Marina Go

[Newtown]


This is Col deflecting away from the fact hes been well and truly owned in this thread already

I think he has been trumped.

 

[magpiecol]


This is Col deflecting away from the fact hes been well and truly owned in this thread already

I think he has been trumped.

Owned? I think not. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. However, if you call someone a "nut job" without giving any reason for this, well!! It says more about you than him. In my opinion.

:deadhorse:

 

[innsaneink]


This is Col deflecting away from the fact hes been well and truly owned in this thread already

I think he has been trumped.

Owned? I think not. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. However, if you call someone a "nut job" without giving any reason for this, well!! It says more about you than him. In my opinion.

:deadhorse:

Calling him a nut job isnt the debate here

His bigotry, bullying and belittling of women is what we mentioned and gave examples of, and you dismissed.
Owned.

 

[TrueTiger]

Her tenure has been a complete and utter failure. She knows nothing about league and her incompetance is illustrated with her backing of one of the worst and unliked coaches in NRL history. Please Go and take JT with you.

RBG,first of all,JT hasn't completed his contract yet,if we make the 8 then he has done a fantastic job with a very young roster,secondly Marina Go is a very smart and respected business woman who stands her ground and has cut all the garbage out of the front office…

You obviously have enjoyed being a fan,supporter or member of this club putting up with the garbage that has gone on for years,now that there are hard decisions to be made it seems to unsettle you somewhat... You are entitled to your opinion,thank God your not in charge of the club,and if you are,then we will go backwards once again.....cheers..

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Can you tell us what she has cut out of the front office, TT
Not having a go at you, but I'd be interested to know what she's done . The most memorable thing I've heard her say was a general complaint about how she was being treated by the media and Rugby League in general, without backing anything up at all.
It was difficult to understand what she was talking about.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Look, with all the people calling for the coach to be sacked for so long, you have to give the leaders of the club credit for sticking by him and holding firm. At the very least, they are bringing integrity back to the club. Without integrity, very few players of note are going to consider us as a viable option when the time comes that we're recruiting unless the opportunities elsewhere are worse than that which we provide. Integrity should be the foundation of this place. From there, we build.

 

[TrueTiger]

Can you tell us what she has cut out of the front office, TT
Not having a go at you, but I'd be interested to know what she's done . The most memorable thing I've heard her say was a general complaint about how she was being treated by the media and Rugby League in general, without backing anything up at all.
It was difficult to understand what she was talking about.

GCT,I was referring to the media leaks and the rest of the bs that was evident nearly every week with the old board and crew,the JT and RF stuff should be shut down as well …we seem to be a more proffessionally run business than previous years...that was my main point,and M.Go is the one at the helm..

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Can you tell us what she has cut out of the front office, TT
Not having a go at you, but I'd be interested to know what she's done . The most memorable thing I've heard her say was a general complaint about how she was being treated by the media and Rugby League in general, without backing anything up at all.
It was difficult to understand what she was talking about.

GCT,I was referring to the media leaks and the rest of the bs that was evident nearly every week with the old board and crew,the JT and RF stuff should be shut down as well …we seem to be a more proffessionally run business than previous years...that was my main point,and M.Go is the one at the helm..

I agree , we seem to be better run than before, but Pascoe , IMO , deserves a fair bit ot the credit for that, He'd be more involved in that sort of stuff than She would.
But as far as leaks go. If posters can be believed, ( and one seems to be possibly legit)
There are much bigger leaks , with more detail than I've ever seen before.
I thought that in the interview that I mentioned , she was very unprofessional, it sounded like she was on a sympathy trip, not an interview, it rambled a fair bit.

 

[TrueTiger]

Can you tell us what she has cut out of the front office, TT
Not having a go at you, but I'd be interested to know what she's done . The most memorable thing I've heard her say was a general complaint about how she was being treated by the media and Rugby League in general, without backing anything up at all.
It was difficult to understand what she was talking about.

GCT,I was referring to the media leaks and the rest of the bs that was evident nearly every week with the old board and crew,the JT and RF stuff should be shut down as well …we seem to be a more proffessionally run business than previous years...that was my main point,and M.Go is the one at the helm..

I agree , we seem to be better run than before, but Pascoe , IMO , deserves a fair bit ot the credit for that, He'd be more involved in that sort of stuff than She would.
But as far as leaks go. If posters can be believed, ( and one seems to be possibly legit)
There are much bigger leaks , with more detail than I've ever seen before.
I thought that in the interview that I mentioned , she was very unprofessional, it sounded like she was on a sympathy trip, not an interview, it rambled a fair bit.

GCT,I can't comment on her interview as I have not viewed it.I do agree with you that Pascoe has definitely made a huge difference to this club,we have needed stability in this place for quite awhile and just in my opinion the whole admin are heading in the right direction to gain that stability.We have all said many times "Rome wasn't built in a day" building a great club,team and culture are high on their agenda albeit with some hurdles along the way,as much as people bag the hell out of Taylor his job was always going to be difficult considering what he had to work with and had a very young roster of key players that needed to learn NRL,to me it seems that they are starting to understand what it takes to be competitive at this level week in and week out,I honestly think Taylor means well with everything he does,he just tries way to hard at times and comes across as incompetent,when realistically he could be a good coach given more time in NRL..
All in all,personally I'm happy with the way things are going,not always ideal,but heading in the right direction…cheers mate...

 

[Tigermama]


This is Col deflecting away from the fact hes been well and truly owned in this thread already

I think he has been trumped.

Owned? I think not. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. However, if you call someone a "nut job" without giving any reason for this, well!! It says more about you than him. In my opinion.

:deadhorse:

My reasons were clear enough in my post. I have no inclination to keep repeating myself for your benefit. :unamused:

 

[southerntiger]

Look, with all the people calling for the coach to be sacked for so long, you have to give the leaders of the club credit for sticking by him and holding firm. At the very least, they are bringing integrity back to the club. Without integrity, very few players of note are going to consider us as a viable option when the time comes that we're recruiting unless the opportunities elsewhere are worse than that which we provide. Integrity should be the foundation of this place. From there, we build.

I think its a recognition that our problems go deeper than the coach and they want to make cultural and structural changes. They want a coach who has the fortitude and backbone willing to make those changes. That is something that Taylor has displayed in spades, whether his detractors will admit it or not.

When the new board was appointed, they made it clear that success wouldn't come over night. Here we are two years laters. Whilst it doesn't feel like we have improved, I have no doubt we have. We are still performing around the same way we were under Potter without big name players - Blair, Bodene, Tapau - sucking up our cap. The club is slowly starting to get the balance right.

I see Taylor as an interim coach. Someone who has come in and is willing to make the necessary changes. The next coach will benefit from it.

 

[tig_prmz]

I see Taylor as an interim coach. Someone who has come in and is willing to make the necessary changes. The next coach will benefit from it.

i thought that was potter. if JT doesn't get the sack this year, will the next coach be in the same boat?

i believe in patience and maybe going backwards to go forwards. but sometimes you just gotta take a leap and go forwards. we haven't made the finals since 2012\. that's 4 years and counting. granted 2012 was a failure, but we were building something positive from 2013 onwards and apparently we are still building?

im not anti JT or anti board or anti farah. i just think that it's been long enough and we need to put wins on the board (something we've been doing recently). the NRL side needs to start winning consistently. there are other people who can look after the development and junior WT teams, the first grade coach and stafff right now need to concentrate on winning.

 

[cqtiger]

I see Taylor as an interim coach. Someone who has come in and is willing to make the necessary changes. The next coach will benefit from it.

i thought that was potter. if JT doesn't get the sack this year, will the next coach be in the same boat?

i believe in patience and maybe going backwards to go forwards. but sometimes you just gotta take a leap and go forwards. we haven't made the finals since 2012\. that's 4 years and counting. granted 2012 was a failure, but we were building something positive from 2013 onwards and apparently we are still building?

im not anti JT or anti board or anti farah. i just think that it's been long enough and we need to put wins on the board (something we've been doing recently). the NRL side needs to start winning consistently. there are other people who can look after the development and junior WT teams, the first grade coach and stafff right now need to concentrate on winning.

Tig_. I think that every coach is "interim" until our team are either regular finalists or win it. I see Brad Arthur and Shane Flannigan improving their teams each year but look at the personnel they have added. I also see Trent Robinson this year without key players and suddenly it's a different competition.

Is JT interim? Who knows right now. What I do know is that Marina Go and the board have stood by JT because instead if giving him key personnel, we have actually lost key players.

I give JT a 'B' score for what we have done this year. I don't think we will make the 8 this year and if we don't bring in decent players, we won't make it next year.

I give this board an 'A' compared to previous boards. The same for Pascoe.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

I see Taylor as an interim coach. Someone who has come in and is willing to make the necessary changes. The next coach will benefit from it.

i thought that was potter. if JT doesn't get the sack this year, will the next coach be in the same boat?

i believe in patience and maybe going backwards to go forwards. but sometimes you just gotta take a leap and go forwards. we haven't made the finals since 2012\. that's 4 years and counting. granted 2012 was a failure, but we were building something positive from 2013 onwards and apparently we are still building?

im not anti JT or anti board or anti farah. i just think that it's been long enough and we need to put wins on the board (something we've been doing recently). the NRL side needs to start winning consistently. there are other people who can look after the development and junior WT teams, the first grade coach and stafff right now need to concentrate on winning.

I think the club has learnt from the sacking of Potter. That was a stupid call and done again, it leaves us with no credibility. Turning things around isn't done by continually sacking people that you put your trust in. Wasn't that long ago I wanted Taylor to go as well, but I was looking at it through a frustrated fans eyes. If you look at it from a business perspective, it's madness to continually sack coaches.

 

[tig_prmz]

we didn't sack potter. we didn't renew his contract.. not a major difference but it still does make a difference. the circumstances around the renewal also meant that re-signing potter would've been a massive risk. im still not 100% sure if it was the right or wrong decision in hindsight tbh.

no matter what eyes you look at.. we have a less than 40% (correct me if im wrong) winning record since 2012\. that's not good enough. right now, we're in form.. let's make a massive push towards the 8.

 

[southerntiger]

I see Taylor as an interim coach. Someone who has come in and is willing to make the necessary changes. The next coach will benefit from it.

i thought that was potter. if JT doesn't get the sack this year, will the next coach be in the same boat?

i believe in patience and maybe going backwards to go forwards. but sometimes you just gotta take a leap and go forwards. we haven't made the finals since 2012\. that's 4 years and counting. granted 2012 was a failure, but we were building something positive from 2013 onwards and apparently we are still building?

im not anti JT or anti board or anti farah. i just think that it's been long enough and we need to put wins on the board (something we've been doing recently). the NRL side needs to start winning consistently. there are other people who can look after the development and junior WT teams, the first grade coach and stafff right now need to concentrate on winning.

Tig_. I think that every coach is "interim" until our team are either regular finalists or win it. I see Brad Arthur and Shane Flannigan improving their teams each year but look at the personnel they have added. I also see Trent Robinson this year without key players and suddenly it's a different competition.

Brad Arthur did it with a side that cheated the cap. The Tigers instead have been doing everything to stay within the cap, exactly why Taylor has not been able to buy any players apart from fringe first graders and a guy playing State Cup.

The board is, rightly or wrongly, clearly happy to bear some poor years in the belief it will be lead to better years in the future, perhaps when Brooks and Moses have matured as footballers. Whether this strategy works, we will have to wait and see.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

we didn't sack potter. we didn't renew his contract.. not a major difference but it still does make a difference. the circumstances around the renewal also meant that re-signing potter would've been a massive risk. im still not 100% sure if it was the right or wrong decision in hindsight tbh.

no matter what eyes you look at.. we have a less than 40% (correct me if im wrong) winning record since 2012\. that's not good enough. right now, we're in form.. let's make a massive push towards the 8.

Everyone knows, although some just won't admit that life was made very tough for Potter by those above him. Everything was running beautifully until our CEO at the time decided it was a good idea to bring in Brian Smith for his opinion. Why? To look for some reason to get rid of him. I believe that Mayer only ever wanted to bring down this club. He never had our best interests at heart. Placing obstacles in a coaches path when we were well in contention for finals is the lowest of low acts as far as I'm concerned. From the Brian Smith appraisal we've not recovered.
So say what you like about him not being sacked, but rather, not renewed, whatever you call it, it was an appalling period. The only losers out of it were Potter, the players and fans and probably sponsors. Winners - probably Mayer and Smith. If there were any other winners then I'm happy to hear of them.

With Mayer gone, we seem more stable. But more time needed. Again, sacking JT would undo a lot of what's been gained in terms of that stability. Lets see out the contract but assess where we're at halfway through next year. Hopefully things are looking better than this year.

 

[coopy]

Does anyone think JT could be moved on even if we make the 8 this year? It would be a big call but i think it's a distinct possibility.

I suppose it would be Bucket's decision but would also be interesting from a board perspective who have backed him up to now.

 

[sideline_eye]

Marina Go has said many times, on behalf of the board, that JT will see out his contract with their full support. Yes, I know some will say that this is a death sentence for a coach but I believe her, given the amount of times she has said it. Wouldn't it be good if we could all just move on accepting that JT will be the coach until the end of 2017 at least and focus on supporting the coach and team. Am I dreaming? Probably.

 

[innsaneink]

Marina Go has said many times, on behalf of the board, that JT will see out his contract with their full support. Yes, I know some will say that this is a death sentence for a coach but I believe her, given the amount of times she has said it. Wouldn't it be good if we could all just move on accepting that JT will be the coach until the end of 2017 at least and focus on supporting the coach and team. Am I dreaming? Probably.

Thats how Im seeing it, and all Im trying to do.
Others it seems would prefer to bash their heads against a wall, arguing about something thats unlikely to happen :brick: