Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[cochise]

Watching the doco, Robbie Farah is amazing.

I feel like he and Brett Kimmorley could be doing so much more for the club. Let em replace those jokers in the box with Madge and give em some hands on role within the playing group and preparation and watch the impact they have.

I'm sure Madge can reach his potential as a coach if he's surrounded by the right people... not the current ones, that is.

Robbie is obviously already heavily involved at training, give him a bit more time in this sort of role but I think I can see him moving into coaching at some point.


He's not in the bubble though, is he? Which is a shame for the team, considering his level of involvement shown in the documentary

No he isn't in the bubble

 

[Telltails]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

The two losses against the Warriors have been the most damaging as both were winnable games and would have us in the 8. None of the bottom teams have achieved much success against the top 6 sides and we have competed pretty well against the teams that are of similar quality.

 

[aturkey]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

 

[TigerWest]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

 

[jirskyr]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

I wonder how Newcastle would have done if they also had Tommy Turbo playing for them, if we are to start a habit of speculative match outcomes?

 

[rihannafan1]

I think the recent arguments here are that you can only play what's in front of you but we haven't done that very convincingly.

 

[Enmoretiger 0]

Madge interview on TripleM

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvNTY2MjgxZjgtMjAwZS00YzlmLTgzNzgtYTQ4NzAwNTU0MjNiL2JjZjg2YTY4LWNlOTctNDdhZi04YzIzLWE0ZGYwMDRjZDgwZS8xOWMzNmY2Zi02OTFiLTQwODctYWQwMy1hNGRmMDA0ZDAyOGIvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M/episode/YzY5NTFjMWEtNjgxMy00MmNlLTkxYjEtYWQ4NTAwNDBjMDQ5?ep=14


Madge mentions the club wants to focus on building around the likes of Blore, Utoikamanu, Laurie, Doueihi, Simpkins, Talau, Tuilagi etc and wants to ensure if they test on the open market that the right player is brought in to complement the young core.

Those who Madge should go, as HG & Roy say, they need to go to the house of mirrors and have good long look at themselves. His response in this interview is exactly how the club should be rebuilt. From good young juniors and we have a crop of outstanding players coming through and starting their careers. I have been following the tigers since I was 10 and I have been to three grand finals for 1 win, still can not re watch 88 or 89, but I strongly belief that we head in the right direction with the right people.
Also, I have a few ex jurno mates and dig a bit deeper into most of these current clowns backgrounds (excluding ex players) and they stick of used car salesmen. It is a morally bankrupt way to make a living. Sorry car salespeople.

I look in the mirror and see a guy that started supporting one leg of this footy team when I was six years younger than you and my oldest memory is of the 69 grand final day, but I don't remember the match at all, rather the celebrations around the TV.

Don't mind HG and Roy, and think the club is placing better people in the expanding positions, just don't believe that Maguire is the coach to take us where we need to go. Unsure about the training and some other off field stuff, plus willing to give him a go, but he has had that already for mine and would need a lot to change my mind.

Maybe it is just conformation bias, but I have long voiced my concerns over McGuire's handling of game day and particularly reports from the sheds of words and/or actions. At times I wrote of such during the live game threads and whilst only a snapshot, the documentary doesn’t allay my concerns. Let's see if there is anything to shed some better light on him tonight.

Mate I reckon I spent the best part of my youth at Leichardt oval, as I am sure others have done. If they win I have a great week, if they lose, well we all know that feeling to well.
I am in a business, my own, that is heavily dependent on long term strategies. future outcomes based on current positions, strong marketing and projecting professionalism and competence to future clients.
With from what I can see with WT, I can see a well worked out strategy in moving forward with the players and staff.
I also know from my experience, is that everyone is better at whet you do than you are, just ask them.
I meet Madge outside of WT and while it was brief, he seemed very focused and level bloke, just the guy to carryout this strategy he has expressed in the recent interview; but hey what would I know? and time will tell.

 

[aturkey]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

I wonder how Newcastle would have done if they also had Tommy Turbo playing for them, if we are to start a habit of speculative match outcomes?

Wow. The lengths you guys will go to defend mediocrity. Just... wow.

And he would have carved up our edges. I watch enough football to know this.

 

[jirskyr]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

I wonder how Newcastle would have done if they also had Tommy Turbo playing for them, if we are to start a habit of speculative match outcomes?

Wow. The lengths you guys will go to defend mediocrity. Just... wow.

And he would have carved up our edges. I watch enough football to know this.

They won the matches you speak of. Fantasy inclusions of footballers who didn't play is pointless. So continue with your pointless argument if you please.

Wow

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

the souths game is the one that will bite us, we had that game won until the dying seconds
if we had won that then 2 out of last 3 would be enough to make 8

 

[TillLindemann]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

I wonder how Newcastle would have done if they also had Tommy Turbo playing for them, if we are to start a habit of speculative match outcomes?

Wow. The lengths you guys will go to defend mediocrity. Just... wow.

And he would have carved up our edges. I watch enough football to know this.

They won the matches you speak of. Fantasy inclusions of footballers who didn't play is pointless. So please with your pointless argument if you please.

Wow

Exactly, and you could just as easily say if Daine Laurie wasn't injured we hypothetically could have put an extra 20 on the Dogs and Cowboys, and won against the Warriors.

 

[TrueTiger]

the souths game is the one that will bite us, we had that game won until the dying seconds
if we had won that then 2 out of last 3 would be enough to make 8

I have to say mate,that Souths game was a ripper and we all thought the improvement in the team was going to pave the way for much better performances as we went along in the season.....gee most of us were wrong,however,I think the memorial games were the ones that most impacted our journey to finals...I was actually thinking to myself "what a disgraceful football team I support and love wholeheartedly"...those 2 games were to show the heart and soul of this club and to lose them in the manner in which the boys played said to me that we DONT DESERVE to play finals footy....

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

the souths game is the one that will bite us, we had that game won until the dying seconds
if we had won that then 2 out of last 3 would be enough to make 8

I have to say mate,that Souths game was a ripper and we all thought the improvement in the team was going to pave the way for much better performances as we went along in the season.....gee most of us were wrong,however,I think the memorial games were the ones that most impacted our journey to finals...I was actually thinking to myself "what a disgraceful football team I support and love wholeheartedly"...those 2 games were to show the heart and soul of this club and to lose them in the manner in which the boys played said to me that we DONT DESERVE to play finals footy....

exactly, it would be nice to make it this year but clearly top 6 and the rest
we could finish 12th yet still be able.to beat or have beaten Newcastle and Canberra and Gold Coast etc at the end of the day we would be making up the numbers but hope we can still get there.
watching that souths game I was sure Burgess had dropped that ball and the good old 2 point field goal ... damn

 

[aturkey]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

I wonder how Newcastle would have done if they also had Tommy Turbo playing for them, if we are to start a habit of speculative match outcomes?

Wow. The lengths you guys will go to defend mediocrity. Just... wow.

And he would have carved up our edges. I watch enough football to know this.

They won the matches you speak of. Fantasy inclusions of footballers who didn't play is pointless. So please with your pointless argument if you please.

Wow

I'm comparing full strength team v full strength team. This is not fantasy or pointless. Injuries do matter.

 

[aturkey]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

I wonder how Newcastle would have done if they also had Tommy Turbo playing for them, if we are to start a habit of speculative match outcomes?

Wow. The lengths you guys will go to defend mediocrity. Just... wow.

And he would have carved up our edges. I watch enough football to know this.

They won the matches you speak of. Fantasy inclusions of footballers who didn't play is pointless. So please with your pointless argument if you please.

Wow

Exactly, and you could just as easily say if Daine Laurie wasn't injured we hypothetically could have put an extra 20 on the Dogs and Cowboys, and won against the Warriors.

Yes you could. You are now understanding my point lol

Injuries do matter. They're not pointless. The fact that losing 1 player made us struggle so bad against the Cows and Dogs is a worry.

Imagine if the Warriors were full strength. Geez, we were lucky that night that they weren't.

 

[jirskyr]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

We are finishing the year strong because we have had a soft draw. Let’s see how we go over the next two weeks, especially the Penrith game. I think the media releases may drop off if we drop the next two games

Right? Some fans on here come across like they don't realise that we play well against teams below us or injured and we stink against good opposition. "Finishing well" means nothing if we don't put at least 30 on the dogs and beat the Sharks and Penrith. Other than that, it's the same old news.

We beat both Drags and Knights, who were above us and still are?

Do you consider the Dragons good opposition?

The Knights were missing key players both games we played them. If they had Ponga, we lose both times.

They were both above us, what else can we do?

Re Ponga missing, you don't know what would of happened if he played, because he didn't.

I wonder how Newcastle would have done if they also had Tommy Turbo playing for them, if we are to start a habit of speculative match outcomes?

Wow. The lengths you guys will go to defend mediocrity. Just... wow.

And he would have carved up our edges. I watch enough football to know this.

They won the matches you speak of. Fantasy inclusions of footballers who didn't play is pointless. So please with your pointless argument if you please.

Wow

I'm comparing full strength team v full strength team. This is not fantasy or pointless. Injuries do matter.

Cool, let me know the next time a full-strength Tigers play a full-strength Knights, and we can revisit the topic. Tigers have lost Laurie for the year, so we won't be able to make any more full-strength comparisons for our team.

 

[twentyforty]

Looks like the “sack Madge group” are ramping up their campaign, which means the window is closing. That’s good news for Madge.

 

[tony soprano]

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/west-tigers-coach-michael-maguire-19-08-21/id1536354819?i=1000532464602

Thanks Lauren

 

[Krammy]

the souths game is the one that will bite us, we had that game won until the dying seconds
if we had won that then 2 out of last 3 would be enough to make 8

I have to say mate,that Souths game was a ripper and we all thought the improvement in the team was going to pave the way for much better performances as we went along in the season.....gee most of us were wrong,however,I think the memorial games were the ones that most impacted our journey to finals...I was actually thinking to myself "what a disgraceful football team I support and love wholeheartedly"...those 2 games were to show the heart and soul of this club and to lose them in the manner in which the boys played said to me that we DONT DESERVE to play finals footy....

Yeh, the memorial games were an embarrassment. However, 2 wins from last 2 starts has given us something to play for. Who knows, but the next 3 games will be hugely telling in a number of ways.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

the souths game is the one that will bite us, we had that game won until the dying seconds
if we had won that then 2 out of last 3 would be enough to make 8

Funny could say it about alot of games

If we turned up in the 1st half against Cowboys
If we didn’t switch off against the Warriors both games (we had both in the bag)

Souths if only