Luke Brooks

[weststigerman]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

 

[Bones]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Stats never tell the full story.
How many games did Brooks win for us, compared with how many Reynolds won for his mob?
At the end of the year, Reynolds led his side to the GF, whilst Brooks led his to a 38 blot canning by the comps worst team.

You’re right, the stats don’t tell you that Adam Reynolds had Cody Walker, Latrell and Gagai running off him and he was receiving the ball from Cook who all take pressure off. He was also behind a dominant forward pack and yet Brooks still matched all the key stats.

It matters not.
Brooks did not play finals in one of the weakest comps in memory. He couldn’t get the job done.

So It’s Luke Brooks fault that most of the team can’t tackle?

We conceded more points this year than we ever have. If our defence conceded as few points as Penrith or South’s we would have played finals. You can blame the halfback all you want but Andrew Johns could have played halfback for us and we wouldn’t have made finals.

I’m not saying Brooks is flawless but unless we address the real issue first there is not point spending big on a halfback because when you spend so much time behind your own posts it doesn’t matter who is playing halfback.

Of course not.
He did however put huge strain on our poor defensive lines by not controlling in any way where the ball would be turned over. There was no rhyme, reason or strategy behind his kicking. Kick and hope is the best way to describe it.
We had to win 3 more games to make the finals. Not only would Joey have got us there, but 7 of the top 8 halves this year would have…it was that weak of a comp.

I lost count of the number of times this year we had a team in their 20 and they finished their set attacking our line, or we actually held them inside their half and gave a dumb penalty on tackle 4. I certainly couldn’t blame Luke Brooks for some of the pathetic attempts in defence on the other side of the field, where we conceded most of our points.

I think if we could find a decent centre pairing and another back rower that would go a long way to making finals. Our edges are horrendous in defence.

The other issue is if you flick Brooks who is the replacement that is going to be better? Halves are thin on the ground and the good ones don’t tend to go to teams that aren’t premiership contenders, so we either develop one or we make our way up the ladder by strengthening our other weaknesses and hope we can attract one then.

 

[240z]

I think will give this forum a miss for a while, when constructive comments and opinions are considered insults its really not worth the effort

 

[tigerap]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

All those stats yet Adam Reynolds is a supremely better halfback than Brooks

He's got something that won't be on the stat sheet - footy IQ and game management. He leads that team around, kicks to corners, organises their attack and when they're in the red zone let his attacking players finish it off

Brooks couldn't organise his books in alphabetical order let alone a footy team

Harsh but true

 

[happy_tiger]

Yup, every time Tigers have said someone isn't going to leave they always stay ??

Except those times weren’t the first time Sheens made a statement representing the club. If he was to leave, what’s the point of Sheens? He looks totally powerless

Been some pretty high up people releasing statements regarding departing players and coaches and it's never really worked out

I don't think Brooks will leave but it won't be because of a statement, it's because the club has an infatuation with him and Brooks has a great gig here. Guaranteed a first grade spot regardless of performance and on the big dollars

Or it’s because we can’t afford to pay him to play at another club because we already are paying Mbye. And also because our halves depth is skinnier than Kate Moss next year, so keeping him for those reasons is a no brainer.

Paying him $200k to go to Knights is still better than paying him $650k to play for us and be useless. Not like we are winning a grand final in 2022

You mean $900k

Is that with or without the long serving player allowance

And the 25% add on for getting mentioned in the same sentence as an ex SOO player .....

 

[Tiger5150]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.

 

[cochise]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.

I think he would have been fine playing between Benji and Robbie when they were both at their peaks. I think he would have fitted well into that 2009-2011 side, but we are just talking fantasy now.

 

[Tiger5150]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.

I think he would have been fine playing between Benji and Robbie when they were both at their peaks. I think he would have fitted well into that 2009-2011 side, but we are just talking fantasy now.

true enough....Robert Lui looked a world beater at that time,

 

[happy_tiger]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.

I think he would have been fine playing between Benji and Robbie when they were both at their peaks. I think he would have fitted well into that 2009-2011 side, but we are just talking fantasy now.

true enough....Robert Lui looked a world beater at that time,

If only Head could have remained fit

 

[innsaneink]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.

I think he would have been fine playing between Benji and Robbie when they were both at their peaks. I think he would have fitted well into that 2009-2011 side, but we are just talking fantasy now.

true enough....Robert Lui looked a world beater at that time,

Is this what they call a segway.....?
Waiting... Waiting

 

[twentyforty]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

All those stats yet Adam Reynolds is a supremely better halfback than Brooks

He's got something that won't be on the stat sheet - footy IQ and game management. He leads that team around, kicks to corners, organises their attack and when they're in the red zone let his attacking players finish it off

Brooks couldn't organise his books in alphabetical order let alone a footy team

Harsh but true

Rabbits didn’t seem to think he was worth keeping, so maybe he’s only filling a role which could easily be done by the next half coming through?
WT don’t really have the next anything coming through the ranks which produces and highlights a clear cultural distinction between the two teams. But don’t let that get in the way of joining the me too Congo line of the anti Brooks mob, looking for a simple explanation for the team’s failure..

 

[mike]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

 

[weststigerman]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.

Benji was a different player by the time he played with Brooks, I'm talking about 2010 Benji. IMO Brooks would have been a better fit than Lui.

It's a pointless argument though because we'll never know.

 

[twentyforty]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

 

[avocadoontoast]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.

He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.

Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.

Benji was a different player by the time he played with Brooks, I'm talking about 2010 Benji. IMO Brooks would have been a better fit than Lui.

It's a pointless argument though because we'll never know.

90% of this thread is pointless as he will be here in 2022, and everyone knows it. I like how it’s being made such a big deal that he isn’t in Reynolds league, like that is some profound piece of insight. Credit to @Batboy, as I don’t wanna steal his thunder. He made the point that he isn’t Cleary. Hughes, Reynolds or DCE. Not many halfbacks in the comp are. But when you look at teams like the Dogs, Warriors, Dragons, Cows, Raiders etc, we aren’t any worse off. Outside 4 or 5 halfbacks, none in the comp are stars, they all struggle. Its been that way for a few years, and it’s going to get even worse when a 17th team is added

 

[GNR4LIFE]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

 

[avocadoontoast]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think will give this forum a miss for a while, when constructive comments and opinions are considered insults its really not worth the effort

Hang in there Lidcombe .....

 

[happy_tiger]

More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

No definitely not alone, but you can’t pay $850k for a halfback who never steps up. Granted he’s never been strong stepping up but at least in the past he was a decent attacking player on $550k. Under Madge he’s regressed badly and is getting paid more.

He doesn’t work in our system and he never will. This will be debated for the next two years as we’re too stupid to ever release him, but we’re never playing finals with Brooks at 7.

He has had a few chances over the years in big games to get us over the line and failed ...Warriors game this season for example ......too often when he needs to step up and grab the game by the balls he goes back into his shell ......I actually feel sorry for him in some senses ....some areas of his game have improved greatly and it is obvious he works hard .....but if he can't back himself in the big moments he isn't a top grade No 1 playmaker to lead a side .......

As much as it will probably set us a step backwards short term ...do yourself a favour Luke ......get out before your career is destroyed / ruined