Magpies in NSW Cup 2017
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@scruffy1 said:
No It isn't - There are many steps between "juniors" and First Grade.
We are losing bugger all.
Penrith cover a bigger area than us, And only have one feeder team / path….
Have a look at the South Sydney reserve grade side - It has no one in it.
One of the Stronger clubs in the NRL, With zero effort given to second tier.
At the end of the day, We get no compensation for junior development as it is, and at the end of the road, There's only room for 25 of them... Why double the efforts in second tier?
A second (second tier) Coach, A second (Second tier) set of staff, A second (Second tier) Set of (Paid) 20+ Players.... Is nothing but a waste of money.
That said, If Wests have another $500k + to waste per year - Leave them to it....
It's not like that extra $500k (Every year) could buy us things like a top tier coach, be spent on upgrading facilities (So we can attract a decent player or 2) or anything useful like that....
- We'll just spend it on a 2nd reserve grade side that we don't need.
You do know that we can only bring up so many guys from Reserve grade to NRL every year - Don't you.... It's limited, We could have 4 reserve grade sides - The same 6-10 will only ever be the ones pulled from them.
Alf_Duguid
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Throw away line from Leaping Leo, wouldn't read anything into it. There has been zero indication from Wests Tigers or the NSWRL that they are looking at changes to reserve grade for next year
If anything, I'd say Leo is just trying to talk up their prospects in the hope of getting Liverpool and Campbelltown to get into a bidding war.
If anything, I'd say Leo is just trying to talk up their prospects in the hope of getting Liverpool and Campbelltown to get into a bidding war.
Young forwards need a stage to mature on, the more options the club has to keep them attached the better, up to 40 players go thru the 20's each year and in 20's there's very little between the starters each week, the bench and those that get sent out to Wests. I could name kids who played Shield(not massey) one week and were very average and then looked like world beaters playing 20's or even in junior national sides a few weeks later. Kids coming out of 20's want to play cup and leave when they cant as a result, if Wests are prepared to pay the bills then win win for FG, players are happy, club has more choice with its second tier, the rest on NSWRL contracts.
southerntiger
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@scruffy1 said:
Most clubs don't see the need for a dedicated State Cup side, but we need two?
Yeh seems right.
Reality is that 90% of our current State Cup side won't play firsts. I certainly don't see any value in supporting players who can't even make that side.
innsaneink
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@southerntiger said:
Surely we need a team for 20s players who arent quite ready for NRL, but are ready to mature somewhere at another level higher…one teams enough imo
happy_tiger
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Balmain Magpies feeder team solidarity across the board
The Western Suburbs Magpies club is very much alive as a club and are actually starting to thrive on and off the field. They have an ambition to play in the highest possible competition they can. Wests Tigers can use them as the primary or secondary feeder team or not at all, it's up to them. But why should anyone on here begrudge WSM success and ambition? I think some views on here are drive by spite and jealousy. It's unfortunate Balmain are dying as a club but it doesn't mean Western Suburbs has to.
goldcoast_tiger
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I'm not sure why anyone's getting their nickers knotted,
Wests can enter anywhere they want to, and if they 're accepted, good luck to them.
No ones complaining about Balmain having a team if they can afford it. 0nce again ', it's up to them.
I don't think it's anyone's except Wests business , as to where they play or what they do.
Good luck to them
Wests can enter anywhere they want to, and if they 're accepted, good luck to them.
No ones complaining about Balmain having a team if they can afford it. 0nce again ', it's up to them.
I don't think it's anyone's except Wests business , as to where they play or what they do.
Good luck to them
southerntiger
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@innsaneink said:
I agree with having a State Cup side but not two. I will say less and less are young players held back. It seems to be almost these days if you aren't in the top squad straight out of 20s its is doubtful you will make it at all. The players seem very impatient too. Look at Marion Seve.
I don't really care whats the State Cup side called but I think its a bit silly to call it anything other than Wests Tigers. Surely 16 years later we can accept Balmain and the Magpies are dead.
@Patts said:
It's got nada to do with Balmain. The problem people have is with the club having two teams under its structure playing NSW Cup. If the Maggies want to give NSW Cup a go and are funding it themselves good luck. Personally I think they'll get pumped most weeks but fine. I'd wish them luck. The track record of stand alone teams isn't great though and RMC is designed for teams like them. They'd be better off waiting to see if this reserve grade comp gets off the ground.
happy_tiger
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You'd think they would struggle , especially if they aren't going to be a feeder side for the WT's
Much like they did in their last season when we had Balmain Ryde and they were disregarded as a feeder side
I wish them luck if they want to go ahead and give it a burl
Much like they did in their last season when we had Balmain Ryde and they were disregarded as a feeder side
I wish them luck if they want to go ahead and give it a burl
@goldcoast tiger said:
Anyone who cares about success in the NRL should get very knotted.
Who owns / funds the Magpies: Wests Ashfield
Who Owns / Funds Wests Tigers (75%): Wests Ashfield
Why spend 1/2 a million dollars extra than you have to on the 2nd tier comp - When that money can be better spent on The first grade sde -
If they have 500k / a year extra to waste - get us a top line coach….
goldcoast_tiger
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@batboy said:
As I said earlier, if Wests want to enter a team anywhere , it's up to them, got nothing to do with Balmain, or anyone else for that matter.
What they spend or who they spend it on , will happen whether we like it or not.
I think Wests have done quite a lot this year, for WTs and especially Balmain .
If they want a Wests team in any competition , that's fine by me.
@goldcoast tiger said:
Nobody mentioned Balmain except you - If they want to waste money on a second reserve grade side, Rather than spend that money on the first grade side, They're running in the wrong direction (again)
I know it's their money, And the can do what they want with it - I certainly get that….
But why would anyone want to support the NRL team that they own.... When they're not supporting it as much as they can/could?
In one press release they're saying Wests Tigers is Struggling for money, In the next they're rolling out a second reserve grade side.
I'm not a genius, But surely even they're smarter than that....
If you don't want to answer the question, That's fine... I don't mind. But why spend excess money on a 2nd reserve grade side, When the first grade side they mostly own (Will, more than likely eventually fully own) is broke - has been broke for years - cant afford decent facilities - cant afford decent staff - cant afford decent players....
That won't matter I guess - cos we'll have 2 reserve grade sides....
And 30 extra players that will end up not good for much.
goldcoast_tiger
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@batboy said:
Read the post again .Balmain is mentioned before I did.
As well as that some seem put out that we have two teams in NSW Cup,
(Incl. you)
In the statement it didn't mention who was funding it ,
WA leagues club isnt just made up of WTs supporters.So if others in the club want to be represented in the NSW cup, go for it.
I would imagine that a lot of their members would love to see the Magpies back in a higher level competition.
Ihave no problem with Balmain being there , can't see why some feel threatened by Wests Being there as well.
