Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[tigerballs]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

I listened to it, too but I didn't hear the bit where he said he offered those amounts to those players. Nor did I hear him making any excuses for not landing them.

 

[rihannafan1]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

 

[851]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

 

[TrueTiger]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

Dont know what your asking ...I think Madge is doing his best with what he has and the young guys are developing well ...Im prepared to be patient and let Madge see out his tenure...even though we havent got the wins we needed at times,the young squad has to learn the NRL system....

 

[851]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

I listened to it, too but I didn't hear the bit where he said he offered those amounts to those players. Nor did I hear him making any excuses for not landing them.

Of course he never mentioned figures, and he is hardly going to say I failed to sign decent players, not even he is that stupid

 

[TrueTiger]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

 

[rihannafan1]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

Dont know what your asking ...I think Madge is doing his best with what he has and the young guys are developing well ...Im prepared to be patient and let Madge see out his tenure...even though we havent got the wins we needed at times,the young squad has to learn the NRL system....

You asked 851 if he would consider he was being impatient and a bit over the top and I asked you if you think he's being that way?

 

[TrueTiger]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

Dont know what your asking ...I think Madge is doing his best with what he has and the young guys are developing well ...Im prepared to be patient and let Madge see out his tenure...even though we havent got the wins we needed at times,the young squad has to learn the NRL system....

You asked 851 if he would consider he was being impatient and a bit over the top and I asked you if you think he's being that way?

He is aloud his opinion,we all are,but does 851 have evidence that Madge cant attract players or does he know what plans the club has while we wait for Sheens,Hartigan and co to plan who or what we require....As far as I know MADGE has input to ret/rec but Hartigan is the one for that dept apparently...

 

[851]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

 

[851]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

Dont know what your asking ...I think Madge is doing his best with what he has and the young guys are developing well ...Im prepared to be patient and let Madge see out his tenure...even though we havent got the wins we needed at times,the young squad has to learn the NRL system....

You asked 851 if he would consider he was being impatient and a bit over the top and I asked you if you think he's being that way?

He is aloud his opinion,we all are,but does 851 have evidence that Madge cant attract players or does he know what plans the club has while we wait for Sheens,Hartigan and co to plan who or what we require....As far as I know MADGE has input to ret/rec but Hartigan is the one for that dept apparently...

I have seen interviews where players say they have heard the stories, he lost the sheds at Souths with the better players, hence he was punted, his style is outdated and players talk

 

[BAGNF05]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

 

[Geo]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

Doueihi knock back the Rorters..

 

[TYGA]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

Dont know what your asking ...I think Madge is doing his best with what he has and the young guys are developing well ...Im prepared to be patient and let Madge see out his tenure...even though we havent got the wins we needed at times,the young squad has to learn the NRL system....

You asked 851 if he would consider he was being impatient and a bit over the top and I asked you if you think he's being that way?

He is aloud his opinion,we all are,but does 851 have evidence that Madge cant attract players or does he know what plans the club has while we wait for Sheens,Hartigan and co to plan who or what we require....As far as I know MADGE has input to ret/rec but Hartigan is the one for that dept apparently...

I have seen interviews where players say they have heard the stories, he lost the sheds at Souths with the better players, hence he was punted, his style is outdated and players talk

Souths fell apart after they won a title and players weren’t prepared to work as hard. Sam Burgess went to England and a host of players moved on including Ben Teo who was their best forward in their finals run. His time had run out there but only after multiple years challenging for a premiership and delivering one. I know people at Souths Juniors they love him. Same as Sheens with us great coach but time to go.

I said from the start of the year we are a bottom 2 side on paper and there’s no sugar coating it. He has them playing at their ability and the young brigade really improving.

It’s not all doom and gloom some sort of reality is needed.

 

[jirskyr]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

Dont know what your asking ...I think Madge is doing his best with what he has and the young guys are developing well ...Im prepared to be patient and let Madge see out his tenure...even though we havent got the wins we needed at times,the young squad has to learn the NRL system....

You asked 851 if he would consider he was being impatient and a bit over the top and I asked you if you think he's being that way?

He is aloud his opinion,we all are,but does 851 have evidence that Madge cant attract players or does he know what plans the club has while we wait for Sheens,Hartigan and co to plan who or what we require....As far as I know MADGE has input to ret/rec but Hartigan is the one for that dept apparently...

I have seen interviews where players say they have heard the stories, he lost the sheds at Souths with the better players, hence he was punted, his style is outdated and players talk

That's only speculation though, nobody has ever said that is true, about losing the sheds. You can't be realistically judging people on rumours.

 

[Spartan117]

Madge interview on TripleM

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvNTY2MjgxZjgtMjAwZS00YzlmLTgzNzgtYTQ4NzAwNTU0MjNiL2JjZjg2YTY4LWNlOTctNDdhZi04YzIzLWE0ZGYwMDRjZDgwZS8xOWMzNmY2Zi02OTFiLTQwODctYWQwMy1hNGRmMDA0ZDAyOGIvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M/episode/YzY5NTFjMWEtNjgxMy00MmNlLTkxYjEtYWQ4NTAwNDBjMDQ5?ep=14

 

[twentyforty]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

Would you consider it that?

Dont know what your asking ...I think Madge is doing his best with what he has and the young guys are developing well ...Im prepared to be patient and let Madge see out his tenure...even though we havent got the wins we needed at times,the young squad has to learn the NRL system....

You asked 851 if he would consider he was being impatient and a bit over the top and I asked you if you think he's being that way?

He is aloud his opinion,we all are,but does 851 have evidence that Madge cant attract players or does he know what plans the club has while we wait for Sheens,Hartigan and co to plan who or what we require....As far as I know MADGE has input to ret/rec but Hartigan is the one for that dept apparently...

I have seen interviews where players say they have heard the stories, he lost the sheds at Souths with the better players, hence he was punted, his style is outdated and players talk

That's only speculation though, nobody has ever said that is true, about losing the sheds. You can't be realistically judging people on rumours.

Good advice jirskyr.
“Whenever two people meet, there are really six people present. There is each man as he sees himself, each man as the other person sees him, and each man as he really is.” ― William James

 

[TigerSJ]

Just on the docco.... In that Triple M interview Madge clearly confirmed what many here have been saying, he said that we are seeing only part of what goes on and specifically what Fox want to focus on- there is a lot more happening besides this.

 

[getagrip]

You would, but obviously the club doesn’t, do you seriously believe junior coaches will attract quality where Madge couldn’t? Do you seriously believe the players are performing as FG players?

Yes I do, Ciraldo and Morris would in my opinion attract players that Madge can't, and the performance of players is again on Madge, he won't drop the non performers, so you just strengthened my argument to punt him

Before blowing wind out of a blowhole, this is a good listen to what Madge and the recruitment team are heading the club into?


https://www.facebook.com/418841445318442/posts/1071051320097448/?d=n

Classy mate, real classy, I listened to that, he made some valid points, but in the end he lied, he said he had no money for players, yet he was willing to pay Latrell over a million, JAC $600+, TPJ $700, Finucane $600+, there are more examples.
He is just making excuses for missing out on players, the salary cap is not why he didn't land those players, if he thinks that, he needs punting today because he is delusional, which I think he may be.
If he was any good he would have the players aiming up each week, there have been far to many games this year the players never turned up, that is on the coach, 12 or 14 players all don't have an off day the same time about 5 times this year.
His coaching style, or lack of has bugger all players buying in, now you are saying we move on 12 players in this one off season to appease an out of touch coach, who is going to replace them, Madge couldn't attract a fly to to a turd in regards to top line players

851...if Madge turns things around within his tenure and we have a far better culture and we make the finals WITH what we have atm....would you consider that you have been impatient and a bit over the top with your summation of Madge .....

How long do you wait, why can't he attract good players, he has a reputation, rightly or wrongly that is where we are, we need to buy some good players to mix with the young players to get anywhere, and that seems highly unlikely whilst he is coach

AD ,ken M are good players....lets see what happens next year...

I agree they are good players, but were not highly sought after, every time another club enters the market for a player we want, we miss out, we can't keep going like that.

I’m pretty doom and gloom about recruitment but I think if we finish the year strong, there are some green shoots starting to appear in AD, DL, Stef, Blore, Simpkin, Tuilagi. Let’s hope a couple of senior leaders aren’t too far away, I think we just need hard men, not superstars. I think we would be more of an attractive proposition now than we were this time last year.

I hope they are not the green shoots that Gladys talks about.

 

[TrueTiger]

Madge interview on TripleM

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvNTY2MjgxZjgtMjAwZS00YzlmLTgzNzgtYTQ4NzAwNTU0MjNiL2JjZjg2YTY4LWNlOTctNDdhZi04YzIzLWE0ZGYwMDRjZDgwZS8xOWMzNmY2Zi02OTFiLTQwODctYWQwMy1hNGRmMDA0ZDAyOGIvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M/episode/YzY5NTFjMWEtNjgxMy00MmNlLTkxYjEtYWQ4NTAwNDBjMDQ5?ep=14

The big thing I found with this interview was how level headed Madge is and how positive he is about the club...he also spoke honestly and openly about purchasing players and the cap....
The best part was how he speaks highly of the players and is determined that this group of young players will develop into NRL superstars....
And thats what we all want,young guys developing and becoming a real competition threat....it starts from within....great interview...

 

[full80]

Madge interview on TripleM

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvNTY2MjgxZjgtMjAwZS00YzlmLTgzNzgtYTQ4NzAwNTU0MjNiL2JjZjg2YTY4LWNlOTctNDdhZi04YzIzLWE0ZGYwMDRjZDgwZS8xOWMzNmY2Zi02OTFiLTQwODctYWQwMy1hNGRmMDA0ZDAyOGIvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M/episode/YzY5NTFjMWEtNjgxMy00MmNlLTkxYjEtYWQ4NTAwNDBjMDQ5?ep=14

The big thing I found with this interview was how level headed Madge is and how positive he is about the club...he also spoke honestly and openly about purchasing players and the cap....
The best part was how he speaks highly of the players and is determined that this group of young players will develop into NRL superstars....
And thats what we all want,young guys developing and becoming a real competition threat....it starts from within....great interview...

It was a great interview, and very fair considering the hammering the club has received recently, Also interesting to hear they agreed to the doco, cos they are proud of what they are building and want people to know about it - so some 'branding', that might go against the perception that the club stands for nothing. Whether or not its successful, who knows. Also to find out that the players have their own groups, in which they discuss the team etc (which we don't see).

I thought he sounded very impressive.