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@needaname said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321475) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321463) said:
@tigers_tale said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321437) said:
Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Brooks played well, I thought aswell APART from the repeat sets

He undoes everything when he plugs 3+ kicks that go well over the dead ball line. Seriously most halves in the game would be lucky to do that once every couple games

Brooks manages to do it atleast 3 times a game

That’s just not true. Most of Brooks kicks either hit a defender or fall short of the line. This is the first time I’ve seen in a while him kick dead for a 7 tackle set.
Recently I’ve felt his been not willing to risk attempting the kick as it is a fine line in getting it right. Reynolds does it almost once every game. There were about 2 or 3 in the Melbourne/Souths game. It’s only high lighted when it’s our players making the error.
Well I say Kudos to him for starting to get the confidence to attempt it.
Shame about the lack of structure of the chasing side.
As mentioned other teams fail to execute it at times but as you said, those kicks were the turning point in the game.
The question everyone needs to ask is why?

Exactly . How can a kick going dead 110m the other side of the field , change the game ? That’s garbage . For most teams it just means they have to tackle 7 times and maybe , if the attacking team is good enough , a repeat set .
The issue is that one or 2 players switch off and disengage when this happens , and the transition between attacking and being on the front foot to defending and being on the back foot , and the intensity change required . You can’t carry a BJ in the team . We are just not good enough to have a guy , who not only drifts in and out of games , but his desire , is toxic to the on field culture .
You can literally see it , and you can’t have a guy like that affecting a kid next to him in his 5 or 6th game , or the half trying to set him up , every time the ball comes deciding to “settle” for a hit up inside , because he doesn’t want to give this lazy centre the ball as it’s a waste .

Brooks is his own different issue , like the fact we are talking about his confidence after 150 games , but most , of those tries on Sunday scored against us , were started around halfway. They really shouldn’t have happened.
Someone like Talau , should help with this , as he doesn’t lack enthusiasm, and I’m sure the defensive structure taught , would have sunk in , as he doesn’t and wouldn’t have the “I know boats “ eye roll going on .

I also think BJ rubs off on his brother , because I can’t remember when they were on opposite sides of the field , Luci looking like he was disinterested.
 
I'm pretty confident Madge is going to give Brooks at least a dozen games 2021 before he thinks about making a change in the halves.

The fall-back options are not exactly knocking the door down - Madden or Mbye, Zack D-C.

Might as well throw in with Brooks and just ride out the errors, because you will do your head in hoping every week that he gets dropped. I kept waiting for Sheensie to drop Fitzhenry and it basically never happened.
 
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321448) said:
@tigers_tale said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321437) said:
Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, **blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game.** We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Unfortunately those two bad kicks arent something to just ignore.

We are a team that needs momentum and giving away 7 tackles sets and releasing the pressure valve so easily kills that.

Yes only two bad kicks but those two bad kicks killed everything good we had been building. We never recovered after that.

I don't know about anyone else, but I felt a great sense of relief when we got caught with the ball on the last tackle and handed the ball over 10 metres out.

It was definitely a better result than the kick into the in goal area and gifting a 7 tackle set and a quick 20 metre tap putting us under immense pressure.
 
@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1320576) said:
@russell said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1320481) said:
@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1320211) said:
His biggest problem is his personality. Nothing wrong with being the quiet type, but as a halfback, when you cross the white line, it’s time to become an animal. I’ve never seen him show emotion, he just takes his everyday personality onto the field, which is a big problem.

I saw him show emotion when he clocked Gagai, or doesn't that count.

Lol nah it doesn’t. How does punching an opposition player and getting binned help win a game. Emotion I’m talking about is him barking orders to the rest of the team, or getting stuck into them behind the goal line after a try has been scored. Any examples of those Russ?

Firstly you didn't specify what type of emotion - so I just grabbed an obvious one. The other point you made this time is that he doesn't get up people behind the goal line - I think that is the captains job, so Tamou should be ripping into them.

As for barking orders, under the circumstances, and his personality and reluctance to do this - currently I think AD should have this job until Luke sorts his own game out. Let him concentrate on his kicks etc. Maybe even give him the goal kicking so that would be one thing less AD would have to worry about. That would even allow AD to rip into the boys whilst LB is having a shot. We have no one better at 7, so we need to help him get back to playing at his best, we know he can do it.
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321522) said:
@carltonleach said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321465) said:
Has anyone read the article from benji about helping Brooks?

Man I hope he's not helping him. Benji is the king of putting balls 20m past the dead ball line.

Ahaha that's what i was thinking also lmao
 
Was critical of Luke but I wish I had my time again to retract some of what I said. I don't know the guy, but if he isn't the most confident, then this lynch mob formed of has-beens and never-weres (like me) isn't going to help him.

Keep your head up Luke, you are 100 times tougher than most of us and you can turn this around.
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321531) said:
Was critical of Luke but I wish I had my time again to retract some of what I said. I don't know the guy, but if he isn't the most confident, then this lynch mob formed of has-beens and never-weres (like me) isn't going to help him.

Keep your head up Luke, you are 100 times tougher than most of us and you can turn this around.

aww man, now I feel bad too.
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321531) said:
Was critical of Luke but I wish I had my time again to retract some of what I said. I don't know the guy, but if he isn't the most confident, then this lynch mob formed of has-beens and never-weres (like me) isn't going to help him.

Keep your head up Luke, you are 100 times tougher than most of us and you can turn this around.

The bloke is being paid a lot of money to fail at his job.
I'd be out on the streets if I failed for 8 years in my job. Would have been out in my first yearly review.
 
@cleanskin said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321546) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321531) said:
Was critical of Luke but I wish I had my time again to retract some of what I said. I don't know the guy, but if he isn't the most confident, then this lynch mob formed of has-beens and never-weres (like me) isn't going to help him.

Keep your head up Luke, you are 100 times tougher than most of us and you can turn this around.

The bloke is being paid a lot of money to fail at his job.
I'd be out on the streets if I failed for 8 years in my job. Would have been out in my first yearly review.

Valid criticism of his football is fine with me. He doesn't fail alone and his pay, personality etc are really outside of my control or yours, but I reckon there are many people on big money who would trade it all to be a Neville Nobody.
 
@cleanskin said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321546) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321531) said:
Was critical of Luke but I wish I had my time again to retract some of what I said. I don't know the guy, but if he isn't the most confident, then this lynch mob formed of has-beens and never-weres (like me) isn't going to help him.

Keep your head up Luke, you are 100 times tougher than most of us and you can turn this around.

I'd be out on the streets if I failed for 8 years in my job. Would have been out in my first yearly review.

Well, the shoe wouldn’t fit in this case.

Brooks won NRL rookie of the year in his first year. So he should have been sacked after his 1st year?
 
@tigerbalm said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321541) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321531) said:
Was critical of Luke but I wish I had my time again to retract some of what I said. I don't know the guy, but if he isn't the most confident, then this lynch mob formed of has-beens and never-weres (like me) isn't going to help him.

Keep your head up Luke, you are 100 times tougher than most of us and you can turn this around.

aww man, now I feel bad too.

Not my intention to stop judging a player and then transfer that judgement to other forum ppl.

Absolutely fine to criticise, we are fans it's part of the deal. Reading about threats and insults made me reflect on where that line is between being reasonable and overdoing it. In discussions with others I try not to type anything I wouldn't say to your face, so I'm really reflecting on whether I extend that to players.

I have to admit I don't want to take this too far and be PC as I'm a rabid Tigers fan and the stuff I write about opposition players is stuff I yell at them at every opportunity.
 
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321558) said:
@cleanskin said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321546) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321531) said:
Was critical of Luke but I wish I had my time again to retract some of what I said. I don't know the guy, but if he isn't the most confident, then this lynch mob formed of has-beens and never-weres (like me) isn't going to help him.

Keep your head up Luke, you are 100 times tougher than most of us and you can turn this around.


I'd be out on the streets if I failed for 8 years in my job. Would have been out in my first yearly review.

Well, the shoe wouldn’t fit in this case.

Brooks won NRL rookie of the year in his first year. So he should have been sacked after his 1st year?

The point is that in my work contract I have goals I have to meet or be terminated. Luke has the luxury to not have that clause in his contract and fail miserably.
Nobody should have any shame in bagging him.
 
After Seven Seasons, Brooks is a known quantity. This is his ceiling, if you're expecting a massive uplift in performance you're naive.


Is Brooks part of the next Tigers premiership?

The answer is 'no'.
 
@harvey said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1320776) said:
@bengali_wolf said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1320608) said:
I noticed a couple of times in Sunday's game when Brooks got the ball, he would look left and everyone on that side was just standing flat footed. No one was ready to run on to the ball and most times he either turned back the other way or just took the tackle.

There are a lot of people who think he's not up to 1st grade standard, and maybe that's true. But a halfback needs to be able to rely on his outside men to make a play work. Think back to Lawrence and the way he at least tried to run angles at speed on the left edge. Perhaps it would have been a different story on Sunday if Brooks had Luciano running with the same intensity off his left shoulder.

This is a team sport and when they all look flat, we shouldn't just point the finger at the playmaker. Give him something to work with.

I think that is actually a good point. We seem to be a lazy or poorly coached team. No 2nd phase play (and when attempted players aren't ready) no players in motion. One of the biggest reasons our attack is poor is it's predictability. It is not hard to see who will be getting the ball and focus pressure on them.

Madge is a proven super coach.
More likely a problem with players to comprehend and initiate and execute game play.
The missed tackles discipline poor attack is definitely on the players to own it.
I would love to blame the coach but it's us it's our club our board our Campbeltown location , who wants to live at Campbelltown instead of city or beach ,
The fact we can not recruit or retain real talent.
 
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1321513) said:
Benji is being nice.

What he really means is that he doesnt think Luke is up to running an NRL side.

Is that paraphrasing "Kick On Tackle Two" Marshall?
 
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