Luke Brooks

[Snake]

Yesterday Flanagan was hooked mid game looks like reserve grade for him after 8 games ..Brooks just can not cut it after 150 games and is the first selected every week ... Why is this ?

 

[tigeress]

Anyone who wants Walters in over brooks has rocks in their head. Team leaks points again so what do we suggest? let’s take out the halfback who was one of the best in defence...


Only changes would be cini, mybe and maybe Simpkin for liddle. I also would prefer a more impact bench, but I doubt Madge will drop seyfarth. We seem to score points well even though at times we look clunky. Our issue is DEFENCE and ATTITUDE!!

They issues are in caps for the muppets blaming the halfback for the team leaking points weekly.

I know that’s what they’ll be , but Luci needs a stint on the bench . His defence is shocking at the moment . Honestly . He’s good for a huge clock off at crucial times in the game . He’s a great footy player , but he needs to work on his mental application for 80 mins . It’s guys like him , who I think Madge is talking about . Enigmatic types .

I wonder if all the players are starting to "clock off" They must be sick of going to training each week and coming up with losses almost each weekend, so they would simply have no confidence now, they probably need a couple of days off with a good psychologist or a change in strategy on the training field because it's obvious to all of us, that something is wrong and what they are trying to do is NOT WORKING😢

 

[jirskyr]

Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

In fairness that was a totally arsey pickup from Fogarty, 1/100 outcome. It's one thing to put in a clearly bad kick for bad outcome, it's another thing entirely to put in a possibly good low kick and have it snatched out of air like a slips fieldsman.

 

[hobbo1]

Yesterday Flanagan was hooked mid game looks like reserve grade for him after 8 games ..Brooks just can not cut it after 150 games and is the first selected every week ... Why is this ?

Because he ices it at training against west’s Tigers players 😂

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

I’m telling you, people are in for a rude shock if they expect him to save us from Brooks

 

[jirskyr]

Yesterday Flanagan was hooked mid game looks like reserve grade for him after 8 games ..Brooks just can not cut it after 150 games and is the first selected every week ... Why is this ?

OK but a couple of things.

(1) Bulldogs already dead last, what do they have to lose? I understand Tigers are only 1 win better, but in a battle to keep away from the bottom of the table, it's the last-place side that will possibly take the biggest risks.

(2) Flanagan isn't as good a footballer as Brooks, and that's saying something. Brooks has at least shown high-level performance at Tigers for periods in his career - you can argue either way whether that means if Brooks can get to his best, he's decent quality, or that Brooks is proven to be too inconsistent. But Flanagan has never reached that level, not even playing for Roosters.

(3) Flanagan is signed with Bulldogs until end 2023. It may be a smart play to drop him now, and he may respond, or Barrett may have just put a bullet in an expensive contract that Bulldogs will have to carry for 2.5 more seasons.

(4) Brooks was benched for 3 rounds in 2020, did it make him a better footballer? Did the team improve? He was replaced by Billy Walters.

(5) Who are Bulldogs going to play this week instead of Flanagan, if he is dropped? Brandon Wakeham? Lachlan Lewis is injured I think. JMK? It's all well and good to drop someone to set an example, but Bulldogs are seriously light on options, and trying to promote those options into a very ordinary side does not bode well.

So I'm not saying there aren't parallels and Luke Brooks does not deserve to be dropped, but it's really a desperation play rather than a "smart" move.

 

[jirskyr]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

I’m telling you, people are in for a rude shock if they expect him to save us from Brooks

Not even Tigers are expecting him to save us from Brooks? Mobile lock has always been the comment? I'm pretty sure Tigers are looking to create a Cam Murray / Cheese type role of the mobile, tough, ball-playing lock.

 

[jirskyr]

I do hope Brooks gets dropped, so at least we can experiment with the sole backup option (Madden) and put that argument to bed once and for all.

Then for 2022 or 2023, take our Packer and Mbye money and purchase the best halfback money can buy, and get that argument off the table too. I couldn't even tell you if any decent halfbacks are available for the next few seasons, because they are rare as hens' teeth and Cowboys have basically signed the two halfbacks I was aware of, one of whom I think is a very average footballer.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

I’m telling you, people are in for a rude shock if they expect him to save us from Brooks

Not even Tigers are expecting him to save us from Brooks? Mobile lock has always been the comment? I'm pretty sure Tigers are looking to create a Cam Murray / Cheese type role of the mobile, tough, ball-playing lock.

I’m talking about Hastings sudden fan club on the forum

 

[The_Patriot]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

I’m telling you, people are in for a rude shock if they expect him to save us from Brooks

Not even Tigers are expecting him to save us from Brooks? Mobile lock has always been the comment? I'm pretty sure Tigers are looking to create a Cam Murray / Cheese type role of the mobile, tough, ball-playing lock.

I’m talking about Hastings sudden fan club on the forum

How dare people be excited about a new signing,

Like how dare they.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

I’m telling you, people are in for a rude shock if they expect him to save us from Brooks

Not even Tigers are expecting him to save us from Brooks? Mobile lock has always been the comment? I'm pretty sure Tigers are looking to create a Cam Murray / Cheese type role of the mobile, tough, ball-playing lock.

I’m talking about Hastings sudden fan club on the forum


How dare people be excited about a new signing,

Like how dare they.

What’s to be excited about?

 

[jirskyr]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

I’m telling you, people are in for a rude shock if they expect him to save us from Brooks

Not even Tigers are expecting him to save us from Brooks? Mobile lock has always been the comment? I'm pretty sure Tigers are looking to create a Cam Murray / Cheese type role of the mobile, tough, ball-playing lock.

I’m talking about Hastings sudden fan club on the forum

I know what you mean, and those fans should pay attention the noise coming out of Tigers, that it's not about replacing the halfback.

 

[Tiger5150]

He's got zero confidence and is a liability out there.

Madden is probably not the answer right now, but he's got potential to one day be it. No point watching Brooks make the same mistakes over and over again.

I hope he picks madden so when we concede over 30 and lose and you all have no scapegoat

And if Madden slays it ?
Will you concede ?

I hope Madden slays it. But I’m not as confident in his abilities as many others are.


Madden would undoubtedly try but he wont fix our main problems. The 2 problems are mainly our poor attitude in defence and not adjusting quickly enough when something goes wrong.That is all a mental problem.We saw it last night because as soon as Cini dropped the high ball our composure was under 7s standard and they basically watched the opposition score 18 points quickly.We are not good enough to give starts like that.
We have mentally weak players and it shows each and every week.

Depends if madden is more of a leader on the fields to yell and bark orders for this team

If I was Jock Madden, I would do two things:

1. At my next game, I would spend the whole game SCREAMING at people. Doesnt matter what he is saying, just as long as a vein pops up in his forehead and spit is flying from his mouth.

2. Book myself onto a podcast.

I think if Jock can introduce these two things into his game, he will be a lock in first grade for a long time.

 

[Needaname]

Man this thread is always a laugh when people try to defend Brooks by blaming the rest of the team. That and the ones that think he'd go well at Melbourne or the Roosters.

He is the worst player currently in first grade. He is the worst player to ever play 150 games. Reconsider your understanding of this sport if you think he is any way redeemable.

He offers nothing. He has no composure. Terrible kicking game. Ineffective running game. The game is just too quick for him and he's a physically average player. Rating him because he's gone from a speed hump to an ok defender as a half is like saying you like ferraris because they smell nice inside. Halves get picked for everything but their defence.

People also need to call a spade a spade and recognise that magical 2018 dally M halfback of the year was the best year of his career and a complete fluke. A year where he was still a below average halfback, but was on a team with no star players that won a considerable number of scrappy games 12-8 or so and he scored a bunch of tries from lost balls or offloads to get points clueless judges.

Everyone defended him saying he needed Benji and Farah to go so he could make the team his own. He's had 8 years to make the team his own and has done nothing, only hurt the team. Now the new line is that Doueihi needs to take charge so Brooks can play his natural game.

Brooks natural game is being a number 14 in NSW cup.

If you're a player coming to the Tigers and you know Brooks is going to be the halfback for the next few years, you know you're not going there to be a contender or win titles. You're there to collect a paycheck because a team with Brooks in first grade is never going to make the finals and if they do, it'll be 8th and they'll get slapped out in week one.

The club's failure to recognise just negatively he impacts our team is truly mind boggling. Madge's failure to drop him is due reason for sacking in itself.

Be sure to come back and tell us whose fault it was when we get belted with madden playing 7

That's not my point though. We're not a good team. We're still going to get belted on occasion by elite teams, regardless of who's in the halves. But look at Doueihi's performances compared to Brooks'. Doueihi is setting up tries, scoring them and looking likely even in a team that's performing poorly. Brooks doesn't look good. You can still be a problem even if you aren't the only problem so the fact that our team isn't good doesn't change the fact that Brooks being replaced should be one of our top, if not the top priority.

Three things that should be top priority after today
1. Left winger could not catch
2. Right edge could not tackle
3. Entire side lacked urgency

Brooks is just a scapegoat

I don’t think anyone is saying Brooks was the only reason we lost but he was poor and there needs to be accountability for poor performances. There seems to be for other player, Liddell, Joey, Musgrove and Mikaele all dropped to reserve grade at different points this year.

His attempted grubber which hit the first defender for the nth time this season and led to a length of the field try to the Titans was just a horrible piece of play.

and a momentum turner.

In fairness that was a totally arsey pickup from Fogarty, 1/100 outcome. It's one thing to put in a clearly bad kick for bad outcome, it's another thing entirely to put in a possibly good low kick and have it snatched out of air like a slips fieldsman.

In fairness, that kick was struck in such a way that it wasn’t going to travel more than a couple of meters beyond the line. It seemed like an attempt to kick in the space between the line and Brimson rather than a miss kick, That’s why Foggerty was able to scoop it up.

 

[Needaname]

Anyone who wants Walters in over brooks has rocks in their head. Team leaks points again so what do we suggest? let’s take out the halfback who was one of the best in defence...


Only changes would be cini, mybe and maybe Simpkin for liddle. I also would prefer a more impact bench, but I doubt Madge will drop seyfarth. We seem to score points well even though at times we look clunky. Our issue is DEFENCE and ATTITUDE!!

They issues are in caps for the muppets blaming the halfback for the team leaking points weekly.

I know that’s what they’ll be , but Luci needs a stint on the bench . His defence is shocking at the moment . Honestly . He’s good for a huge clock off at crucial times in the game . He’s a great footy player , but he needs to work on his mental application for 80 mins . It’s guys like him , who I think Madge is talking about . Enigmatic types .

Needs to go back to a backrower on the bench.
Take a leaf out of Ivan’s book and get Lucy playing minutes like Kikau.

 

[cktiger]

All the runaround and blaming this guy, the coach, the ball boy… but the person in the most important and influential position in our team is Luke Brooks.
Sadly, he doesn’t cut it.
The halfback in ANY team is always the one under pressure when the team is failing.
It seems we are the only club who doesn’t do something about it - no matter how long it drags on.
First thing I would do today is get on the phone to England and offer to pay whatever transfer fee they want to get Hastings here right ASAP.
It’s now just embarrassing watching Brooks flounder and drag the team down with him…. and even more embarrassing to be a supporter.

Everybody stop blaming everyone except the person I want to blame ! Hypocrisy much ?

Well... that certainly doesn't make any sense.
You're better off sticking with calling people fools or stupid ....or telling them how much better you understand the game than anybody who doesn't agree with you.

 

[TillLindemann]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

You’re just a hater ?

It was scary ...THAT is our future

Bring the petrol and matches

What were his stats ?
Apparently that’s all that matters according to some ?

Stats are he is playing in the ESL behind arguably the best forward pack and couldn't roll Hull

Stats are he's probably won 80% of matches he's played in over the last 3 years. Including with a bog average Salford pack in front of him. I wouldn't write him off over 1 loss to a strong Hull side (coached by Hodgo!)

It’s reserve grade mate ! Look at what Liddle and Simpkin are doing in KOE cup , and now look how nullified they are in NRL. I’m not confident at all Hastings isn’t just a squad player , no better than Billy Walters .

Do you really think Wigan wouldn't flog the Magpies?

Yes NRL is the superior comp right now, but Super League is nowhere near as bad as people make out. And it consistently produces players who star in the NRL.

 

[Camel2281]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

So, you'd sack the coach before or as well as Brooks? What if the new coach wants to sack Brooks too? Where would you stand with that? Just curious.

Ive turned to Madge must go despite all the reasonable arguments of bad look and his plan is working. A new coach could be given some instruction to work within the basic club policy of working with youth that has been developed by Hartigan and Maguire, so they dont stray too far in a new direction meaning another total rebuild. Maguire- results count and you just cant ignore that. In my books same with Brooks..

The Coach has to go. Brooks is a fine NRL half. I'm sure a new coach will keep Brooks for that reason.

If by "fine" you mean worst in the NRL (apart from the Bulldogs until Burton arrives) then you are correct.

Brooks is a liability

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The Roosters showed the way with Flanagan, they quick assessed he is crap a d kicked him as far as they could, Barrett picks him up and declares he is a top notch halfback, he is even worse than Brooks...it’s time we realised how average Brooks really is and do the same

Here's a thought, why don't you let the new coach decide? I'd bet I know what the answer would be!

Jackson Hastings

Hastings was horrific last night

You’re just a hater ?

It was scary ...THAT is our future

Bring the petrol and matches

What were his stats ?
Apparently that’s all that matters according to some ?

Stats are he is playing in the ESL behind arguably the best forward pack and couldn't roll Hull

Stats are he's probably won 80% of matches he's played in over the last 3 years. Including with a bog average Salford pack in front of him. I wouldn't write him off over 1 loss to a strong Hull side (coached by Hodgo!)

It’s reserve grade mate ! Look at what Liddle and Simpkin are doing in KOE cup , and now look how nullified they are in NRL. I’m not confident at all Hastings isn’t just a squad player , no better than Billy Walters .

Do you really think Wigan wouldn't flog the Magpies?

Yes NRL is the superior comp right now, but Super League is nowhere near as bad as people make out. And it consistently produces players who star in the NRL.

I hope you’re right , it’s not that I’m against the idea. I think the POMs who come out (who aren’t wingers) are usually pretty awesome . I worry about failed NRL players who went over there and killed it . But I hope I’m completely wrong .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

All the runaround and blaming this guy, the coach, the ball boy… but the person in the most important and influential position in our team is Luke Brooks.
Sadly, he doesn’t cut it.
The halfback in ANY team is always the one under pressure when the team is failing.
It seems we are the only club who doesn’t do something about it - no matter how long it drags on.
First thing I would do today is get on the phone to England and offer to pay whatever transfer fee they want to get Hastings here right ASAP.
It’s now just embarrassing watching Brooks flounder and drag the team down with him…. and even more embarrassing to be a supporter.

Everybody stop blaming everyone except the person I want to blame ! Hypocrisy much ?

Well... that certainly doesn't make any sense.
You're better off sticking with calling people fools or stupid ....or telling them how much better you understand the game than anybody who doesn't agree with you.

Why do I not get to reply to this ?