Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis

This may seem Like an odd question, but I was wondering what benefits are attached to being a debenture holder of Wests Ashfield? I mean apart from putting a holder under consideration for a seat on the board? Is the return fixed? Or variable? What is the monetary value for the holder? Is the return based on profit?
 
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

The board seem to allowing the coaching staff to do their thing.

It comes down to players and coaching staff or in with the next ones
 
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

Would they sell though?
 
@harvey said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347056) said:
Chairman Lee needs to stay away from the media. He is fast becoming an embarrassment.

Sorry if you don’t get it.
He is the chairman and major benefactor of WT club.
People were complaining when previous chair sat on his hands and didn’t say Booo!
He should be expected to be the spokesperson for the club and is well entitled to do so.
 
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

But ...But....But it is making a profit ...isn't that the be all and end all

When push comes to shove the roster is still the problem and has been since 2013 .....I won't say 2012 because many considered us Premiership favourites
 
@tony-soprano said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347268) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.
**> The board seem to allowing the coaching staff to do their thing.**

It comes down to players and coaching staff or in with the next ones

And so they should, they spend probably millions of dollars, for all this to work.
The only KPI is success.
I believe the players are not coached to play like they do, we just need to keep trying players till we find the ones who actually want to have a go.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347276) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

But ...But....But it is making a profit ...isn't that the be all and end all

When push comes to shove the roster is still the problem and has been since 2013 .....I won't say 2012 because many considered us Premiership favourites

Better to be making a profit than not.
I believe we are a player or 3 away from becoming the next power house in the comp, to be fair, it is taking a bit longer than expected.?
 
@tigerwest said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347289) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347276) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

But ...But....But it is making a profit ...isn't that the be all and end all

When push comes to shove the roster is still the problem and has been since 2013 .....I won't say 2012 because many considered us Premiership favourites

Better to be making a profit than not.
I believe we are a player or 3 away from becoming the next power house in the comp, to be fair, it is taking a bit longer than expected.?

No we aren't .....

From yesterday's game ..how many would you keep to win a premiership ......2 ...maybe 3

If their were more they would have dug in at HT and fought it to the very end ....Manly bombed a few chances they should have put close to 60 on us
 
Michael Chammas has an agenda against Madge I reckon. He's got two articles ready to roll immediately after the match: lead article on Sunday, analysis on Monday. Nothing about the individual player performances, only commentary on the coach.
 
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347238) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

You'd only need interested in the license. Buying the actual club would be cheapish atm.


WT is member owned just like other successful clubs, Panthers, Raiders, Roosters and a few others. While it may present an issue in some cases, ownership is not the real big’n if the organisational structure is sound. Clubs generally don’t publicly display their OC, which is odd? The Broncos are more transparent due to regulatory circumstances, but the others not so. They operate more like a church, with a different kind of religion. The successful clubs seem to have a kind of military precision aura about them.
 
@jirskyr said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347295) said:
Michael Chammas has an agenda against Madge I reckon. He's got two articles ready to roll immediately after the match: lead article on Sunday, analysis on Monday. Nothing about the individual player performances, only commentary on the coach.


He is probably being fed agenda by one of the untouchable "white ants" on the board.
 
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347297) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347238) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

You'd only need interested in the license. Buying the actual club would be cheapish atm.


WT is member owned just like other successful clubs, Panthers, Raiders, Roosters and a few others. While it may present an issue in some cases, ownership is not the real big’n if the organisational structure is sound. Clubs generally don’t publicly display their OC, which is odd? The Broncos are more transparent due to regulatory circumstances, but the others not so. They operate more like a church, with a different kind of religion. The successful clubs seem to have a kind of military precision aura about them.

We're not really member owned. You can't become a member then vote on anything.
 
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347308) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347297) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347238) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

You'd only need interested in the license. Buying the actual club would be cheapish atm.


WT is member owned just like other successful clubs, Panthers, Raiders, Roosters and a few others. While it may present an issue in some cases, ownership is not the real big’n if the organisational structure is sound. Clubs generally don’t publicly display their OC, which is odd? The Broncos are more transparent due to regulatory circumstances, but the others not so. They operate more like a church, with a different kind of religion. The successful clubs seem to have a kind of military precision aura about them.

We're not really member owned. You can't become a member then vote on anything.

If the club wasn’t a “not for profit” then the ATO would call them to account..hahaha
 
@jirskyr said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347295) said:
Michael Chammas has an agenda against Madge I reckon. He's got two articles ready to roll immediately after the match: lead article on Sunday, analysis on Monday. Nothing about the individual player performances, only commentary on the coach.

And it could be getting fed from inside the club .....wouldn't be the 1st time .....
 
@jirskyr said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347295) said:
Michael Chammas has an agenda against Madge I reckon. He's got two articles ready to roll immediately after the match: lead article on Sunday, analysis on Monday. Nothing about the individual player performances, only commentary on the coach.

Maybe so, but he is stating statistics which are factual, and the effort or lack there of is fairly obvious, so Madge should be held to account, and shown the door
 
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347317) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347308) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347297) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347238) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

You'd only need interested in the license. Buying the actual club would be cheapish atm.


WT is member owned just like other successful clubs, Panthers, Raiders, Roosters and a few others. While it may present an issue in some cases, ownership is not the real big’n if the organisational structure is sound. Clubs generally don’t publicly display their OC, which is odd? The Broncos are more transparent due to regulatory circumstances, but the others not so. They operate more like a church, with a different kind of religion. The successful clubs seem to have a kind of military precision aura about them.

We're not really member owned. You can't become a member then vote on anything.

If the club wasn’t a “not for profit” then the ATO would call them to account..hahaha

Lol, true.
Maybe that cousins be next year's cliche.


2022 Wests Tigers - Not for profit.
 
@851 said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347329) said:
@jirskyr said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347295) said:
Michael Chammas has an agenda against Madge I reckon. He's got two articles ready to roll immediately after the match: lead article on Sunday, analysis on Monday. Nothing about the individual player performances, only commentary on the coach.

Maybe so, but he is stating statistics which are factual, and the effort or lack there of is fairly obvious, so Madge should be held to account, and shown the door

No, no. The major thing we can take away from yesterday is that a journo has an agenda.
Otherwise everything else is going great.
 
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347331) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347317) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347308) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347297) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347238) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

You'd only need interested in the license. Buying the actual club would be cheapish atm.


WT is member owned just like other successful clubs, Panthers, Raiders, Roosters and a few others. While it may present an issue in some cases, ownership is not the real big’n if the organisational structure is sound. Clubs generally don’t publicly display their OC, which is odd? The Broncos are more transparent due to regulatory circumstances, but the others not so. They operate more like a church, with a different kind of religion. The successful clubs seem to have a kind of military precision aura about them.

We're not really member owned. You can't become a member then vote on anything.

If the club wasn’t a “not for profit” then the ATO would call them to account..hahaha

Lol, true.
Maybe that cousins be next year's cliche.


2022 Wests Tigers - Not for profit.

Prefer 2022 Wests Tigers : Up For Sale
 
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347334) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347331) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347317) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347308) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347297) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347238) said:
@willow said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347208) said:
@jadtiger said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347199) said:
@newtown said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347034) said:
But we’re not getting the results that we all want. It’s the entire club’s responsibility, and we’re one-in, all-in.”


Somebody should tell that to the 2 mongrels on the board that are excellent at backstabbing and protecting their own interests.Undoubtedly the leaks are coming from at least 1 of them and unfortunately they are seemingly "untouchable" themselves.
That particular cancer still needs to be removed from the club and i dont care who they are

I have no doubt the board is part of the problem, but how do you solve that aspect? Private ownership might be the way to go, but no one would seriously consider buying this club at the moment.

You'd only need interested in the license. Buying the actual club would be cheapish atm.


WT is member owned just like other successful clubs, Panthers, Raiders, Roosters and a few others. While it may present an issue in some cases, ownership is not the real big’n if the organisational structure is sound. Clubs generally don’t publicly display their OC, which is odd? The Broncos are more transparent due to regulatory circumstances, but the others not so. They operate more like a church, with a different kind of religion. The successful clubs seem to have a kind of military precision aura about them.

We're not really member owned. You can't become a member then vote on anything.

If the club wasn’t a “not for profit” then the ATO would call them to account..hahaha

Lol, true.
Maybe that cousins be next year's cliche.


2022 Wests Tigers - Not for profit.

Prefer 2022 Wests Tigers : Up For Sale

Free to a good home.
 
@851 said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347329) said:
@jirskyr said in [Maguire's job not on the line: Lee Hagipantelis](/post/1347295) said:
Michael Chammas has an agenda against Madge I reckon. He's got two articles ready to roll immediately after the match: lead article on Sunday, analysis on Monday. Nothing about the individual player performances, only commentary on the coach.

Maybe so, but he is stating statistics which are factual, and the effort or lack there of is fairly obvious, so Madge should be held to account, and shown the door

I'm just curious, is Chammas about to also write articles about crisis meetings at Sharks, at Raiders, at the Warriors, at Bulldogs, at Broncos? Do Cowboys and Broncos get a pass-mark because their coach is only 7 rounds in? Do Sharks get a pass mark because they burned down 2021 in order to sign their preferred assistant for 2022? Do Bulldogs get a pass mark because they finally won a match?
 
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