Maguire implores side to change

[bbobb]

Let’s face it, our pack has no mongrel in it, compared to the good sides , we hit the ball up slowly and in defence we are content to just grab players. In attack last night we played so much one out hit ups right next to the ruck the titans did not have to move. U can’t win games playing one out football.

Nailed it! I actually think Madge needs to share the mirror viewing. Looks like his game plans are not quite where they should be.

 

[hammertime]

The whole Club needs a psychiatrist..but it has got to want to change..

I'm trying to think of the constant throughout the years. The only thing I come back with is Benji and lawry.

 

[happy_tiger]

Fire up you sad sacks! So your footy team doesn't win enough and you have had enough?

I'm not going to tell you to "get perspective" or "look at the real world issues" because I love my footy and I take it seriously. I won't patronise people.

But what I will say is I don't know why people have these high expectations of the club after 20 years. In other words, why are you sad or dejected now, why have you given up now? Why have you had enough only after 20 years of consistent failure?

If consistent winning was your hope, you really should have checked out of Wests Tigers around 2004, 2009 or ~2014. You've had several lean years there and ample reason to take up fishing or bridge.

My mentality - Tigers suck. Savour every win but don't start the year expecting finals footy. But that doesn't mean don't be optimistic - hope for the best but don't be surprised or upset if we don't play finals, because that's normal for us. Don't worry about other supporters, they are all knobs anyway and they all have their turn at sucking as well.

Be pissed off but don't let it linger - force yourself to get over it in a day or two. Put it behind you and look forward to next week; guaranteed the next win will still be sweet.

Be proud that you keep turning up to support a team that doesn't win. That's why I'm not impressed with Melbourne supporters - what do they know about losing? Their crowds are average despite all the wins, how would they fare with a lean decade or so?

Try and emulate those British fans who follow teams that never win everything, maybe never even play top-flight footy, but they still love and support their club. Those British fans who turn up in the freezing rain to some local ground to watch their team get belted by cashed-up mega-clubs owned by American and Russian and Qatari oligarchs.

Tigers are the West Ham or Newcastle United of the NRL - always participating but never real contenders, with bare cupboards back at the club, except for some raft of trophies won in glory years between the wars or some unique run in the 60s.

Do you really think I need reminding both teams I support suck

 

[BZN]

The whole Club needs a psychiatrist..but it has got to want to change..

After reading @jirskyr post which is 3 after yours @Geo ....I think we may have found the psychiatrist 'us fans' need.

 

[jirskyr]

There's an upside - you could be a Dragqueens fan right now. Bottom-table clash and they get towelled, even though they have 6 current or former Origin players and an England international.

 

[Tigers_Tale]

The club needs to change, not just the team.

I have said it before the club is soft from the Board room down!
You want your footy team to change but the club in general has never changed in 20 yrs . The people running the club need to make the hard decisions .
Many might find this odd but I believe until the club makes the decision to finally settle on a home and play out of one stadium I think nothing will change..this will be the start of the cultural change this club desperately needs !
This loose losing mentality comes from the top make no mistake!

There playing out of one stadium this year, there still 9th.

 

[Guest]

The 1st half was a carbon copy of the Sharks game ........

Next week will be different..
We will get pumped from the start

Ricky will kick the sleeping beast in the balls this week ....we are toast

100% Utah, err I mean Happy...I've been re-watching a lot of old movies lately.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Fire up you sad sacks! So your footy team doesn't win enough and you have had enough?

I'm not going to tell you to "get perspective" or "look at the real world issues" because I love my footy and I take it seriously. I won't patronise people.

But what I will say is I don't know why people have these high expectations of the club after 20 years. In other words, why are you sad or dejected now, why have you given up now? Why have you had enough only after 20 years of consistent failure?

If consistent winning was your hope, you really should have checked out of Wests Tigers around 2004, 2009 or ~2014. You've had several lean years there and ample reason to take up fishing or bridge.

My mentality - Tigers suck. Savour every win but don't start the year expecting finals footy. But that doesn't mean don't be optimistic - hope for the best but don't be surprised or upset if we don't play finals, because that's normal for us. Don't worry about other supporters, they are all knobs anyway and they all have their turn at sucking as well.

Be pissed off but don't let it linger - force yourself to get over it in a day or two. Put it behind you and look forward to next week; guaranteed the next win will still be sweet.

Be proud that you keep turning up to support a team that doesn't win. That's why I'm not impressed with Melbourne supporters - what do they know about losing? Their crowds are average despite all the wins, how would they fare with a lean decade or so?

Try and emulate those British fans who follow teams that never win everything, maybe never even play top-flight footy, but they still love and support their club. Those British fans who turn up in the freezing rain to some local ground to watch their team get belted by cashed-up mega-clubs owned by American and Russian and Qatari oligarchs.

Tigers are the West Ham or Newcastle United of the NRL - always participating but never real contenders, with bare cupboards back at the club, except for some raft of trophies won in glory years between the wars or some unique run in the 60s.

Thanks jirskyr that was an excellent inspirational and motivational post, and a reminder of who we are as Wests Tigers supporters.
However, a supposedly intelligent man once said; “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” And that is what I am doing every time I watch a game.
Others have said; in order to achieve a change in culture, the whole club has to change, but that ignores one critical factor, the fans.
Maybe what this club needs is fans that display the same culture that the team does IE indifference. Do not keep turning up to watch a team that doesn't win. Make the players, coach and board understand that we all have better things to do with our time than watch a rabble run around for 80 minutes, then smile and socialise with their buddies on the opposing team and then go home and collect their pay.
Will I watch the Raiders game?
Yes.
What is the definition of insanity?
Welcome to Wests Tigers

 

[Tcat]

Last 20 years of WT

Rd1-3 Promising start

4-6 Lose to last placed teams

7-16 Fall apart, get a scrappy win here and there

Need to win 7from 9

17-21 win 4 in a row including a genuine Contender

22 - lose to last Placed team

Win next 2 then lose in last round to miss the semis

Ground hog year for a WT supporter.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The 1st half was a carbon copy of the Sharks game ........

Next week will be different..
We will get pumped from the start

Ricky will kick the sleeping beast in the balls this week ....we are toast

100% Utah, err I mean Happy...I've been re-watching a lot of old movies lately.

Willow!! Get me 2

 

[Geo]

The whole Club needs a psychiatrist..but it has got to want to change..

After reading @jirskyr post which is 3 after yours @Geo ....I think we may have found the psychiatrist 'us fans' need.

yep embrace the loser base..only way is up..

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Most of us come from two old clubs that basically died as battler clubs. Are we really surprised this is what came of it? Balmain sucked in the 90's, Wests not as bad but we're still renowned as being a battling club. I was willing to stick it out then, what's another 20 years of failure?

If failure really was going to drive any of us away this forum would have about five members.

 

[TrueTiger]

Most of us come from two old clubs that basically died as battler clubs. Are we really surprised this is what came of it? Balmain sucked in the 90's, Wests not as bad but we're still renowned as being a battling club. I was willing to stick it out then, what's another 20 years of failure?

If failure really was going to drive any of us away this forum would have about five members.

I agree with your post CB....truth is I was a Balmain boy all my life until the merger,now Iam a WTs boy all my life...I know no other team or club I could be more passionate about than this one..I have also gained many a brother and sister through the Maggies, whats to whine about...this club has had a host of poor players,poor coaches,poor CEOs and poor admin staff,somewhere along the line everything will click into place and we will become a club to be reckoned with..
Im not prepared to give up even though the disappointments keep coming,things on and off the field will be very successful soon,its a matter of patiences and hope..
Yes the Titans game was disappointing,but lets give credit where its due,the coach and players were determined and gutsy,good on them,I congratulate them on wanting to win after being winless for over a year..

 

[Hangonaminute]

We used to be a team that played as good as Benji played, If Benji had a good game, we'd have a good game.
And Benji was rocks or diamonds and so was the team.

I think we're becoming that team again but now it's Brooks, Benji has flattened out the peaks n troughs and is more consistent.
If Brooks is on then we go good, if he's not and he's nowhere to be seen then we're hopeless

 

[JD Tiger]

We used to be a team that played as good as Benji played, If Benji had a good game, we'd have a good game.
And Benji was rocks or diamonds and so was the team.

I think we're becoming that team again but now it's Brooks, Benji has flattened out the peaks n troughs and is more consistent.
If Brooks is on then we go good, if he's not and he's nowhere to be seen then we're hopeless

I don't know about that, I don't think Benji is consistent at all.

I certainly hope Madge knows, he's the one charged to fix this rabble.

 

[tiger05premier]

Is Madge starting to wish he never took this job?

Instead of us sacking the coach as per standard we might have one that we want to keep walk out on us

Maybe instead of sacking coaches over the years we should've let go players that never delivered rather than double there contracts in dollars and years

Anyway let's hope Madge not only sees but survives to see the light at the end of the tunnel and turns this club into a power house with the young player's he is bringing into the club ASAP

 

[hsvjones]

Glad he spoke up about it...
We need to be honest with ourselves as a club because this has been going on for way 2 long.
Unfortunately some players are happy to get paid and cruze along until the contract year when they need to perform consistently.

I believe we are heading in the right direction with all this young talent but a few players need to finish up and some smart buying of experienced players to assist.

I hope Madge comes out and makes some changes this week as we really need some big bodies this week as Raiders will smoke us and we really don't need a 50pts lose for our F&A..
I would drop Lawrence, Jennings, Seyfarth, Clark & people won't like this but Joey L as well. When he played for the Raiders he killed it and destroyed teams and he is missing that mongrel. I think a drop out of the team would be a wake up call he needs and also shows the rest that we are serious. Moses stays in team just because he is the captain and can kick goals and generally has great defence.

Anyway just my thoughts.

 

[Newtown]

He's right. This is what this club has been. 20 years of the same crap. As sure as the sun comes up you can bank on our footy team to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory or get beat by a side that everybody thinks should get the spoon. It can't be the coach, we've been through too many of them. Hopefully the young guys that have been recruited are "winners".

Saints got lapped by the winless dogs today, saints have only won 2 games in their last 16, both against the side that beat us last night, Pay made a host of changes, so did Holbrook, and look what happened, meanwhile over at the tigers, nothing changes

Madge has been showing a lot of complacency with his weekly team selections. Maybe he should get out of that complacency.

 

[Russell]

The club needs to change, not just the team.

I have said it before the club is soft from the Board room down!
You want your footy team to change but the club in general has never changed in 20 yrs . The people running the club need to make the hard decisions .
Many might find this odd but I believe until the club makes the decision to finally settle on a home and play out of one stadium I think nothing will change..this will be the start of the cultural change this club desperately needs !
This loose losing mentality comes from the top make no mistake!

I find it odd.

 

[JC99]

Is Madge starting to wish he never took this job?

Instead of us sacking the coach as per standard we might have one that we want to keep walk out on us

Maybe instead of sacking coaches over the years we should've let go players that never delivered rather than double there contracts in dollars and years

Anyway let's hope Madge not only sees but survives to see the light at the end of the tunnel and turns this club into a power house with the young player's he is bringing into the club ASAP

I don’t see him walking out, he’s clearly investing towards the future of the club and he’s passionate about us succeeding, that’s why he gets so upset about performances like last weeks.