Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[851]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

 

[Geo]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

The next coach will have them queuing up..

 

[851]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

The next coach will have them queuing up..

He will have more wanting in than Madge currently has

 

[tony soprano]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

We have to take our time until juniors are ready to to step up

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

The next coach will have them queuing up..

Has the Call Centre been established to field all the enquiries from players wanting to play for Maguire?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Entered in wrong thread

 

[avocadoontoast]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

The next coach will have them queuing up..

Has the Call Centre been established to field all the enquiries from players wanting to play for Maguire?

It would explain why Vodafone is currently down in my area - the network couldn't handle the traffic.

 

[mike]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

 

[KingRobbie]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

Believe whatever you want mate, that’s on you.

 

[851]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

And you have no proof to prove otherwise, but outside looking in with what has transpired the last 18 months, I know who I believe

 

[Demps]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

Believe whatever you want mate, that’s on you.

Neville Costigan told me once he thinks Jamie Soward is a jerk.... can't actually use the word he said cos it's offensive.

Isaac De Gois told me he hates Wayne Bennet.

Guys are pretty open.
I believe ya.

 

[Geo]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

Believe whatever you want mate, that’s on you.

Neville Costigan told me once he thinks Jamie Soward is a jerk.... can't actually use the word he said cos it's offensive.

Isaac De Gois told me he hates Wayne Bennet.

Guys are pretty open.
I believe ya.

Again not the point..these guys whoever they are..I couldn't care less if they like the Coach or not..if that is the reason for non-performance as @KingRobbie suggests..it shows they have zero respect for the Wests Tigers Jersey they wear and the supporters they represent.. they should be punted if not ..there is no moving forward with these types no matter who the Coach..

 

[The_Patriot]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

Believe whatever you want mate, that’s on you.

Neville Costigan told me once he thinks Jamie Soward is a jerk.... can't actually use the word he said cos it's offensive.

Isaac De Gois told me he hates Wayne Bennet.

Guys are pretty open.
I believe ya.

Again not the point..these guys whoever they are..I couldn't care less if they like the Coach or not..if that is the reason for non-performance..it shows they have zero respect for the Wests Tigers Jersey they wear and the supporters they represent.. they should be punted if not ..there is no moving forward with these types no matter who the Coach..

Same, sick of these imposters who have no real passion to play for the fans.

 

[Guest]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

Believe whatever you want mate, that’s on you.

Neville Costigan told me once he thinks Jamie Soward is a jerk.... can't actually use the word he said cos it's offensive.

Isaac De Gois told me he hates Wayne Bennet.

Guys are pretty open.
I believe ya.

Again not the point..these guys whoever they are..I couldn't care less if they like the Coach or not..if that is the reason for non-performance..it shows they have zero respect for the Wests Tigers Jersey they wear and the supporters they represent.. they should be punted if not ..there is no moving forward with these types no matter who the Coach..

Correct - it's the lack of accountability and willing to do what is necessary to win that sickens me with the WT playing group.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What life looks like at 80% vaccination rate. Enjoy.



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[GNR4LIFE]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

The next coach will have them queuing up..

He will have more wanting in than Madge currently has

These sorts of comments are the most ridiculous trend atm. Up there with “anything is better than what we have”. You don’t know that. You thought things would be better once JT was sacked. How’d that work out?

 

[Merlot]

things will b better after 80% vac rates/???

 

[tony soprano]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

Pure hearsay, not fact.

Believe whatever you want mate, that’s on you.

Neville Costigan told me once he thinks Jamie Soward is a jerk.... can't actually use the word he said cos it's offensive.

Isaac De Gois told me he hates Wayne Bennet.

Guys are pretty open.
I believe ya.

Again not the point..these guys whoever they are..I couldn't care less if they like the Coach or not..if that is the reason for non-performance..it shows they have zero respect for the Wests Tigers Jersey they wear and the supporters they represent.. they should be punted if not ..there is no moving forward with these types no matter who the Coach..

Correct - it's the lack of accountability and willing to do what is necessary to win that sickens me with the WT playing group.

Agree

Cultural is not there yet. Our blokes look like Jane compared to Melbourne blokes.

Good news is if anyone watched the flegg boys interview on WT website todaythey were speaking about setting the standard at training.

When do you hear our blokes talk about putting extra.

Just have to fill the squad with blokes like those flegg boys not blokes happy to parade as first graders.

Sounds like the club are going bottom up.

 

[hobbo1]

Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

The next coach will have them queuing up..

He will have more wanting in than Madge currently has

These sorts of comments are the most ridiculous trend atm. Up there with “anything is better than what we have”. You don’t know that. You thought things would be better once JT was sacked. How’d that work out?

Imagine Taylorball with the 6 again rule lol

 

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Maguire has lost the sheds which means it’s even more critical he leaves in this day and age.

In the social media age, all the players from the different clubs talk to each other. Our players don’t like Madge, meaning when other players ask about him in the rare possibility we convince someone to join us, the players will tell them and potential deals could be scuppered.

He must go.

Gee..I hope the next guy fairs better with the dressing sheds...Sheens lost the sheds.. Potter lost the Sheds..Taylor never had the sheds... Voldamort burnt down the sheds.. starting to see a pattern here...new sheds..

I agree there is for sure cultural and complacency issues here thanks to being poor for so many years, but doesn't take away from the fact the playing group doesn't play for him, and he must leave imo.

I've heard some terrible things about Maguire's approaches to coaching in recent times which sways my opinion but it should be obvious to all that he has not and will never adapt to the modern game.

He's cooked. Done for. Finished.

The playing group aren’t playing as a team. It’s somebody’s else’s job to stop the try scorer improving the position as an example. It’s attitude and that’s all on the players

It's honestly conflicting as it feels quite similar to Jason Taylor's final months with us and I genuinely hope we don't completely mishandle the situation.
On one hand Madge is one of the only persons within the club that I see with any passion and motivation. Also, his vision for the club is easily perceivable. However, on the other hand there's just something terribly amiss and we look too impassive as a playing group.

It's crazy that we're even having these types of conversations again and there still appears to be little accountability from upper management.
The fact we're not in the position to consistently challenge the competition after a decade, I totally put down to them.
(I don't like saying it about our players) but the soft player mentality, poor player development, the coaches totally out of their depth, the recruitment officer's inability to lure prospective players and bad club perception is due to years of poor judgement and decision making... And a poor organisational culture.
It's a little sad as I still feel the same way I did 4 years ago, that we need to look no further at the whole structure of the club to see where all our problems arise.
For me it's them who've botched everything that is wrong with the club and it's the supporter base that bears the brunt of it.

One thing I will say is that is evident through some of his actions, is that he's clearly trying to compensate for the lack of positive leadership in the team. So the fact he's the only one currently copping it leads me to believe he is also trying to make up for poor governance leadership.

I’ve seen it number of times and not just with this footy club. Hang out a little longer until the boss is removed and we can go back to our slack ways. Well that’s not going to work this time. The Tigers are slowly but surely removing the dead wood and the bad influencers from the playing group. Madge is here to stay. The crap attitude of the players is what has to change and go.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of the playing group is off him.

So unless you think there's going to be astronomical roster turnover, he's a dead man walking because we will not succeed under him. Not to mention his coaching methods are completely outdated.

Players have a lot to answer for but I can't see him here beyond his current contract.

Key question for me is which players?
If Deouhi, Laurie, Ute, Blore, Tuilagi, Simpkins are off him well that's somethingzero but if they are still behind him (which i assume they are) then play on.

I don't know each of their thoughts on him player by player, but most of the squad want him out.

And your source for the players wanting him out is.??
Dont know who is telling crap..but apparently the young guys in our squad and there is quite a few who like Madge and have done well under his coaching...
so you dont know each players thoughts on him but most want him out...why do they tell you and not Pascoe ,Lee or the board if they dissaprove so much...

Don't need to reveal sources mate, just know the playing group want him gone.

Can choose to believe me or not, it's fine by me.

Don’t want your sources, I want the players names who want him gone.

My source is current NRL players.

Do you really think I'm going to reveal that on a public forum? Just know that a majority of them want him out. Can't sack 28 players, can sack one coach.

He's gone after 2022, if not earlier.

Not asking for your source or are you saying the majority of the players have personally told you they are unhappy with him?

I'm saying that a handful of current NRL players have personally told me that the Tigers playing group want Michael Maguire out.

That is all.

What they allegedly want and what will actually happen are two different things completely. So let's say your right, who do they want to coach them since they're so picky about their current plight?

Never said they were Tigers players that told me.

As I said before, it's the social media age; everyone talks.

Just unsure of how the situation can remain tenable with him coaching with this being the case.

So it’s not even Wests Tigers NRL players that are giving you the scoop, that’s just laughable. Wouldn’t happen to be disgruntled NRL players that didn’t get the retirement package they wanted to get here by any chance? It’s OK, no need to answer that one.

You can live in the illusion that it’s disgruntled players telling me this out of spite, that’s completely up to you. Almost every player talks to players from other clubs, that’s the way it is now.

The Tigers players told them this, I know this as fact. You actually think I want to hear this stuff? I’m as annoyed at the situation as anyone but it’s just the truth.

NRL players are also prone to talking a lot of crap. The hierarchy at WT have made it pretty clear that Madge is staying. So either the players get with the program or find another club to play at.

And who are we getting to fill our 30 spots, Madge can't attract diddly squat

The next coach will have them queuing up..

He will have more wanting in than Madge currently has

These sorts of comments are the most ridiculous trend atm. Up there with “anything is better than what we have”. You don’t know that. You thought things would be better once JT was sacked. How’d that work out?

You are still the JT fan boy I see, he has shown his ability as a coach, he even got demoted from assistant coach since he was sacked here.
Cleary would have worked if Nathan came onboard, and your opinion is not worth more than anyone else’s, so stop taking pot shots mate