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I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…

I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.

Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.

Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.

I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.

He's on $850k. It's been reported as such widely for the last couple of seasons since his extension. He certainly is on Big dollars

What’s the issue with Brooks’ remuneration? There’s at least 12 halves in the comp on $850k or higher some not as good as Brooks. There’s also a dozen or more on less, some better than Brooks and some not as good imo.

There were but most of the highly paid halves that were overpaid are all out of contract as of Monday. Milford, Taylor, Moylan, Johnson. Mostly the only ones left getting paid big coin actually deserve it.

Brooks is a 300k max half based on what he produces yet he's paid triple that basically. It's a really bad contract for the club as far as squad culture and morale as it'd be really demotivating to bust a gut while your halfback produces nothing and earns way more than you do


His work rate is quite high eg avg 20 tackles, while say Tamou avg is 22.

Yeah, and he tackles a lot harder than some of the forwards as well, coach does not have to hide him. Not to mention that he is also faster than most in the team.

How would anyone know he is faster than most ...he rarely hits the line at full speed ...which seeing he is a running half 1st and foremost ......don't get me started again .....

years of frustration, years of incompetence in the vital moments, years of making this my team... please extract the toothache

Or stop trying to turn him into an organizing half ...or bring an organizing half

Is Brooks the problem ...is Madge the problem ..or is too many coaches in his past telling him different info the problem....or is the lack of talented recruitment the problem

That is more my reasoning now for Brooks to go ...the bloke doesn't know if he is Arthur or Martha anymore

We need someone with a clean slate .......

I can't agree with the idea that Brooks career is only going to be saved by changing clubs. If that were true then it must also apply to 16 other players.
 
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@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497765) said:
More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

He would have been better off taking the tackle. It was ruled no try on field, was only called back for review because he scored.

That was the game against Warriors , but like i said he done this many times, its something that Reynolds would be incapable of.

Why would Reynolds be incapable of running the length when no one is chasing?


And kicking for repeat sets, kicking 40 20’s, 2 point field goals, setting up attacking raids, putting players through gaps, captaining a side to victory in finals series…these are things Brooks is incapable of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxjF66OYbX0

Fantastic video paws. We tend to forget how good Brooks was & can be again.As shown in this video, when you multiple good players( Farah, Brooks , Tedesco, Woods, Lawrence, Moses ) the defence has to make a choice & it takes the pressure off one playmaker. Brooks has been carrying that load now for a long time. It just goes to show what we could of been doing these last few years if that poor excuse for a coach jason taylor hadnt ripped this club apart.

Yes that spine was stacked with talent, and they were also there every week. We also had a decent pack.
 
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@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497765) said:
More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really


That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.

I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.


Here is something to think about!

**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**

Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats

Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359

Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38

These are all NRL stats

In summary

Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads

Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way

Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.

I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?

Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.

All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.

Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.

Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.

He would have been better off taking the tackle. It was ruled no try on field, was only called back for review because he scored.

That was the game against Warriors , but like i said he done this many times, its something that Reynolds would be incapable of.

Why would Reynolds be incapable of running the length when no one is chasing?


And kicking for repeat sets, kicking 40 20’s, 2 point field goals, setting up attacking raids, putting players through gaps, captaining a side to victory in finals series…these are things Brooks is incapable of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxjF66OYbX0

Fantastic video paws. We tend to forget how good Brooks was & can be again.As shown in this video, when you multiple good players( Farah, Brooks , Tedesco, Woods, Lawrence, Moses ) the defence has to make a choice & it takes the pressure off one playmaker. Brooks has been carrying that load now for a long time. It just goes to show what we could of been doing these last few years if that poor excuse for a coach jason taylor hadnt ripped this club apart.

Yes that spine was stacked with talent, and they were also there every week. We also had a decent pack.

That was our turning point. We were on the build and in the right direction there, things could go both ways. We can see which direction we went. Im not sure if Potter would have been the man to do it, but it is very clear that Taylor wasnt.
 
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499222) said:
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@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499208) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499155) said:
Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend

![Screen Shot 2021-10-28 at 9.55.58 pm.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635418563345-screen-shot-2021-10-28-at-9.55.58-pm.png)

Don't worry ...I'm sure Luke can't wait for you take all the criticism that is coming

He's probably copped 50% of Brooks' criticism already.

- Not allowed to say he's a good person
- Posts on social media too much
- ESL is inferior and he's not up to NRL
- Too slow

All before he's got to pre-season.

Well if you want ..$1000 bet ...we can have the best 4 NRL sides play the best 4 ESL sides and see the scorelines ...seeing your backing the ESL you take them ...and I'll take the NRL sides ....

You left out his defence ......which is below ESL standards .....and he doesn't have that zip over the first 5 metres that an NRL half needs to pull defences apart ...teams will sit on his ball playing because he won't be quick enough to get on the outside of an NRL edge

Couldn't care less what he says on social media or if he is a good bloke Scotty Minto is a lovely bloke as well ...doesn't affect what he does on field ...and I haven't commented on that .....

Or you could let him put the jersey on first and see how he goes and if he fails miserably, criticise him then?

Why? If we were signing Ash Taylor or Anthony Milford would we not be entitled to an opinion?
He's been around well long enough for anyone to express an opinion on him.
Seriously though... He's been touted on here as some kind of saviour - The second coming if you will?

Why - How?
He's done nothing, And most of the opinions I see offered are in direct response to someone clapping him along like he's going to turn a team full of no ones around because it's all Luke Brooks fault they're rubbish.....
Blows my mind...
 
@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499225) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499222) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499220) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499217) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499208) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499155) said:
Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend

![Screen Shot 2021-10-28 at 9.55.58 pm.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635418563345-screen-shot-2021-10-28-at-9.55.58-pm.png)

Don't worry ...I'm sure Luke can't wait for you take all the criticism that is coming

He's probably copped 50% of Brooks' criticism already.

- Not allowed to say he's a good person
- Posts on social media too much
- ESL is inferior and he's not up to NRL
- Too slow

All before he's got to pre-season.

Well if you want ..$1000 bet ...we can have the best 4 NRL sides play the best 4 ESL sides and see the scorelines ...seeing your backing the ESL you take them ...and I'll take the NRL sides ....

You left out his defence ......which is below ESL standards .....and he doesn't have that zip over the first 5 metres that an NRL half needs to pull defences apart ...teams will sit on his ball playing because he won't be quick enough to get on the outside of an NRL edge

Couldn't care less what he says on social media or if he is a good bloke Scotty Minto is a lovely bloke as well ...doesn't affect what he does on field ...and I haven't commented on that .....

Or you could let him put the jersey on first and see how he goes and if he fails miserably, criticise him then?

Same applies for those calling him to be captain. Think why some are skeptical is because we have seen these types of signings before and they never live up to the hype. He comes off as a poor man’s Josh Reynolds.

Agree, he shouldn't be considered as a captain until he at least as a bare minimum owns a starting spot. Hopefully, we've learnt our lesson about making someone captain in their first year at the club. As far as I can tell, he's not coming with a huge Josh Reynolds or Mbye cost so he shouldn't come with those expectations.
 
@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499247) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499222) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499220) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499217) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499208) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499155) said:
Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend

![Screen Shot 2021-10-28 at 9.55.58 pm.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635418563345-screen-shot-2021-10-28-at-9.55.58-pm.png)

Don't worry ...I'm sure Luke can't wait for you take all the criticism that is coming

He's probably copped 50% of Brooks' criticism already.

- Not allowed to say he's a good person
- Posts on social media too much
- ESL is inferior and he's not up to NRL
- Too slow

All before he's got to pre-season.

Well if you want ..$1000 bet ...we can have the best 4 NRL sides play the best 4 ESL sides and see the scorelines ...seeing your backing the ESL you take them ...and I'll take the NRL sides ....

You left out his defence ......which is below ESL standards .....and he doesn't have that zip over the first 5 metres that an NRL half needs to pull defences apart ...teams will sit on his ball playing because he won't be quick enough to get on the outside of an NRL edge

Couldn't care less what he says on social media or if he is a good bloke Scotty Minto is a lovely bloke as well ...doesn't affect what he does on field ...and I haven't commented on that .....

Or you could let him put the jersey on first and see how he goes and if he fails miserably, criticise him then?

Why? If we were signing Ash Taylor or Anthony Milford would we not be entitled to an opinion?
He's been around well long enough for anyone to express an opinion on him.
Seriously though... He's been touted on here as some kind of saviour - The second coming if you will?

Why - How?
He's done nothing, And most of the opinions I see offered are in direct response to someone clapping him along like he's going to turn a team full of no ones around because it's all Luke Brooks fault they're rubbish.....
Blows my mind...

Who has touted him as a saviour? Some are hopeful he can cement a spot in the halves particularly while AD is injured.
 
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499258) said:
@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499247) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499222) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499220) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499217) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499208) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499155) said:
Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend

![Screen Shot 2021-10-28 at 9.55.58 pm.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635418563345-screen-shot-2021-10-28-at-9.55.58-pm.png)

Don't worry ...I'm sure Luke can't wait for you take all the criticism that is coming

He's probably copped 50% of Brooks' criticism already.

- Not allowed to say he's a good person
- Posts on social media too much
- ESL is inferior and he's not up to NRL
- Too slow

All before he's got to pre-season.

Well if you want ..$1000 bet ...we can have the best 4 NRL sides play the best 4 ESL sides and see the scorelines ...seeing your backing the ESL you take them ...and I'll take the NRL sides ....

You left out his defence ......which is below ESL standards .....and he doesn't have that zip over the first 5 metres that an NRL half needs to pull defences apart ...teams will sit on his ball playing because he won't be quick enough to get on the outside of an NRL edge

Couldn't care less what he says on social media or if he is a good bloke Scotty Minto is a lovely bloke as well ...doesn't affect what he does on field ...and I haven't commented on that .....

Or you could let him put the jersey on first and see how he goes and if he fails miserably, criticise him then?

Why? If we were signing Ash Taylor or Anthony Milford would we not be entitled to an opinion?
He's been around well long enough for anyone to express an opinion on him.
Seriously though... He's been touted on here as some kind of saviour - The second coming if you will?

Why - How?
He's done nothing, And most of the opinions I see offered are in direct response to someone clapping him along like he's going to turn a team full of no ones around because it's all Luke Brooks fault they're rubbish.....
Blows my mind...

Who has touted him as a saviour? Some are hopeful he can cement a spot in the halves particularly while AD is injured.

Take your pick
- There's calls here for him to be Captain....

(Read that twice and let it sink in)
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499076) said:
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@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

A statement from Sheens has not stopped Brooks, via his agent approaching other clubs. That's why the stories are still there.
 
@gregjm87 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499082) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499076) said:
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@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

I dont want to believe it. Not just because i dont think we have a better option than Brooks but also I dont want the first strongly worded statement from Sheens to amount to nothing. Kind of feels what is the point of getting Sheens in if were going to go against his wishes on the first big decision hes had to make.

Sheen's statement isn't the issue. It's Brooks' management still trying to get him out
 
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499268) said:
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@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499075) said:
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

A statement from Sheens has not stopped Brooks, via his agent approaching other clubs. That's why the stories are still there.

If you believe the media/journalists.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499274) said:
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499268) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499076) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499075) said:
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

A statement from Sheens has not stopped Brooks, via his agent approaching other clubs. That's why the stories are still there.

If you believe the media/journalists.

When it's come from Andrew Webster and he's put his name to it. Then yeah I do
 
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499269) said:
@gregjm87 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499082) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499076) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499075) said:
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

I dont want to believe it. Not just because i dont think we have a better option than Brooks but also I dont want the first strongly worded statement from Sheens to amount to nothing. Kind of feels what is the point of getting Sheens in if were going to go against his wishes on the first big decision hes had to make.

Sheen's statement isn't the issue. It's Brooks' management still trying to get him out

It is the issue Camel. Regardless of what you have written, Sheens has said he will be with the club.
 
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499275) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499274) said:
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499268) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499076) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499075) said:
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

A statement from Sheens has not stopped Brooks, via his agent approaching other clubs. That's why the stories are still there.

If you believe the media/journalists.

When it's come from Andrew Webster and he's put his name to it. Then yeah I do

Fair enough. I dont.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499276) said:
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499269) said:
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@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

I dont want to believe it. Not just because i dont think we have a better option than Brooks but also I dont want the first strongly worded statement from Sheens to amount to nothing. Kind of feels what is the point of getting Sheens in if were going to go against his wishes on the first big decision hes had to make.

Sheen's statement isn't the issue. It's Brooks' management still trying to get him out

It is the issue Camel. Regardless of what you have written, Sheens has said he will be with the club.

I meant that the articles won't stop while Brooks has his representatives going behind the club's back
 
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499279) said:
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@gregjm87 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499082) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499076) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499075) said:
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

I dont want to believe it. Not just because i dont think we have a better option than Brooks but also I dont want the first strongly worded statement from Sheens to amount to nothing. Kind of feels what is the point of getting Sheens in if were going to go against his wishes on the first big decision hes had to make.

Sheen's statement isn't the issue. It's Brooks' management still trying to get him out

It is the issue Camel. Regardless of what you have written, Sheens has said he will be with the club.

I meant that the articles won't stop while Brooks has his representatives going behind the club's back

Even if I accept you are correct (which I don't), Sheens has said he will be at WTs. End of story.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499280) said:
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499276) said:
@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499269) said:
@gregjm87 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499082) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499076) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499075) said:
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499054) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499031) said:
Anyone else find it arrogant that DT still pushing for the Luke Brooks release?

Think sheens made it very clear.

It's the DT though - they're not exactly known for accuracy and intelligence, let alone truth.

So annoying just don't click I guess.

We've people on this forum who will want to believe it despite the strong statement from Sheens.

I dont want to believe it. Not just because i dont think we have a better option than Brooks but also I dont want the first strongly worded statement from Sheens to amount to nothing. Kind of feels what is the point of getting Sheens in if were going to go against his wishes on the first big decision hes had to make.

Sheen's statement isn't the issue. It's Brooks' management still trying to get him out

It is the issue Camel. Regardless of what you have written, Sheens has said he will be with the club.

I meant that the articles won't stop while Brooks has his representatives going behind the club's back

Even if I accept you are correct (which I don't), Sheens has said he will be at WTs. End of story.

Both things are possible to be true at once, but given the probabilities of truth and the way journalists twist words and sources, the significant weight of truth lie on Sheens statement....IMO.
 
@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499265) said:
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@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499208) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499155) said:
Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend

![Screen Shot 2021-10-28 at 9.55.58 pm.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635418563345-screen-shot-2021-10-28-at-9.55.58-pm.png)

Don't worry ...I'm sure Luke can't wait for you take all the criticism that is coming

He's probably copped 50% of Brooks' criticism already.

- Not allowed to say he's a good person
- Posts on social media too much
- ESL is inferior and he's not up to NRL
- Too slow

All before he's got to pre-season.

Well if you want ..$1000 bet ...we can have the best 4 NRL sides play the best 4 ESL sides and see the scorelines ...seeing your backing the ESL you take them ...and I'll take the NRL sides ....

You left out his defence ......which is below ESL standards .....and he doesn't have that zip over the first 5 metres that an NRL half needs to pull defences apart ...teams will sit on his ball playing because he won't be quick enough to get on the outside of an NRL edge

Couldn't care less what he says on social media or if he is a good bloke Scotty Minto is a lovely bloke as well ...doesn't affect what he does on field ...and I haven't commented on that .....

Or you could let him put the jersey on first and see how he goes and if he fails miserably, criticise him then?

Why? If we were signing Ash Taylor or Anthony Milford would we not be entitled to an opinion?
He's been around well long enough for anyone to express an opinion on him.
Seriously though... He's been touted on here as some kind of saviour - The second coming if you will?

Why - How?
He's done nothing, And most of the opinions I see offered are in direct response to someone clapping him along like he's going to turn a team full of no ones around because it's all Luke Brooks fault they're rubbish.....
Blows my mind...

Who has touted him as a saviour? Some are hopeful he can cement a spot in the halves particularly while AD is injured.

Take your pick
- There's calls here for him to be Captain....

(Read that twice and let it sink in)

Couldn’t be worse than Brooks leading his team to a massive stinker against the wooden spooners.
Just sayin’.
 
@cktiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499288) said:
@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499265) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499258) said:
@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499247) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499222) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499220) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499217) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499208) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499155) said:
Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend

![Screen Shot 2021-10-28 at 9.55.58 pm.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635418563345-screen-shot-2021-10-28-at-9.55.58-pm.png)

Don't worry ...I'm sure Luke can't wait for you take all the criticism that is coming

He's probably copped 50% of Brooks' criticism already.

- Not allowed to say he's a good person
- Posts on social media too much
- ESL is inferior and he's not up to NRL
- Too slow

All before he's got to pre-season.

Well if you want ..$1000 bet ...we can have the best 4 NRL sides play the best 4 ESL sides and see the scorelines ...seeing your backing the ESL you take them ...and I'll take the NRL sides ....

You left out his defence ......which is below ESL standards .....and he doesn't have that zip over the first 5 metres that an NRL half needs to pull defences apart ...teams will sit on his ball playing because he won't be quick enough to get on the outside of an NRL edge

Couldn't care less what he says on social media or if he is a good bloke Scotty Minto is a lovely bloke as well ...doesn't affect what he does on field ...and I haven't commented on that .....

Or you could let him put the jersey on first and see how he goes and if he fails miserably, criticise him then?

Why? If we were signing Ash Taylor or Anthony Milford would we not be entitled to an opinion?
He's been around well long enough for anyone to express an opinion on him.
Seriously though... He's been touted on here as some kind of saviour - The second coming if you will?

Why - How?
He's done nothing, And most of the opinions I see offered are in direct response to someone clapping him along like he's going to turn a team full of no ones around because it's all Luke Brooks fault they're rubbish.....
Blows my mind...

Who has touted him as a saviour? Some are hopeful he can cement a spot in the halves particularly while AD is injured.

Take your pick
- There's calls here for him to be Captain....

(Read that twice and let it sink in)

Couldn’t be worse than Brooks leading his team to a massive stinker against the wooden spooners.
Just sayin’.

Brooks would be the worst Captain in NRL history. The bloke is a mute
 
@cktiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499288) said:
@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499265) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499258) said:
@batboy said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499247) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499222) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499220) said:
@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499217) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499208) said:
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1499155) said:
Hasto on playing with Luke
Such a legend

![Screen Shot 2021-10-28 at 9.55.58 pm.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635418563345-screen-shot-2021-10-28-at-9.55.58-pm.png)

Don't worry ...I'm sure Luke can't wait for you take all the criticism that is coming

He's probably copped 50% of Brooks' criticism already.

- Not allowed to say he's a good person
- Posts on social media too much
- ESL is inferior and he's not up to NRL
- Too slow

All before he's got to pre-season.

Well if you want ..$1000 bet ...we can have the best 4 NRL sides play the best 4 ESL sides and see the scorelines ...seeing your backing the ESL you take them ...and I'll take the NRL sides ....

You left out his defence ......which is below ESL standards .....and he doesn't have that zip over the first 5 metres that an NRL half needs to pull defences apart ...teams will sit on his ball playing because he won't be quick enough to get on the outside of an NRL edge

Couldn't care less what he says on social media or if he is a good bloke Scotty Minto is a lovely bloke as well ...doesn't affect what he does on field ...and I haven't commented on that .....

Or you could let him put the jersey on first and see how he goes and if he fails miserably, criticise him then?

Why? If we were signing Ash Taylor or Anthony Milford would we not be entitled to an opinion?
He's been around well long enough for anyone to express an opinion on him.
Seriously though... He's been touted on here as some kind of saviour - The second coming if you will?

Why - How?
He's done nothing, And most of the opinions I see offered are in direct response to someone clapping him along like he's going to turn a team full of no ones around because it's all Luke Brooks fault they're rubbish.....
Blows my mind...

Who has touted him as a saviour? Some are hopeful he can cement a spot in the halves particularly while AD is injured.

Take your pick
- There's calls here for him to be Captain....

(Read that twice and let it sink in)

Couldn’t be worse than Brooks leading his team to a massive stinker against the wooden spooners.
Just sayin’.


A classic non answer.
 
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