks was expected to be playing a Lamb like 5/8 role we would be demanding he get extended. FWIW, IMO he is too small for 5/8.
 
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And right on time the club makes a significant statement on Luke Brooks

Where’s the statement?


The statement was made when they gave him a long term contract that showed belief in him. He has not lived up to it. It is that simple. Fans in previous statements have said ‘give him time’ or ‘he’s a role player’. He may be a role player. At 26 and 8 years with one club he should be in a position to be leading us. Especially considering the $$$ he is reputedly on. Faith and good money was shown. Unfortunately he hasn’t lived up to expectations. If Brooks is trying every game, his week in week out ability is not up to running a side. See the last kickoff from cowboys for evidence.

Have a look at the stats on NRL.com and tell me again he’s not up to it , or apart from round 3-10 last year , he hasn’t been good.There’s a reason people in the know are backing him , because he’s clearly on that second tier of halves in the comp . The first tier being really Cleary , and used to be DCE. Then there’s 3-5 way traffic jam , that is while solely dependant on putting the right team around them .
You reckon Moses wouldn’t just have quit in half these games ? Or that George Williams’ style , wouldn’t have lead to even less points , as he is very dependant on the outside backs he has . Or even Mitchell Pearce . Have you watched the knights go around ? Watch his kicking game , it’s chip to the corner every time .
Many of us defend him , because you guys are just mob mentality bullies IMO . You’re looking for a scapegoat , and you heard your mate say it on here , or down the pub , and it’s “yea you’re right” , when the real issue is , as it’s always been , there’s no steel in our defence , and for some reason guys come here for a holiday . The only way we can fix that , is blood the kids , around guys who are putting in the hard yards . And actually watch Luke , instead of jumping up and down about the things you think he should do , and at the very least you will see a guy who busts his gut , every single week .
People talk about honouring tommy ! There’s a 7 in the team who does it week in week out .

I am a newcomer to this forum but no less a passionate fan which I can tell you also are. I do not have a ‘mob mentality’. Just commenting on what I see. You mentioned it yourself ‘apart from round 3-10’ he was solid. I cannot agree that someone who should be a leader of the tigers; apparently on one of the highest wages in the team, should be forgiven and propped up for playing poorly in; at the very least 30% of the games last year. I am not arguing that he does not bust his ass each game. We should not have to debate that. It should be a given. We can complain about the players around him and the poor defence; all of which maybe true but I will go back to what i said to begin with. The board showed confidence in him buy inking a long term deal and paying enough money to be a leader. All on expectations. He has not lived up to them. How you objectively put him in the second tier, I do not know. Cleary, Moses, Reynolds, Hughes, Keary, DCE (when he is on) all ahead. We can debate the merits of the players that surround these guys is what makes them good until the cows come home or how kicking to corners is somehow worse than kicking dead or out on the full but none of those mentioned (apart from DCE) go missing for 30% of the season. Brooks maybe a solid role player, a leader he is not.

The blokes kicked it dead less then a handful of times his whole career, kicks 2 dead and the sky is falling. We’re gonna be hearing about the 2 dead kicks and his 150 games even after he’s chalked up 300.


Good points and I agree. Im less worried about the two he kicked dead and more worried about the fact that he seems to have put the ingoal grubber away since. I wonder if its confidence or coaches orders? Either is a concern.
 
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