Luke Brooks

[jadtiger]

Robert Lui.. what a blast from the past. He must have one of the highest win:loss rations for WT

Was he the one we punted due to DV issues?


Yes he was.An excellent 7 imho and an absolute flog of the highest order off the field.I loathe wife/partner beaters

Was he really that good though? Or was he made to look good having 2 spine players who were arguably the best players in their respective positions at that present time

Seriously benji turned everything into gold. He made players like Elford, Fitzhenry, Ashyford, Beau Ryan etc look like above average first graders

Robert Luis career post Marshall , in the super league and @ the cowboys was not that flash.

He was better than the average 7 certainly not top echelon but one of the better halves running around

 

[Tigers_Tale]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

 

[cleanskin]

Someone please link the Benji article discussing Brooks positional change advice. It's in the Tele and behind a Paywall

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Luke Brooks, my true king
Your lead boot raises neck hairs
Best halfback in town

 

[Saturnalia]

Luke Brooks, my true king
Your lead boot raises neck hairs
Best halfback in town

Your haiku makes me sad.

 

[The_Patriot]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, **blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game.** We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Unfortunately those two bad kicks arent something to just ignore.

We are a team that needs momentum and giving away 7 tackles sets and releasing the pressure valve so easily kills that.

Yes only two bad kicks but those two bad kicks killed everything good we had been building. We never recovered after that.

 

[innsaneink]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Have a look at the lack of effort and attitude right across the park
Not acceptable

 

[tony soprano]

I get Anasta / J Rey vibes if we sign him tbh

He's nuggety, will get slower and have less acceleration and I don't see his defence improving. Doesn't seem much of a competitor like a Maloney or a Thurston.

But his kicking and passing game alone makes me think he can last at least 2-3 years more given the right motivation. I would be enquiring and figure out if he's actually interested in being a leader at this club or just here for a retirement package.

D not the best too

 

[avocadoontoast]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Great, another ‘so called supporters’ post.

 

[Speed2burn]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Brooks played well, I thought aswell APART from the repeat sets

He undoes everything when he plugs 3+ kicks that go well over the dead ball line. Seriously most halves in the game would be lucky to do that once every couple games

Brooks manages to do it atleast 3 times a game

 

[carltonleach]

Has anyone read the article from benji about helping Brooks?

 

[tbones10]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Hi Tiger Tale, I'm not having a go at you, but its not the two bad kicks, its the lack of on field leadership, direction, structure, communication and options, he is paid well to provide these things and its not happening. A decent half back,even in a crap team, (think Cherry Evans) is capable of these things and will drag a team around the park by letting everyone what is happening, what is about to happen and what will happen two tackles from now. They will also adjust when things aren't working out.
After an entire off season preparing and saying it is his team now after two rounds, he is not showing any of these things. For the love of god, I hope he lifts and I end up eating humble pie, but after 150 games and seven seasons and what he has shown so far, I can't see it happening.

 

[tiger_one]

Someone please link the Benji article discussing Brooks positional change advice. It's in the Tele and behind a Paywall

Wests Tigers halfback Luke Brooks should switch positions, says Benji Marshall

Luke Brooks has played most of his career at halfback, but Benji Marshall says its time for a positional switch to get the Tigers back on track.
Fatima Kdouh
5 min read
March 23, 2021 - 8:03PM

Club legend Benji Marshall believes former teammate Luke Brooks should shift from halfback and “needs more help from the people around him” to succeed at the Wests Tigers.
Tigers coach Michael Maguire wielded the axe on Tuesday dropping centre Joey Leilua to NSW Cup after the Sydney Roosters ran riot against the Tigers last weekend at Campbelltown Stadium.
But Tigers great Marshall, who played 257 games for the Concord club, also believes making the call to change Brooks’ role in the side could see the 26-year old finally playing to his strengths.
“I think his strength is his running game. So if it was up to me I would be playing him at five-eighth and finding a halfback that can run the team,” Marshall said.
Adam Doueihi, who rose through the junior ranks as a halfback, started his Tigers career as a fullback but has moved to five-eighth to form a new combination with Brooks following Marshall’s departure from the Tigers last season.
Marshall said playing Doueihi at halfback, rather than in the number six jumper, could “take the pressure off him [Brooks] a bit”.

According to Marshall, the Tigers halves combination which is only one game old, showed promise against the Roosters when the responsibility of kicking rested with Doueihi.
“I thought he [Brooks] started the game with great intent, running the footy and letting Adam do a lot of the kicking. I called the game on Triple M and I was watching pretty closely. He put in a couple of kicks he’d probably want to have again,” Marshall said.
“But they are just finding their feet with their combinations too.
“Adam wasn’t there the first game, there’s been chop and change for them. A different hooker too, Harry Grant is not there. So a lot of things are different.”
While Brooks is in his ninth season of NRL and has 150 games under his belt, the rest of the Tigers spine only has a total of 102 games of NRL experience combined.
Doueihi, 22, has already played 51 games but only five have been in the halves, hooker Jacob Liddle has played 46 games over six seasons and rising fullback Daine Laurie has only played five matches in total at the top level.
According to Marshall, the lack of experience has only added even more pressure on Brooks.
“There is a lot of pressure on Luke at the moment and it is probably affecting him in a way,” Marshall said.
“I think he needs more help from the people around him, that’s just my opinion.
“I know Luke pretty well. When he is on his game he doesn’t have to worry about ‘doing this, doing that’. He has other people helping him do that stuff.
“They have a couple of inexperienced halves there and an inexperienced fullback so the weight on the world is probably on him at the moment.”
Benji Marshall and Luke Brooks celebrate a Tigers try in 2018.
After a meteoric rise into the NRL as an 18-year old, Brooks’ talents were quickly compared to that of Newcastle legend and Immortal Andrew Johns.
Since then, pundits have criticised Brooks for not reaching a level of expectation, that Marshall believes has been unfairly placed on the halfback.
“That is everyone else‘s expectations, when he was very young he got compared to Joey straight away. That is pretty unfair because he had only played one game,” Marshall said.
“He was Dally M Halfback of the Year in 2018… you don’t get that from nothing, you don’t get that from being a bad player.
“There is something there. It’s just how do they bring that out of him, or how they unlock that.
“I feel sorry for him… I don’t like seeing anyone cop it in the media or cop it from fans. That’s the nature of that sport we are in.”

 

[Speed2burn]

I get Anasta / J Rey vibes if we sign him tbh

He's nuggety, will get slower and have less acceleration and I don't see his defence improving. Doesn't seem much of a competitor like a Maloney or a Thurston.

But his kicking and passing game alone makes me think he can last at least 2-3 years more given the right motivation. I would be enquiring and figure out if he's actually interested in being a leader at this club or just here for a retirement package.

Injury prone and played behind a good team most of his career , I could be wrong but past signings this club has made gives me PTSD lol

 

[diedpretty]

Someone please link the Benji article discussing Brooks positional change advice. It's in the Tele and behind a Paywall


Wests Tigers halfback Luke Brooks should switch positions, says Benji Marshall

Luke Brooks has played most of his career at halfback, but Benji Marshall says its time for a positional switch to get the Tigers back on track.
Fatima Kdouh
5 min read
March 23, 2021 - 8:03PM

Club legend Benji Marshall believes former teammate Luke Brooks should shift from halfback and “needs more help from the people around him” to succeed at the Wests Tigers.
Tigers coach Michael Maguire wielded the axe on Tuesday dropping centre Joey Leilua to NSW Cup after the Sydney Roosters ran riot against the Tigers last weekend at Campbelltown Stadium.
But Tigers great Marshall, who played 257 games for the Concord club, also believes making the call to change Brooks’ role in the side could see the 26-year old finally playing to his strengths.
“I think his strength is his running game. So if it was up to me I would be playing him at five-eighth and finding a halfback that can run the team,” Marshall said.
Adam Doueihi, who rose through the junior ranks as a halfback, started his Tigers career as a fullback but has moved to five-eighth to form a new combination with Brooks following Marshall’s departure from the Tigers last season.
Marshall said playing Doueihi at halfback, rather than in the number six jumper, could “take the pressure off him [Brooks] a bit”.

According to Marshall, the Tigers halves combination which is only one game old, showed promise against the Roosters when the responsibility of kicking rested with Doueihi.
“I thought he [Brooks] started the game with great intent, running the footy and letting Adam do a lot of the kicking. I called the game on Triple M and I was watching pretty closely. He put in a couple of kicks he’d probably want to have again,” Marshall said.
“But they are just finding their feet with their combinations too.
“Adam wasn’t there the first game, there’s been chop and change for them. A different hooker too, Harry Grant is not there. So a lot of things are different.”
While Brooks is in his ninth season of NRL and has 150 games under his belt, the rest of the Tigers spine only has a total of 102 games of NRL experience combined.
Doueihi, 22, has already played 51 games but only five have been in the halves, hooker Jacob Liddle has played 46 games over six seasons and rising fullback Daine Laurie has only played five matches in total at the top level.
According to Marshall, the lack of experience has only added even more pressure on Brooks.
“There is a lot of pressure on Luke at the moment and it is probably affecting him in a way,” Marshall said.
“I think he needs more help from the people around him, that’s just my opinion.
“I know Luke pretty well. When he is on his game he doesn’t have to worry about ‘doing this, doing that’. He has other people helping him do that stuff.
“They have a couple of inexperienced halves there and an inexperienced fullback so the weight on the world is probably on him at the moment.”
Benji Marshall and Luke Brooks celebrate a Tigers try in 2018.
After a meteoric rise into the NRL as an 18-year old, Brooks’ talents were quickly compared to that of Newcastle legend and Immortal Andrew Johns.
Since then, pundits have criticised Brooks for not reaching a level of expectation, that Marshall believes has been unfairly placed on the halfback.
“That is everyone else‘s expectations, when he was very young he got compared to Joey straight away. That is pretty unfair because he had only played one game,” Marshall said.
“He was Dally M Halfback of the Year in 2018… you don’t get that from nothing, you don’t get that from being a bad player.
“There is something there. It’s just how do they bring that out of him, or how they unlock that.
“I feel sorry for him… I don’t like seeing anyone cop it in the media or cop it from fans. That’s the nature of that sport we are in.”

I think Benji has just been reading the forum posts. Just about everyone on here that says the only way Brooks can stay in first grade is to take the organisational stuff off him and let him play his natural running game.

 

[Needaname]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Brooks played well, I thought aswell APART from the repeat sets

He undoes everything when he plugs 3+ kicks that go well over the dead ball line. Seriously most halves in the game would be lucky to do that once every couple games

Brooks manages to do it atleast 3 times a game

That’s just not true. Most of Brooks kicks either hit a defender or fall short of the line. This is the first time I’ve seen in a while him kick dead for a 7 tackle set.
Recently I’ve felt his been not willing to risk attempting the kick as it is a fine line in getting it right. Reynolds does it almost once every game. There were about 2 or 3 in the Melbourne/Souths game. It’s only high lighted when it’s our players making the error.
Well I say Kudos to him for starting to get the confidence to attempt it.
Shame about the lack of structure of the chasing side.
As mentioned other teams fail to execute it at times but as you said, those kicks were the turning point in the game.
The question everyone needs to ask is why?

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Robert Lui… what a blast from the past. He must have one of the highest win:loss rations for WT
Was he the one we punted due to DV issues?

Yes.

Lui was a perfect foil for Benji back then. Actually thought he was probably close to our best player in both those finals series.

 

[innsaneink]


 

[Speed2burn]

Cannot believe most of you so called Tiger supporters on this site, you have a team , where most of the players have never played together and have just come off a shorter off season than usual. They come against two sides that are rated in the top 4. Sure they got beaten badly, but a halftime they were in both those games. Then there is the usual excuse most of you come up with, blame Brookes, and sure he put two dud kicks in , but apart from that he had a good game. We had more than two dud calls from the ref, It was clear Roosters had a game plan, ie run towards BJ. That worked and they won the game.

Brooks played well, I thought aswell APART from the repeat sets

He undoes everything when he plugs 3+ kicks that go well over the dead ball line. Seriously most halves in the game would be lucky to do that once every couple games

Brooks manages to do it atleast 3 times a game

That’s just not true. Most of Brooks kicks either hit a defender or fall short of the line. This is the first time I’ve seen in a while him kick dead for a 7 tackle set.
Recently I’ve felt his been not willing to risk attempting the kick as it is a fine line in getting it right. Reynolds does it almost once every game. There were about 2 or 3 in the Melbourne/Souths game. It’s only high lighted when it’s our players making the error.
Well I say Kudos to him for starting to get the confidence to attempt it.
Shame about the lack of structure of the chasing side.
As mentioned other teams fail to execute it at times but as you said, those kicks were the turning point in the game.
The question everyone needs to ask is why?

I probably over-exaggerated but the elephant in the room has been his execution . He absolutely nailed it and it was his strong point in 2018, I just don’t get why it has changed?

Agree on the kick chase thing as well, first kick he puts up for teddy and wallops him. Because he actually put in the effort to chase. Effort areas such as that go a long way

 

[cleanskin]

Exactly. 6 and 7 switch has been a forum special for a year.