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@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498999) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.
@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499001) said:@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498999) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.
Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.
I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.
@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499001) said:@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498999) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.
Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.
I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.
@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499003) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499001) said:@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498999) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.
Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.
I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.
Yes he is on good coin. He has been on overs his entire time with us.
I’m only saying keep his transfer options open as someone may be desperate enough to cop a very high percentage of his pay.
We wanted Mbyes money and swallowed our pride to get some of it. Brooks is in the same boat.
>>@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499006) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499001) said:@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498999) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.
Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.
I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499009) said:A divorce could help both Brooks and the Tigers. But cutting ties will be anything but clean
Eamonn Tiernan from Fox Sports
October 28th, 2021 7:29 am
The drums are beating louder for the Wests Tigers and Luke Brooks to call time on one another.
Brooks has become one of the game’s most criticised players in recent years, in part because he’s been unable to help the Tigers end a finals drought dating back to 2011.
The 26-year-old debuted for the club in 2013 and after 172 games he is the most experienced player in the NRL not to play finals.
Brooks’ future at the Tigers is back in the spotlight this week after reports Newcastle want him following the expected departure of Mitchell Pearace to the Super League.
The Bulldogs also are keen on the halfback who could help support 21-year-old recruit Matt Burton who will switch from centre back to five-eighth in 2022.
Brooks is in the upper echelon of NRL earners but his stats fall short of the competition’s other halfbacks on big bucks.
The No. 7 reportedly wants to play under a different coach to Michael Maguire and premiership winner Michael Ennis has called for him to make a fresh start at new club.
Brooks’ reported preference is the Bulldogs, however the recent addition of Immortal Andrew Johns to the Knights coaching staff could change things.
But leaving the Tigers is no straightforward matter.
Firstly, the NRL has a shortage of quality halves and clubs seldom let their playmakers go without a like-for-like replacement.
Secondly, Brooks is contracted until 2023 on a reported $850,000 a season, which very few sides will be willing to pay for a playmaker who has been unable to deliver his team success.
Thirdly, the Tigers already have plenty of money but few quality players to spend it on for 2022, freeing up cash would only exacerbate that problem.
Despite all that, a release could be in the club’s best interest as the stats show Brooks falls short of other halfbacks earning his salary or above.
Brooks signed his lucrative deal at the end of 2018 and over the past three seasons (the lifetime of his current contract) when starting at halfback, he has produced a combined 13 linebreaks, 39 linebreak assists and 52 try assists.
In that same time period, that compares to Daly Cherry-Evans (23-69-77), Nathan Cleary (26-52-59) and Adam Reynolds (15-47-36).
In 2021, Brooks (5-14-23) was also behind Cherry-Evans (8-26-31) and Cleary (9-21-25) but edged out Reynolds (2-16-14).
Brooks was named the Tigers’ 2021 player of the year despite Daine Laurie having more linebreak assists and Adam Doueihi playing four fewer games but producing nine linbreaks and 16 try assists.
The Knights don’t have a top-quality half to offer, but the Tigers could conceivably cover the loss of Brooks without a like-for-like replacement.
They’ve signed Super League Man of Steel winner Jackson Hastings who could play in the halves with utility Tyrone Peachey until Doueihi returns from injury.
If they do that the club could swap Brooks for Canterbury prop Luke Thompson, who is also on $850,000, as the Dogs are open to offloading him.
The Tigers are chasing hooker Josh Hodgson for next season but the Raiders might now keep him following the latest Tom Starling controversy.
If they cannot swap for Thompson and miss out on Hodgson, the Tigers cannot let Brooks go simply on the financials.
It would leave almost $1.5 million unspent for next season.
The only playmakers left on the market who have commanded big-money in the past are Dylan Walker, Tyrone May, Lachlan Lewis and Corey Norman.
There’s a reason they’re currently without clubs for 2022 as they all come with baggage.
@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499008) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499006) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499001) said:@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498999) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.
Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.
I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.
>>
>Yes we want him to be JT, Cronk or Cleary - But he's not, And we won't get those guys - ever!!
Not with that attitude
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499009) said:A divorce could help both Brooks and the Tigers. But cutting ties will be anything but clean
Eamonn Tiernan from Fox Sports
October 28th, 2021 7:29 am
The drums are beating louder for the Wests Tigers and Luke Brooks to call time on one another.
Brooks has become one of the game’s most criticised players in recent years, in part because he’s been unable to help the Tigers end a finals drought dating back to 2011.
The 26-year-old debuted for the club in 2013 and after 172 games he is the most experienced player in the NRL not to play finals.
Brooks’ future at the Tigers is back in the spotlight this week after reports Newcastle want him following the expected departure of Mitchell Pearace to the Super League.
The Bulldogs also are keen on the halfback who could help support 21-year-old recruit Matt Burton who will switch from centre back to five-eighth in 2022.
Brooks is in the upper echelon of NRL earners but his stats fall short of the competition’s other halfbacks on big bucks.
The No. 7 reportedly wants to play under a different coach to Michael Maguire and premiership winner Michael Ennis has called for him to make a fresh start at new club.
Brooks’ reported preference is the Bulldogs, however the recent addition of Immortal Andrew Johns to the Knights coaching staff could change things.
But leaving the Tigers is no straightforward matter.
Firstly, the NRL has a shortage of quality halves and clubs seldom let their playmakers go without a like-for-like replacement.
Secondly, Brooks is contracted until 2023 on a reported $850,000 a season, which very few sides will be willing to pay for a playmaker who has been unable to deliver his team success.
Thirdly, the Tigers already have plenty of money but few quality players to spend it on for 2022, freeing up cash would only exacerbate that problem.
Despite all that, a release could be in the club’s best interest as the stats show Brooks falls short of other halfbacks earning his salary or above.
Brooks signed his lucrative deal at the end of 2018 and over the past three seasons (the lifetime of his current contract) when starting at halfback, he has produced a combined 13 linebreaks, 39 linebreak assists and 52 try assists.
In that same time period, that compares to Daly Cherry-Evans (23-69-77), Nathan Cleary (26-52-59) and Adam Reynolds (15-47-36).
In 2021, Brooks (5-14-23) was also behind Cherry-Evans (8-26-31) and Cleary (9-21-25) but edged out Reynolds (2-16-14).
Brooks was named the Tigers’ 2021 player of the year despite Daine Laurie having more linebreak assists and Adam Doueihi playing four fewer games but producing nine linbreaks and 16 try assists.
The Knights don’t have a top-quality half to offer, but the Tigers could conceivably cover the loss of Brooks without a like-for-like replacement.
They’ve signed Super League Man of Steel winner Jackson Hastings who could play in the halves with utility Tyrone Peachey until Doueihi returns from injury.
If they do that the club could swap Brooks for Canterbury prop Luke Thompson, who is also on $850,000, as the Dogs are open to offloading him.
The Tigers are chasing hooker Josh Hodgson for next season but the Raiders might now keep him following the latest Tom Starling controversy.
If they cannot swap for Thompson and miss out on Hodgson, the Tigers cannot let Brooks go simply on the financials.
It would leave almost $1.5 million unspent for next season.
The only playmakers left on the market who have commanded big-money in the past are Dylan Walker, Tyrone May, Lachlan Lewis and Corey Norman.
There’s a reason they’re currently without clubs for 2022 as they all come with baggage.
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499021) said:It's refreshing to read the Brooks Thread back on track with journalistic speculation about his future and the usual bashing. Now, how long ago was Sheens' statement released. I really feel sorry for Brooks, his partner and his family.
@tigerwest said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499022) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499021) said:It's refreshing to read the Brooks Thread back on track with journalistic speculation about his future and the usual bashing. Now, how long ago was Sheens' statement released. I really feel sorry for Brooks, his partner and his family.
It didn’t seem you had those same feelings for Madge and his family?
@bagnf05 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498858) said:Reported and unfollowed fox league after repeated stories 20 mins apart about Brooks leaving, even after Sheens statement. Surely the club could take action if it’s all rubbish. Love him or hate him, he’s the best halfback we’ll have in 2022.
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499023) said:@tigerwest said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499022) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499021) said:It's refreshing to read the Brooks Thread back on track with journalistic speculation about his future and the usual bashing. Now, how long ago was Sheens' statement released. I really feel sorry for Brooks, his partner and his family.
It didn’t seem you had those same feelings for Madge and his family?
This is the Brooks Thread. Some of the comments about Brooks stature, appearance etc were disgraceful.
In relation to your comment, 3 years of failure not enough for you? Even the club recognised there are issues bringing Sheens in over the top of him and having to replace the two assistants he appointed.
@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499001) said:@donk said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498999) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498996) said:@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498945) said:I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…
I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.
Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.
Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.
I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499030) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499023) said:@tigerwest said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499022) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499021) said:It's refreshing to read the Brooks Thread back on track with journalistic speculation about his future and the usual bashing. Now, how long ago was Sheens' statement released. I really feel sorry for Brooks, his partner and his family.
It didn’t seem you had those same feelings for Madge and his family?
This is the Brooks Thread. Some of the comments about Brooks stature, appearance etc were disgraceful.
In relation to your comment, 3 years of failure not enough for you? Even the club recognised there are issues bringing Sheens in over the top of him and having to replace the two assistants he appointed.
What about 8 years of failure with Brooks not being enough for you. Even the club recognised it and brought in Hastings over the top of him