Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[Telltails]

Just on Cameron Ciraldo:

In 2017, Ciraldo was promoted to assistant coach of Penrith's NRL team to work under head coach Anthony Griffin.

In August 2018, Ciraldo was promoted to caretaker coach following Griffin's sacking as head coach.
Ciraldo guided Penrith to a 5th place finish and the club qualified for the finals. In week one, Penrith defeated New Zealand to set up an elimination final against Cronulla.
Cronulla went on to win the match 21-20.

They were running 4th when Griffin was punted in August - I'd say Griffin did most of the guiding. Little did he know out fearless leader at the time was plotting his demise.

 

[innsaneink]

"Wests Tigers??? I'd rather.......... "

 

[Geo]

Chammas said it will cost $750K to dump Maguire this is contrary to Chammas saying Maguire has a clause to be punted...

 

[Demps]

Ciraldos job if he wants it eh...
But he doesn't want it

People only assume that because he said he won’t comment at the moment which in my eyes could prove the opposite. Review wouldn’t have taken this long otherwise ?

3rd hand info...

Well see.
Keep the punters happy if we get him over Flanno though.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If Madge does get punted, do you think he will get a job elsewhere?

If no-one else would take him, should we keep him?

Hahah good luck sacking him as head coach but offering him to stay on somewhere else. Not in a million years

Sorry if not clear but not with us, another head coaching job elsewhere.

Being honest his NZ test results aren't exactly crash hot either.

I was unfortunate enough to watch the NZ and AUs game in Wollongong live. The ground is beautiful by the ocean, the spectators and entertainment were great. The main fixture was garbage; Joey Manu, Brandon Smith and Benji were outstanding. What sucked was the boring footy played by NZ.

 

[Demps]

If Madge does get punted, do you think he will get a job elsewhere?

If no-one else would take him, should we keep him?

Hahah good luck sacking him as head coach but offering him to stay on somewhere else. Not in a million years

Sorry if not clear but not with us, another head coaching job elsewhere.

Being honest his NZ test results aren't exactly crash hot either.

I was unfortunate enough to watch the NZ and AUs game in Wollongong live. The ground is beautiful by the ocean, the spectators and entertainment were great. The main fixture was garbage; Joey Manu, Brandon Williams and Benji were outstanding. What sucked was the boring footy played by NZ.

Oh well, sounds like the cards are falling now...

See ya Madge.

 

[Demps]

Gus Gould be like....


 

[TillLindemann]

If Madge does get punted, do you think he will get a job elsewhere?

If no-one else would take him, should we keep him?

Hahah good luck sacking him as head coach but offering him to stay on somewhere else. Not in a million years

Sorry if not clear but not with us, another head coaching job elsewhere.

Being honest his NZ test results aren't exactly crash hot either.

Don't know what more you could expect from his NZ coaching. He is infinitely better than his predecessor who got beaten by both Tonga and Fiji. They have beaten Australia under Madge.

 

[Telltails]

"Fletcher also said assistant coach Cameron Ciraldo, who remains one of the hottest head coaching candidates in the sport, would be sticking around.

"Cameron comes up every time there's a vacancy or there looks like being a vacancy ... I feel very confident he'll stay next year.

"He's only a young man, I don't think he'll be rushing into a job that's got any risk with it. The future's in his hands, if he's patient he can stay and there might be a better job come up.

Ha ha - our head coach job not considered a better one than where he is at..

 

[WT2K]

Chammas said it will cost $750K to dump Maguire this is contrary to Chammas saying Maguire has a clause to be punted...

DB got the details wrong from earlier in the year it seems 😬

 

[GNR4LIFE]

"Fletcher also said assistant coach Cameron Ciraldo, who remains one of the hottest head coaching candidates in the sport, would be sticking around.

"Cameron comes up every time there's a vacancy or there looks like being a vacancy ... I feel very confident he'll stay next year.

"He's only a young man, I don't think he'll be rushing into a job that's got any risk with it. The future's in his hands, if he's patient he can stay and there might be a better job come up.

Ha ha - our head coach job not considered a better one than where he is at..

It definitely isn’t

 

[frullens]

Ciraldos job if he wants it eh...
But he doesn't want it

Have you asked him?

Cilrado works with cleary......
Imagine if this is part of their big scheme

Give tigers impression he wants to come, so board sack madge. Once sacked, Cilrado and cleary blow kisses at tigers and sing tigers are w**kers.

Ahhh hhha haa

Cleary tigers arch villain

 

[hobbo1]

Does the rules actually stipulate that an NRL team have a coach ?
I’d just let the players coach themselves.

 

[Telltails]

"Fletcher also said assistant coach Cameron Ciraldo, who remains one of the hottest head coaching candidates in the sport, would be sticking around.

"Cameron comes up every time there's a vacancy or there looks like being a vacancy ... I feel very confident he'll stay next year.

"He's only a young man, I don't think he'll be rushing into a job that's got any risk with it. The future's in his hands, if he's patient he can stay and there might be a better job come up.

Ha ha - our head coach job not considered a better one than where he is at..

Be like going from the penthouse to the shit house.

Any body else want the keys? Line up...

 

[The_Patriot]

If Madge does get punted, do you think he will get a job elsewhere?

If no-one else would take him, should we keep him?

Fair point and one we could also use for half our playing squad.

 

[coivtny]

Does the rules actually stipulate that an NRL team have a coach ?
I’d just let the players coach themselves.

Not a bad idea. Put Nofo in charge of buying the beers after a winning game. That woudn't cost much.

 

[851]

It has been said here that Ciraldo has overseen the best defensive team in the NRL but nobody knows how he would go with inferior players. As an example, look at the Penrith Parramatta final and you wouldn't see better defence than either side put up. Now, look at the assistants at those clubs and Ciraldo did really well but Parra had David Kidwell, who was a past defence coach at the Tigers and he did equally well in that game.
BUT Kidwell was a disaster as defence coach at the Wests Tigers. My point is that any reasonable coach can do well if he has a quality roster and it is the roster that needs improving under any future or present coach before we will have any success.

Yeah very good point.
Signing Ciraldo would be an enormous risk.

Every option is a large risk.

True but the green coaches are an unacceptable risk

Believe me I have thought that for a long time.

Taking on a Ciraldo or ESL coach is a risk because their experience in NRL as a head coach, with this squad is completely unknown.

Retaining Madge is a huge risk because his experience as a head coach of the Wests Tigers, with this squad is completely known.

One risk is unknown, the other is known. Past performance is the best indicator of future performances. Which do you hitch your wagon to?

That is not how risk assessment works.

Mate, Im not going to engage with you but I do risk assessment every day for a living. 100% risk assessment in based on known risks, not imagined risks.

I do them as well, and you are right

Sorry but risk assessment conducted on stuff that is already known is half arsed. I say this because a known known - in other words facts, (in this case, the historical tenure and future educated predictions related to Madges coaching), can be managed and are not fundamentally risks. Other factors must be considered relating to uncertainty of impacts and consequences, (in this case, a rookie coach) which is what supplies your classic risk. Mitigation strategies can be formed through investigative research, benchmarking etc but the probabilities of failure are certainly higher.

I work in mining where known risks are still assessed, the chair rates the risk and the others on the team give their assessment, eventually a rating is applied. Madge is the same, a known risk, but a failing risk, and in my business, a change is needed

 

[Snake]

"Fletcher also said assistant coach Cameron Ciraldo, who remains one of the hottest head coaching candidates in the sport, would be sticking around.

"Cameron comes up every time there's a vacancy or there looks like being a vacancy ... I feel very confident he'll stay next year.

"He's only a young man, I don't think he'll be rushing into a job that's got any risk with it. The future's in his hands, if he's patient he can stay and there might be a better job come up.

Ha ha - our head coach job not considered a better one than where he is at..

Every NRL coaching job is a risk … your better of starting at a club like the Tigers .. go Brisbane/ Parra / Dogs the pressure is intense from the get go ! At the Tigers the next coach will have a large roster of talented kids , some experienced and decent players the facilities that no one will match in the medium term ,vacant spots in the roster and a 1.5 million to spend straight of the bat .. the Tigers are a pretty good first up gig IMO!

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It's a Teams meeting can you imagine Maguire speaking to the Board -

Sorry we've got a disconnect, can't get through

 

[hobbo1]


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