Maguire post match comments insanity?

@pawsandclaws1 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465206) said:
@tt-01 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465190) said:
The end of season review won’t paint a good light on Madge but the fact it is being conducted by Pascoe and Hartigan is not ok. Those 2 have just as much to do with the current mess as Madge - if not more. Whoever signs off on the deals such as Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, BJ, Roberts etc has to be accountable to. We talk about changing the culture but when you bring in players like that you get the culture we have. The review needs to be done by an independent and be from top to bottom.

I don't understand the anger directed at Pascoe or Hartigan. Pascoe has our club in the black which in turn allowed more resources for the football dept. **Hartigan has recruited some of the best young talent we have had at the club.** Our U21s were the best. Our junior recruitment for next year looks to be outstanding.

I keep hearing this but ive yet to see a list of his recruits vs Maguires recruits.

For instance who recruited Jake Simpkin.
 
@wt2k said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464758) said:
Got the tap on the shoulder pre game it looks like

If that was the case he should have sprayed them in the PMC.
 
@the_patriot said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465219) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465206) said:
@tt-01 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465190) said:
The end of season review won’t paint a good light on Madge but the fact it is being conducted by Pascoe and Hartigan is not ok. Those 2 have just as much to do with the current mess as Madge - if not more. Whoever signs off on the deals such as Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, BJ, Roberts etc has to be accountable to. We talk about changing the culture but when you bring in players like that you get the culture we have. The review needs to be done by an independent and be from top to bottom.

I don't understand the anger directed at Pascoe or Hartigan. Pascoe has our club in the black which in turn allowed more resources for the football dept. **Hartigan has recruited some of the best young talent we have had at the club.** Our U21s were the best. Our junior recruitment for next year looks to be outstanding.

I keep hearing this but ive yet to see a list of his recruits vs Maguires recruits.

For instance who recruited Jake Simpkin.

I understood Stefano and Laurie are Hartigan recruits. We only have to look at the U21s to see our talent. Next years recruits look to be highly talented as well.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465226) said:
@the_patriot said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465219) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465206) said:
@tt-01 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465190) said:
The end of season review won’t paint a good light on Madge but the fact it is being conducted by Pascoe and Hartigan is not ok. Those 2 have just as much to do with the current mess as Madge - if not more. Whoever signs off on the deals such as Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, BJ, Roberts etc has to be accountable to. We talk about changing the culture but when you bring in players like that you get the culture we have. The review needs to be done by an independent and be from top to bottom.

I don't understand the anger directed at Pascoe or Hartigan. Pascoe has our club in the black which in turn allowed more resources for the football dept. **Hartigan has recruited some of the best young talent we have had at the club.** Our U21s were the best. Our junior recruitment for next year looks to be outstanding.

I keep hearing this but ive yet to see a list of his recruits vs Maguires recruits.

For instance who recruited Jake Simpkin.

I understood Stefano and Laurie are Hartigan recruits. We only have to look at the U21s to see our talent. Next years recruits look to be highly talented as well.


Yes we have some good talent coming through. I just find it inconsistent to put all that credit on Hartigan.

Surely he couldnt have recruited them all with no input from the NRL coach.

If i was a coach who had no ability to recruit my own players id walk.

I really doubt that Hartigan does all the recruiting.
 
@innsaneink said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465127) said:
@wt2019 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464773) said:
@theraptor456 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464738) said:
Probably not the worst of our wide array of issues but Maguire mentioned "We had Daine Laurie, Adam Doueihi, Jimmy Tamou, Luke Garner, James Roberts, there's a number of senior players that add to what we need to do. We've got a number of players that with those names can steer a strong team around”.

Correct me if I’m wrong but James Roberts has been 18th man for at least 2 or 3 of the last 4 weeks and our coach is saying his absence is part of what cost us the match??? Who selects the team?

More early mad Monday madness


Interesting view.. so Tamou, Garner, Roberts, Mybe were missing today. Individually and collectively they were all part of all the disaster games this year . Sorry I have never seen any of them lead the team around on the field although I am sure they are great leaders at training

That's what his supporters say too.
"we had players out... Too many kids in"
It's been happening all year tho.

I like Madge but this can't continue

Yep. If they are going to get rid of him, best do it now and let him sort out his future and at least give us a pre season with our future.

I like Madge, I know members here seem to believe that certain players can always be totally absolved of shambolic performances but there are two constants in the team that have the same deficiencies that they have had for nearly the last decade they have been playing. They should be following Maguire out the door.

I am even willing to be flexible on morals now and say go and get Flanagan just to end this madness. Go and tell a Storm fan they're cheats and they will tell you that they can't hear you complaining from the top of the ladder and the sound of their overstuffed trophy cabinet straining.

The new coach should be given full control to remove any one he doesn't want on the roster too.
 
@the_patriot said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465229) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465226) said:
@the_patriot said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465219) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465206) said:
@tt-01 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465190) said:
The end of season review won’t paint a good light on Madge but the fact it is being conducted by Pascoe and Hartigan is not ok. Those 2 have just as much to do with the current mess as Madge - if not more. Whoever signs off on the deals such as Mbye, Reynolds, Packer, BJ, Roberts etc has to be accountable to. We talk about changing the culture but when you bring in players like that you get the culture we have. The review needs to be done by an independent and be from top to bottom.

I don't understand the anger directed at Pascoe or Hartigan. Pascoe has our club in the black which in turn allowed more resources for the football dept. **Hartigan has recruited some of the best young talent we have had at the club.** Our U21s were the best. Our junior recruitment for next year looks to be outstanding.

I keep hearing this but ive yet to see a list of his recruits vs Maguires recruits.

For instance who recruited Jake Simpkin.

I understood Stefano and Laurie are Hartigan recruits. We only have to look at the U21s to see our talent. Next years recruits look to be highly talented as well.


Yes we have some good talent coming through. I just find it inconsistent to put all that credit on Hartigan.

Surely he couldnt have recruited them all with no input from the NRL coach.

If i was a coach who had no ability to recruit my own players id walk.

I really doubt that Hartigan does all the recruiting.

The Marsden SHS recruits were coached by a man with the surname Hartigan. I suspect he may be related.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465232) said:
@innsaneink said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465127) said:
@wt2019 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464773) said:
@theraptor456 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464738) said:
Probably not the worst of our wide array of issues but Maguire mentioned "We had Daine Laurie, Adam Doueihi, Jimmy Tamou, Luke Garner, James Roberts, there's a number of senior players that add to what we need to do. We've got a number of players that with those names can steer a strong team around”.

Correct me if I’m wrong but James Roberts has been 18th man for at least 2 or 3 of the last 4 weeks and our coach is saying his absence is part of what cost us the match??? Who selects the team?

More early mad Monday madness


Interesting view.. so Tamou, Garner, Roberts, Mybe were missing today. Individually and collectively they were all part of all the disaster games this year . Sorry I have never seen any of them lead the team around on the field although I am sure they are great leaders at training

That's what his supporters say too.
"we had players out... Too many kids in"
It's been happening all year tho.

I like Madge but this can't continue

Yep. If they are going to get rid of him, best do it now and let him sort out his future and at least give us a pre season with our future.

I like Madge, I know members here seem to believe that certain players can always be totally absolved of shambolic performances but there are two constants in the team that have the same deficiencies that they have had for nearly the last decade they have been playing. They should be following Maguire out the door.

I am even willing to be flexible on morals now and say go and get Flanagan just to end this madness. Go and tell a Storm fan they're cheats and they will tell you that they can't hear you complaining from the top of the ladder and the sound of their overstuffed trophy cabinet straining.

The new coach should be given full control to remove any one he doesn't want on the roster too.

Some of the contracted players need moving on just as what happened at the Panthers years ago !
It’s time the club gets down and dirty with the rest of the high flying clubs !
 
What does it matter who recruited who?
Madge isn't a recruitment officer he's a coach.
He could coach the Turbo brothers into being the Leilua brothers.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465246) said:
What does it matter who recruited who?
Madge isn't a recruitment officer he's a coach.
He could coach the Turbo brothers into being the Leilua brothers.

I agree.

My issue is with Hartigan being hailed a god of recruitment.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465246) said:
What does it matter who recruited who?
Madge isn't a recruitment officer he's a coach.
He could coach the Turbo brothers into being the Leilua brothers.

In fact Madge had the choice between coaching Manly or us.
He chose us.
So please no more talk of Madge identifying talent. He chose our roster over Manly's.
Manly must thank their god every time they see us play.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465255) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465246) said:
What does it matter who recruited who?
Madge isn't a recruitment officer he's a coach.
He could coach the Turbo brothers into being the Leilua brothers.

In fact Madge had the choice between coaching Manly or us.
He chose us.
So please no more talk of Madge identifying talent. He chose our roster over Manly's.
Manly must thank their god every time they see us play.

Hasler is 10 times the coach Madge is. Wow, they lucked out.
 
He knows he’s gone.
Dead man walking. He’s been there before and he would remember all the signs of this at South’s and has no doubt seen them in recent times at the Tigers. Geez I hope whoever the next person is can make the changes to improve us.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465255) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465246) said:
What does it matter who recruited who?
Madge isn't a recruitment officer he's a coach.
He could coach the Turbo brothers into being the Leilua brothers.

In fact Madge had the choice between coaching Manly or us.
He chose us.
So please no more talk of Madge identifying talent. He chose our roster over Manly's.
Manly must thank their god every time they see us play.

You should reconsider diagnosing other forummers psychological problems if you are replying to your own posts...
 
@telltails said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465265) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465255) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465246) said:
What does it matter who recruited who?
Madge isn't a recruitment officer he's a coach.
He could coach the Turbo brothers into being the Leilua brothers.

In fact Madge had the choice between coaching Manly or us.
He chose us.
So please no more talk of Madge identifying talent. He chose our roster over Manly's.
Manly must thank their god every time they see us play.

You should reconsider diagnosing other forummers psychological problems if you are replying to your own posts...

Side effect of working alone at home.
I talk to myself.
I make myself laugh.
I'm very amusing.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465267) said:
@telltails said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465265) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465255) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465246) said:
What does it matter who recruited who?
Madge isn't a recruitment officer he's a coach.
He could coach the Turbo brothers into being the Leilua brothers.

In fact Madge had the choice between coaching Manly or us.
He chose us.
So please no more talk of Madge identifying talent. He chose our roster over Manly's.
Manly must thank their god every time they see us play.

You should reconsider diagnosing other forummers psychological problems if you are replying to your own posts...

Side effect of working alone at home.
I talk to myself.
I make myself laugh.
I'm very amusing.

Just having some fun. Don't always agree with you but share the pain
 
@tigerneddyk said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465012) said:
@willow said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464755) said:
I don't think he had really processed what happened out on the field and wasn't thinking clearly...nah, he's done I reckon.

Mate, he has to be,,,, who tells the players to hang off the man with the ball every week? To not pressure the kicker, to run back and sideways and arm grab like Luke Brooks did for the first try today ? The defence is abhorrent,,, I am beyond disgusted with the lame structure and technique that the team employs every week in defence …. Soft does not even begin to describe it …… it is geriatric. Pedestrian rubbish being served up and Madge keeps running the same players out to do the same thing week in week out… they do not improve, ever … it’s as if they are not being coached at all! Madge has to go! Period!

I get the frustration and even dislike of Madge, but suggesting he trots out the same players week after week is utter crap. He's been bagged for too many changes more than once. Have you forgotten the whole eggshells saga? Either he makes changes and gets flogged or he sticks solid and gets flogged. Must be fun being a coach of this club.
 
@rustycage said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465272) said:
@tigerneddyk said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465012) said:
@willow said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464755) said:
I don't think he had really processed what happened out on the field and wasn't thinking clearly...nah, he's done I reckon.

Mate, he has to be,,,, who tells the players to hang off the man with the ball every week? To not pressure the kicker, to run back and sideways and arm grab like Luke Brooks did for the first try today ? The defence is abhorrent,,, I am beyond disgusted with the lame structure and technique that the team employs every week in defence …. Soft does not even begin to describe it …… it is geriatric. Pedestrian rubbish being served up and Madge keeps running the same players out to do the same thing week in week out… they do not improve, ever … it’s as if they are not being coached at all! Madge has to go! Period!

I get the frustration and even dislike of Madge, but suggesting he trots out the same players week after week is utter crap. He's been bagged for too many changes more than once. Have you forgotten the whole eggshells saga? Either he makes changes and gets flogged or he sticks solid and gets flogged. Must be fun being a coach of this club.


There is always only 1 winner and 15 losers and the longer you go from not winning the comp the closer you get to being sacked.When it comes down to it no matter how many GFs you make and how many playoffs you make it means very little when it comes to not winning the whole thing.
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465248) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465232) said:
@innsaneink said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1465127) said:
@wt2019 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464773) said:
@theraptor456 said in [Maguire post match comments insanity?](/post/1464738) said:
Probably not the worst of our wide array of issues but Maguire mentioned "We had Daine Laurie, Adam Doueihi, Jimmy Tamou, Luke Garner, James Roberts, there's a number of senior players that add to what we need to do. We've got a number of players that with those names can steer a strong team around”.

Correct me if I’m wrong but James Roberts has been 18th man for at least 2 or 3 of the last 4 weeks and our coach is saying his absence is part of what cost us the match??? Who selects the team?

More early mad Monday madness


Interesting view.. so Tamou, Garner, Roberts, Mybe were missing today. Individually and collectively they were all part of all the disaster games this year . Sorry I have never seen any of them lead the team around on the field although I am sure they are great leaders at training

That's what his supporters say too.
"we had players out... Too many kids in"
It's been happening all year tho.

I like Madge but this can't continue

Yep. If they are going to get rid of him, best do it now and let him sort out his future and at least give us a pre season with our future.

I like Madge, I know members here seem to believe that certain players can always be totally absolved of shambolic performances but there are two constants in the team that have the same deficiencies that they have had for nearly the last decade they have been playing. They should be following Maguire out the door.

I am even willing to be flexible on morals now and say go and get Flanagan just to end this madness. Go and tell a Storm fan they're cheats and they will tell you that they can't hear you complaining from the top of the ladder and the sound of their overstuffed trophy cabinet straining.

The new coach should be given full control to remove any one he doesn't want on the roster too.

If we gat Flanagan as coach, we'll also get Flanagan Jr as halfback. That would be worse than what we have now.

That would be the only stipulation I would write in.
 
Tbh, Madge is probably more distraught that he’s ruined his reputation by taking the job. This place is a coaches graveyard after all. The Bermuda Triangle. Coaches come here and disappear. How ironic the only coach who had us on the right track over the last decade is the one most despised.
 
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