Luke Brooks

[momo_amp_medo]

Again it's a case of us signing good players .....

But this is a team game and that team HAS to gel

Brooks doesn't gel with Reynolds or Marshall

Douehi doesn't gel with the style of Grant

And then we have the whole Huth , Seyfarth and Clark situation

Of the three Huth is easily the best of the game they play ...he doesn't get dominated in attack like the other two do ...and is better defensively

We still have no sting on our edges ...Lucy is a step in the right direction ..but we are using him as a 80 minute player ...he loses his effectiveness

Brooks and Garner looked like they were building some good combos last season ...where the hell has that gone

Joey has shown little from what we saw in the Warriors trial ...Mbye isn't getting quality ball in attacking situations

Talau looked good last night and hopefully he gets a chance to string some games together ....Nofoaluma is getting away from what makes him a good running winger ...he loses effectiveness when he changes direction ...he is far better off using some footwork at the line and try and get quicker play the balls

Many are saying we are 2-3 players away from a good side .....I don't think so ...many of these guys don't gel

We need to go back to the start ...show faith in Madge .....give him some latitude to build a good squad around some key signings

This squad is so far away from a premiership it's not funny in my opinion

Pretty spot on this.
Our attack edge combos are just not working out so far.
Lucy or Garner off bench for impact for me.
Backline needs work but it’s spluttering along and may improve if we don’t fiddle too much.
Halves combo needs to settling it’s definitely WIP.
Second back rower position needs something new in Jackson, Older Turbo or Wade Graham style player.
For me Seyfarth is undercooked and not ready for first 17 yet.
Packer is a problem child .... he tried too hard last night and will end up with suspension .... but fit and in right frame of mind I’m still with his selection long term.
Lots of work for Madge and his team.

 

[mike]

Again it's a case of us signing good players .....

But this is a team game and that team HAS to gel

Brooks doesn't gel with Reynolds or Marshall

Douehi doesn't gel with the style of Grant

And then we have the whole Huth , Seyfarth and Clark situation

Of the three Huth is easily the best of the game they play ...he doesn't get dominated in attack like the other two do ...and is better defensively

We still have no sting on our edges ...Lucy is a step in the right direction ..but we are using him as a 80 minute player ...he loses his effectiveness

Brooks and Garner looked like they were building some good combos last season ...where the hell has that gone

Joey has shown little from what we saw in the Warriors trial ...Mbye isn't getting quality ball in attacking situations

Talau looked good last night and hopefully he gets a chance to string some games together ....Nofoaluma is getting away from what makes him a good running winger ...he loses effectiveness when he changes direction ...he is far better off using some footwork at the line and try and get quicker play the balls

Many are saying we are 2-3 players away from a good side .....I don't think so ...many of these guys don't gel

We need to go back to the start ...show faith in Madge .....give him some latitude to build a good squad around some key signings

This squad is so far away from a premiership it's not funny in my opinion

You won’t get much of a chance to build anything if you change the team every second week

This year is a write off. We’ll be lucky not to come 15th. You might as well use this year as an experiment and try different combinations and see what combinations work and which ones don’t.

The rule changes turned us into a bottom 4 side , unfortunately we are starting to that

Sorry ..but we are looking at another rebuild ....everyone still love the rules changes

Love the rule changes. I don’t ever want to go back to the rubbish the game had descended into. If people like getting all the calls technically correct then they can go and watch Union.

It will set us back 3 years ...we have a squad that mostly isn't suited to the rule changes bar the bloke going back to the Storm

Such is life. Might be only this year, I forget how much we’ll have to spend next year.

The game is so much better to watch now. No so much stop/start spending 5 minutes looking 30 different times afraid in getting a call wrong. Ref now has control of the game, yes sometimes it hurts us, but I much prefer this than the technicalities the game had developed into. Just get on with the game. I like it very much.

 

[happy_tiger]

Again it's a case of us signing good players .....

But this is a team game and that team HAS to gel

Brooks doesn't gel with Reynolds or Marshall

Douehi doesn't gel with the style of Grant

And then we have the whole Huth , Seyfarth and Clark situation

Of the three Huth is easily the best of the game they play ...he doesn't get dominated in attack like the other two do ...and is better defensively

We still have no sting on our edges ...Lucy is a step in the right direction ..but we are using him as a 80 minute player ...he loses his effectiveness

Brooks and Garner looked like they were building some good combos last season ...where the hell has that gone

Joey has shown little from what we saw in the Warriors trial ...Mbye isn't getting quality ball in attacking situations

Talau looked good last night and hopefully he gets a chance to string some games together ....Nofoaluma is getting away from what makes him a good running winger ...he loses effectiveness when he changes direction ...he is far better off using some footwork at the line and try and get quicker play the balls

Many are saying we are 2-3 players away from a good side .....I don't think so ...many of these guys don't gel

We need to go back to the start ...show faith in Madge .....give him some latitude to build a good squad around some key signings

This squad is so far away from a premiership it's not funny in my opinion

You won’t get much of a chance to build anything if you change the team every second week

This year is a write off. We’ll be lucky not to come 15th. You might as well use this year as an experiment and try different combinations and see what combinations work and which ones don’t.

The rule changes turned us into a bottom 4 side , unfortunately we are starting to that

Sorry ..but we are looking at another rebuild ....everyone still love the rules changes

Love the rule changes. I don’t ever want to go back to the rubbish the game had descended into. If people like getting all the calls technically correct then they can go and watch Union.

It will set us back 3 years ...we have a squad that mostly isn't suited to the rule changes bar the bloke going back to the Storm

Such is life. Might be only this year, I forget how much we’ll have to spend next year.

The game is so much better to watch now. No so much stop/start spending 5 minutes looking 30 different times afraid in getting a call wrong. Ref now has control of the game, yes sometimes it hurts us, but I much prefer this than the technicalities the game had developed into. Just get on with the game. I like it very much.

I reckon we need 6-9 changes ... they won't happen in one season ...especially if we finish bottom 4

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

I am also informed the Roosters were interested as he had worked up a great combination with Tedesco. That really hurt the Team.

 

[Russell]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

That is a difficult one Hap, plenty of people say Munster etc.

That is just pie in the sky stuff - he will never leave Melbourne, so you have to be realistic at a player you maybe able to secure as I don't think we have one on our books for next year.

I would not move Doueihi - even harder to find another full back. No point in strengthening one position and weakening another. There are no decent full backs coming off contracts as a replacement.

Cogger, Foran, Wakeman, Jacks and Green are the only halves coming off contract, I presume Sezer from what others have said, so there is not a lot of joy there.

Which means you would have to entice a player to break his contract if he would be let go, I don't think any major halves would do this. So that leaves the next level of halves, players like Lewis, Burton, Clifford, Drinkwater come to mind.

I would make underhand approaches to all of these and see if we can get a bite. I think the Dogs are keen to keep Wakeman, so that may make Lewis disgruntled. Burton is in a stoush with Leihi and one of Clifford / Drinkwater will miss out when Morgan comes back. So all could have a reason for leaving their current clubs.

I think Burton, Lewis and Clifford would all go well with Brooks. Unless one bites, Sezer for the interim if one doesn't and their is not a better prospect in the ESL, think we are stuffed.

However I don't see Madden, Mbye and Benji the answer for next year and suspect Walters will be the answer we are forced into.

Sorry I can't be more hopeful.

 

[happy_tiger]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

Was talking solely about his attacking game Paws ...defensively he is top notch ...his kicking game is still OK ...can be very erratic at times

And his general kicking game was probably developed more under Taylor ....that's when he started with the defensive bombs

 

[Needaname]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

It’s not Brooks from 2 years back when he was voted best half in the game that is out on the field at the moment, as mentioned his got too comfortable in his surroundings. His not under any actual pressure to keep his spot, coaches are continuing to try and make him the main man and that only increases the pressure on him and his not handling it but his not being made accountable for it either.
Starts with being 18th man this week.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

Was talking solely about his attacking game Paws ...defensively he is top notch ...his kicking game is still OK ...can be very erratic at times

And his general kicking game was probably developed more under Taylor ....that's when he started with the defensive bombs

A short kick into the in goal is an attacking play. He also. seems to have had the chip and short kick which he previously used to vary the. play coached out of him.

My view is Maguire overreacted to a very poor performance. Benji would have bounced back against the Raiders.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

It’s not Brooks from 2 years back when he was voted best half in the game that is out on the field at the moment, as mentioned his got too comfortable in his surroundings. His not under any actual pressure to keep his spot, coaches are continuing to try and make him the main man and that only increases the pressure on him and his not handling it but his not being made accountable for it either.
Starts with being 18th man this week.

I believe Brooks plays like he is hesitant, he is scared of making a mistake because Maguire will not like it.

 

[happy_tiger]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

Was talking solely about his attacking game Paws ...defensively he is top notch ...his kicking game is still OK ...can be very erratic at times

And his general kicking game was probably developed more under Taylor ....that's when he started with the defensive bombs

A short kick into the in goal is an attacking play. He also. seems to have had the chip and short kick which he previously used to vary the. play coached out of him.

My view is Maguire overreacted to a very poor performance. Benji would have bounced back against the Raiders.

Ok I was talking about his attacking game as far as his ball playing / running game

But his kicking game can be a 9/10 one week and a 3/10 next week ....I think Reynolds short kicking game is more consistent than Brooks short kicking game and more dangerous imo

 

[JC99]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

Was talking solely about his attacking game Paws ...defensively he is top notch ...his kicking game is still OK ...can be very erratic at times

And his general kicking game was probably developed more under Taylor ....that's when he started with the defensive bombs

A short kick into the in goal is an attacking play. He also. seems to have had the chip and short kick which he previously used to vary the. play coached out of him.

My view is Maguire overreacted to a very poor performance. Benji would have bounced back against the Raiders.

Raiders would’ve run over Benji all game. Wighton would’ve scored a few more if Benji was playing

 

[JC99]

Don’t think a Benji/Reynolds combo is a good idea at all. First two rounds it didn’t work, we played way too sideways and had no one to straighten us up which is what brooks is good at. Sure he didn’t stand out last night but he’s copping a lot of blame which to me seems unfair, we have missed him when he’s not playing that’s for sure.

 

[tonza]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

That is a difficult one Hap, plenty of people say Munster etc.

That is just pie in the sky stuff - he will never leave Melbourne, so you have to be realistic at a player you maybe able to secure as I don't think we have one on our books for next year.

I would not move Doueihi - even harder to find another full back. No point in strengthening one position and weakening another. There are no decent full backs coming off contracts as a replacement.

Cogger, Foran, Wakeman, Jacks and Green are the only halves coming off contract, I presume Sezer from what others have said, so there is not a lot of joy there.

Which means you would have to entice a player to break his contract if he would be let go, I don't think any major halves would do this. So that leaves the next level of halves, players like Lewis, Burton, Clifford, Drinkwater come to mind.

I would make underhand approaches to all of these and see if we can get a bite. I think the Dogs are keen to keep Wakeman, so that may make Lewis disgruntled. Burton is in a stoush with Leihi and one of Clifford / Drinkwater will miss out when Morgan comes back. So all could have a reason for leaving their current clubs.

I think Burton, Lewis and Clifford would all go well with Brooks. Unless one bites, Sezer for the interim if one doesn't and their is not a better prospect in the ESL, think we are stuffed.

However I don't see Madden, Mbye and Benji the answer for next year and suspect Walters will be the answer we are forced into.

Sorry I can't be more hopeful.

I would go for Foran. I cant see the Dogs renewing his contract with all the young stars they have. One thing I do know is when he plays for them they are a 100% better side. He would not cost anything like he is paid now and would be worth the risk. He is all class.

 

[happy_tiger]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

It’s not Brooks from 2 years back when he was voted best half in the game that is out on the field at the moment, as mentioned his got too comfortable in his surroundings. His not under any actual pressure to keep his spot, coaches are continuing to try and make him the main man and that only increases the pressure on him and his not handling it but his not being made accountable for it either.
Starts with being 18th man this week.

I believe Brooks plays like he is hesitant, he is scared of making a mistake because Maguire will not like it.

It definitely is a fine line ...you speak to any half and they say the same thing

One of Wally Lewis biggest irks with Wayne Bennett was he would try something on field ...it comes off one week and Bennett would praise him ...next week he could try the exact same thing and it didn't come off and Bennett would kick his ass

When it affected one of the most confident and skilled players the game has seen imagine how it affects Luke Brooks

Cam Smith probably gets 98/100 calls right .....

But that's why they get paid the big bucks if they are good ....

 

[bigsiro]

@happy_tiger
Agree with your points but not with Eisenhuth ever playing for us again. He is dreadful.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

Was talking solely about his attacking game Paws ...defensively he is top notch ...his kicking game is still OK ...can be very erratic at times

And his general kicking game was probably developed more under Taylor ....that's when he started with the defensive bombs

A short kick into the in goal is an attacking play. He also. seems to have had the chip and short kick which he previously used to vary the. play coached out of him.

My view is Maguire overreacted to a very poor performance. Benji would have bounced back against the Raiders.

Raiders would’ve run over Benji all game. Wighton would’ve scored a few more if Benji was playing

Benji has been in the NRL for a long time and has made many big tackles. Reynolds just doesn't have the ability to conjure up tries like Marshall, Munster and DCE.

 

[JC99]

So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

Was talking solely about his attacking game Paws ...defensively he is top notch ...his kicking game is still OK ...can be very erratic at times

And his general kicking game was probably developed more under Taylor ....that's when he started with the defensive bombs

A short kick into the in goal is an attacking play. He also. seems to have had the chip and short kick which he previously used to vary the. play coached out of him.

My view is Maguire overreacted to a very poor performance. Benji would have bounced back against the Raiders.

Raiders would’ve run over Benji all game. Wighton would’ve scored a few more if Benji was playing

Benji has been in the NRL for a long time and has made many big tackles. Reynolds just doesn't have the ability to conjure up tries like Marshall, Munster and DCE.

And in the first four rounds this season Benji let in 6 tries. He’s got more attacking flair than Reynolds but we need to focus on defence. We beat weaker teams with last nights performance and personally I’m not changing the team too much. Bring back garner and Clark for Lawrence and Packer and that’s it. Maybe Walters on the bench.

 

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So Brooks is the new Jennings now...
The 7 can be a role player. Sezer lastcyear was a role player in the Raiders team last year same as Townsend for Sharks.
Hindsiggt is a wonderful thing but looks like we let the wrong half go in Moses

Moses walked
Brooks was desperate as no other club would take him
If Jennings was a half he’d be luke Brooks

I am tired of correcting you in your hate for Brooks.

Other clubs did want him - Melbourne and the Dogs wanted him for a start.

Russ ....what 6 in the NRL is a good mix with Brooks in your opinion

Munster..easy one..

No it wouldn't work ......Brooks would get even more muddled in his mind at his role

Have you watched the Storm this year..Munster does much much much more than just run..

You don't need Brooks if you sign Munster ...you could get a far better half that would fit Munster's style

And you shoot yourself in the foot with the Munster argument .....if we need to get a player of Munsters ability ....Brooks isn't that good ...is he ??

Munster's strength is his running game ...Brooks only strength is his running game ...and he doesn't even have confidence in that

I'd hate to think what that would do to Brooks and his confidence

Brooks from what I've seen has a great short kicking game which he developed under Cleary. He has a long kicking game and also is one of the best defenders for a halfback in the competition. I am not sure what player you have been watching Happy but it is not Brooks.

It’s not Brooks from 2 years back when he was voted best half in the game that is out on the field at the moment, as mentioned his got too comfortable in his surroundings. His not under any actual pressure to keep his spot, coaches are continuing to try and make him the main man and that only increases the pressure on him and his not handling it but his not being made accountable for it either.
Starts with being 18th man this week.

I believe Brooks plays like he is hesitant, he is scared of making a mistake because Maguire will not like it.

It definitely is a fine line ...you speak to any half and they say the same thing

One of Wally Lewis biggest irks with Wayne Bennett was he would try something on field ...it comes off one week and Bennett would praise him ...next week he could try the exact same thing and it didn't come off and Bennett would kick his ass

When it affected one of the most confident and skilled players the game has seen imagine how it affects Luke Brooks

Cam Smith probably gets 98/100 calls right .....

But that's why they get paid the big bucks if they are good ....

My view is coaches coach the x factor out of many players as they are too scared to concede field position or the ball. This is more of a case in our team with JL and DN not noted consistently good defenders.

 

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Agree with your points but not with Eisenhuth ever playing for us again. He is dreadful.

Better than Seyfarth or Clark

If you watch the game again solely watch Seyfarth .....watch his defence ...he makes tackles but they aren't effective tackles that help control the ruck

Attack wise he is shocking ...he continually ends up facing our try line ...facing the sideline .....bent over backwards ....it screws up our momentum in attack and gives nothing for Brooks or Grant to play off