Luke Brooks

[BAGNF05]

Adam Reynolds in 2021 - 9 Forced Drop Outs, Kicked Dead - 8, Kick Errors - 14, Try Assists- 14, Line Breaks -2 , Effective Offloads - 8, Run meters - 616, Line Engaged-265, General Play Passes -467

Luke Brooks 2021- 12 forced drop outs, Kicked Dead - 3 , Kick Errors - 7, Try Assists - 23, Line Breaks - 5, Effective Offloads - 23, Run meters - 1378 (2nd for HBs in comp), Line Engaged -354 (1st for HBs), General Play Passes-846 (1st for HBs)

Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good trolling

 

[weststigerman]

One thing that surprised me late in the season with Brooks was that he actually has a very good spiral bomb which I think he used twice, resulting in two dropped catches from memory. Wish he used that more often as his kicking game is so predictable.

IMO that mentality is why he has stagnated. He looks so afraid to make a mistake by going outside of what he’s expected to do. After he kicked a few grubbers dead or into defenders he stopped doing it completely. Has to be a confidence thing.

 

[weststigerman]

Adam Reynolds in 2021 - 9 Forced Drop Outs, Kicked Dead - 8, Kick Errors - 14, Try Assists- 14, Line Breaks -2 , Effective Offloads - 8, Run meters - 616, Line Engaged-265, General Play Passes -467

Luke Brooks 2021- 12 forced drop outs, Kicked Dead - 3 , Kick Errors - 7, Try Assists - 23, Line Breaks - 5, Effective Offloads - 23, Run meters - 1378 (2nd for HBs in comp), Line Engaged -354 (1st for HBs), General Play Passes-846 (1st for HBs)

Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good trolling

Yay we have the halfback who throws the most passes.

 

[Crucible]

Bye,Bye, the End is Near.......

 

[happy_tiger]

I can’t honestly see why we’d sell him - For any money.
If he wants out or we don’t want him and someone is willing to pay full freight… Then maybe.
Why we’d pay any freight is ridiculous to entertain…
We certainly won’t replace him for 400-500k…

I am hopeful Hastings is significantly better than Brooks but I completely agree with you. Why get him off the books when we very few options in the halves. Paying him to play elsewhere seems completely bonkers.

Only if we are paying the majority.
If the opportunity arises to rissole a serial poor performer on huge money, then as long as we can offload 75% of his salary, it would be an easy decision to make.

Is he costing us that much ? No one has confirmed that he is on big dollars and I don't think he is. Then we have Hastings, Doueihi and Madden as our halves options. Doueihi is injured. Madden hasn't looked great from what I've seen in reserve grade. Hastings is unproven.

I'm fine with letting him go but it just seems like a poor roster management decision at this point. It also seems really dumb to do it and actually pay the player to play elsewhere.

He's on $850k. It's been reported as such widely for the last couple of seasons since his extension. He certainly is on Big dollars

What’s the issue with Brooks’ remuneration? There’s at least 12 halves in the comp on $850k or higher some not as good as Brooks. There’s also a dozen or more on less, some better than Brooks and some not as good imo.

There were but most of the highly paid halves that were overpaid are all out of contract as of Monday. Milford, Taylor, Moylan, Johnson. Mostly the only ones left getting paid big coin actually deserve it.

Brooks is a 300k max half based on what he produces yet he's paid triple that basically. It's a really bad contract for the club as far as squad culture and morale as it'd be really demotivating to bust a gut while your halfback produces nothing and earns way more than you do


His work rate is quite high eg avg 20 tackles, while say Tamou avg is 22.

Yeah, and he tackles a lot harder than some of the forwards as well, coach does not have to hide him. Not to mention that he is also faster than most in the team.

How would anyone know he is faster than most ...he rarely hits the line at full speed ...which seeing he is a running half 1st and foremost ......don't get me started again .....

years of frustration, years of incompetence in the vital moments, years of making this my team... please extract the toothache

Or stop trying to turn him into an organizing half ...or bring an organizing half

Is Brooks the problem ...is Madge the problem ..or is too many coaches in his past telling him different info the problem....or is the lack of talented recruitment the problem

That is more my reasoning now for Brooks to go ...the bloke doesn't know if he is Arthur or Martha anymore

We need someone with a clean slate .......

I can't agree with the idea that Brooks career is only going to be saved by changing clubs. If that were true then it must also apply to 16 other players.

150 game rule applies ....

 

[Merlot]

Brookes should be shopped off.no more excuse's if he stays.will he end up in Newcastle,4 yrs ago,he was swapping with Pearce,as rumours go,why would he turn down getting taught by Johns,,he is an enigma.this thread will last loner than he

 

[boonboon]

Luke Brooks 2021- statistical performance among halfbacks
Try Assists - 23 (4th best)
Try Contributions - 13 (4th best)
Runs - 161 (3rd best)
Run meters - 1378 (3rd Best)
Line Breaks - 5 (10th best)
Line Break Assists - 14 (6th Best)
Tackle Breaks - 45 (4th Best)
Effective Offloads - 23 (3rd Best)
Errors - 23 (5th worst but better then DCE, Hunt, Reynolds, Clifford)
Penalties - 14 (worst amongst halves)
Possessions - 1450 (most possessions of any half in the comp)
Line Engagements - 354 (most in comp)
General Play Passes - 846 (most in comp)
Line Drop Outs forced - 12 (7th best)
Kick Meters - 6862 (5th best)
Attacking Kicks - 127 (2nd most)
Kicks Dead -3 (12th most)
Kick Errors - 7 (equal 8th)
Try Causes - 16 (3rd worst)
LB Causes - 18 (equal 3rd worst) behind DCE, Dearden and equla with Reynolds
Tackle Effectiveness - 82% (20th worst) better then likes of Cleary, Harris Tevita, Moses,Walker, Townsend, Clifford, Hunt, Johnson

Now I'm not saying Brooks was perfect but given how week the team was around him these indicate that the problem to me isnt Brooks

 

[TCL]

Brooks, "via his agent approaching other clubs" says it all IMO. Certainly the Player Agent has nothing to gain if Brooks leaves Tigers lolol (kickbacks surely don't exist hahaha). As it stands Tigers have enough problems making significant signings and as I understand cap compliant with room to move, so no need to cut him loose even though his form was down. Has shown loyalty to Tigers when others have not. Also no need to help opposition clubs unless it benefits us too.

How is having his management sniff around for a deal behind the club's back showing loyalty? It's the exact opposite of loyalty

Shock, but generally speaking some agents don't work in their clients best interests.

Nor do they act under client instructions. He may be speaking to other clubs but Brooks may not have instructed him to do so.

 

[twentyforty]

Adam Reynolds in 2021 - 9 Forced Drop Outs, Kicked Dead - 8, Kick Errors - 14, Try Assists- 14, Line Breaks -2 , Effective Offloads - 8, Run meters - 616, Line Engaged-265, General Play Passes -467

Luke Brooks 2021- 12 forced drop outs, Kicked Dead - 3 , Kick Errors - 7, Try Assists - 23, Line Breaks - 5, Effective Offloads - 23, Run meters - 1378 (2nd for HBs in comp), Line Engaged -354 (1st for HBs), General Play Passes-846 (1st for HBs)

Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good trolling

Yay we have the halfback who throws the most passes.

The significance of that shouldn’t be dismissed. We have a half with a high tackle rate, high possession rate. Why?
The team holding the trophy makes better use of their 7, with his forwards protecting him, and 13 at first receiver.
Game day commentators often describe how the good halves always have plenty of time. They don’t get that time by accident, or by constantly being under pressure.

 

[TCL]

We have a team that is not up to par, we had injuries in the later part of the season with two of our spine players out, also I’m not yet convinced AD’s best position is 5/8 and yet our biggest problem is Luke Brooks.

What about our centres, a genuine lack of pace in the backline. A team commitment to defence that couldn’t keep the local ladies bowlo team from scoring. A pack where only 2 or 3 of them could crack more than a 100mtrs a game or our inability to bend or break the line and Luke Brooks is our target.

I hope Hastings kills it in the coming year but the praise and expectations put on him may leave some disappointed.

I understand that some are frosted by brooks and have taken to trolling this thread and some have no solution to our problems other than to blame Luke Brooks. Who IMO opinion should leave the tigers for his careers sake however within this current squad he is probably one of the last people we should be moving on.

 

[twentyforty]

We have a team that is not up to par, we had injuries in the later part of the season with two of our spine players out, also I’m not yet convinced AD’s best position is 5/8 and yet our biggest problem is Luke Brooks.

What about our centres, a genuine lack of pace in the backline. **A team commitment to defence that couldn’t keep the local ladies bowlo team from scoring.** A pack where only 2 or 3 of them could crack more than a 100mtrs a game or our inability to bend or break the line and Luke Brooks is our target.

I hope Hastings kills it in the coming year but the praise and expectations put on him may leave some disappointed.

I understand that some are frosted by brooks and have taken to trolling this thread and some have no solution to our problems other than to blame Luke Brooks. Who IMO opinion should leave the tigers for his careers sake however within this current squad he is probably one of the last people we should be moving on.

Hahaha love it!

 

[240z]

He should be working on his 'Spiral Pass" all off-season.

Would make it much easier for Bwooksie to hit all the tall players on da team...

Absolutely, they can learn a lot about passing from Rugby. Send them down to train with Stephen James at West Harbour Rugby, former Australian Half back and specialist skills coach

 

[BAGNF05]

Brookes should be shopped off.no more excuse's if he stays.will he end up in Newcastle,4 yrs ago,he was swapping with Pearce,as rumours go,why would he turn down getting taught by Johns,,he is an enigma.this thread will last loner than he

You know he goes to Newy and Joey unlocks his game. It’s 100% Wests Tigers.

 

[TheMoth2]

I'd love to see Brooks get a run with another team, he's had his time with us and doesn't seem to have ever really kicked on.

Maybe Joey could help him but i don't see it personally.

 

[Demps]

Comparing Brooks to Reynolds?

Are the fans really that out of touch with the game?

Brooks is and has been stagnant at the Tigers for a very long time. Nothing personal, but it's for the best that this partnership goes their separate ways...

Goodnight sweet prince.

 

[Viking Warrior]

Comparing Brooks to Reynolds?

Are the fans really that out of touch with the game?

Brooks is and has been stagnant at the Tigers for a very long time. Nothing personal, but it's for the best that this partnership goes their separate ways...

Goodnight sweet prince.

comparing the two is laughable, having Reynolds in our side would give us better structure and more attacking potency Brooks has always struggled with how to use his second rowers and also rarely gives our centres early clean ball.

There is alot fundamentally wrong with his game he can't run a team he is a running 6 or a number 9 imo get rid of him.

 

[earl]

Now I’m not saying Brooks was perfect but given how week the team was around him these indicate that the problem to me isnt Brooks

I agree but that game against the Dogs summed Brooks up to me. The forwards did their job and he just couldn't come up with the right plays. I just think we need better.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Comparing Brooks to Reynolds?

Are the fans really that out of touch with the game?

Brooks is and has been stagnant at the Tigers for a very long time. Nothing personal, but it's for the best that this partnership goes their separate ways...

Goodnight sweet prince.

It’s the old we’ve invested in it this much we may as well see it through argument. Some times the best actions is to cut your loses regardless of the time already invested.

 

[earl]

We have a team that is not up to par, we had injuries in the later part of the season with two of our spine players out, also I’m not yet convinced AD’s best position is 5/8 and yet our biggest problem is Luke Brooks.
What about our centres, a genuine lack of pace in the backline. A team commitment to defence that couldn’t keep the local ladies bowlo team from scoring. A pack where only 2 or 3 of them could crack more than a 100mtrs a game or our inability to bend or break the line and Luke Brooks is our target.
I hope Hastings kills it in the coming year but the praise and expectations put on him may leave some disappointed.

There are a lot of areas to fix aren't there.

 

[earl]

It’s the old we’ve invested in it this much we may as well see it through argument. Some times the best actions is to cut your loses regardless of the time already invested.

I disagree with this. That may be how some people feel but it's not the way I feel. I feel the issue is more nuanced than a simple Brooks is the problem that needs to be fixed. At the same time I think we need better. I think Brooks can't be the main guy. That doesn't mean he can't play a role in the team.

The whole discussion though to me is a bit stupid because we don't have other options available. Is Madden better than Brooks ? Is AD a half ? AD is injured and Hastings is unproven.

I'm hopeful Hastings comes in and leads the team. Brooks then gets his shot as a running half. I don't care about the numbers on their jersey. AD comes back and there is some competition for spots.